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Republicans critical of Navy's 'Great Green Fleet', $26 a gallon fuel
FoxNews ^ | uly 02, 2012 | FoxNews

Posted on 07/02/2012 7:02:59 PM PDT by Ron C.

The Navy is steaming ahead with an initiative to power ships with biofuel, despite criticism the so-called “green fuel” costs nearly seven times more than conventional fuel.

This month marks the first time the Navy is using biofuel in an operational setting -- sending five ships to a multi-nation exercise off the coast of Hawaii.

A Navy official told FoxNews.com on Monday that sailing the so-called “Great Green Fleet” this month on the 50-50 blend of alternative and conventional fuel is part of Navy Secretary Ray Mabus’ plan to have half the Navy fleet on alternative fuel by 2020.

The spokesman also confirmed the fuel -- which does not require engine modifications -- costs $26 a gallon compared to $3.60 a gallon for conventional fuel.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fuel; idiocy
Seems to me our nation is ever further into madness as liberals gain control of our military.
1 posted on 07/02/2012 7:03:12 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.

They’d do better with wind power. With modern materials, sails could really work! Naturally you’d have Diesel-electric or a nuke for backup, but sail power is green!


2 posted on 07/02/2012 7:07:06 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Ron C.

It’s expensive being “green”.


3 posted on 07/02/2012 7:08:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare is only the beginning. It's all downhill from here.)
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To: DBrow

Or better yet, water power.

Put the ship in the water. Turn off the engines and just let the waves take you where you end up.

Now, that’s cheap.


4 posted on 07/02/2012 7:11:22 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: DBrow
its not even available for use yet

Amazing the people in this country are so unform about what this administration does daily

5 posted on 07/02/2012 7:11:22 PM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: Ron C.

How to recognize the new Navy:

- Paying $26 a gallon for waste products that gum up the turbines

- Homos happily humping in the hammocks

- Half the females are lesbian and most of the others are pregnant

- Navy Day celebration is out. Homo Day Celebration is in


6 posted on 07/02/2012 7:12:51 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: Ron C.
Where do these friggin idiots come from? God save us all.
7 posted on 07/02/2012 7:15:27 PM PDT by deweyfrank
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To: Ron C.

It’s total insanity to buy or use even one gallon of that crap!!!!


8 posted on 07/02/2012 7:17:18 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Ron C.

How did such utter stupidity take control of our entire government?


9 posted on 07/02/2012 7:18:46 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: DBrow
Better all ships go nuclear - best 'green' power there is. Hey, it's natural!

It comes out of the ground - just have to tweak the uranium a bit.

10 posted on 07/02/2012 7:18:49 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: FlingWingFlyer
expensive yes - and madness, in this case.

ships run best on what we get out of the ground - fuel oil... and it is the cheapest!

11 posted on 07/02/2012 7:20:52 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: DBrow
Sails for a carrier? LOL

Now that would be a sight - can you imagine landing planes between 15 to 20 thousand sails? ~crooked grin~

12 posted on 07/02/2012 7:23:14 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.

H.R. 750: Defending America’s Affordable Energy and Jobs Act

Get your congressman to support it. While not something that addresses this exact issue it will strip the EPA of the power to regulate.

We need to go after the greentards the same way they act on us. On all fronts, all the time.


13 posted on 07/02/2012 7:25:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Ron C.

Sun Tzu is ROTFLOL in his grave.


14 posted on 07/02/2012 7:26:06 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: xzins
"...let the waves take you where you end up."

I did that once - two Waves - lots of fun!

15 posted on 07/02/2012 7:26:19 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: deweyfrank

“these friggin idiots” come straight out of our lefty colleges, and apparently our Naval academies.


16 posted on 07/02/2012 7:28:29 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.
58 years of zero reactor accidents in the US Navy that continues to this day.

Mostly thanks to Admiral Rickover and the safety measures that he put into place for the running of these reactors and the powerful emphasis he placed on personnel integrity.

17 posted on 07/02/2012 7:33:23 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: Ron C.
Is Ray Mabus, Nostradamus’ MABUS? Of the final Anti-Christ? Just sayin...
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread764963/pg1
19 posted on 07/02/2012 7:35:44 PM PDT by ExxonPatrolUs (Gov The People, Buy The People, Bore The People.)
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To: Ron C.

The navy really doesn’t have to go anywhere. If you wait long enough, your enemies will come to you . . .


20 posted on 07/02/2012 7:43:24 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: xzins; DBrow

How about taxpayers with oars?


21 posted on 07/02/2012 7:47:10 PM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: Ron C.

>>> costs $26 a gallon compared to $3.60 a gallon for conventional fuel. <<<

It’s the Obama way.


22 posted on 07/02/2012 7:49:23 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Ron C.

Hi Ron,

It is going on in every branch. When Congress kept them from spending extra money to get LEED Green design and construction ratings above Silver rating, the Pentegon simply started wasting money on Net Zero requirements which means designing buildings with full utility conections and capacities but also designing in large Photovoltaic arrays and other renewable resources at extra cost.


23 posted on 07/02/2012 7:58:56 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: AFreeBird

Is $26/gal for the 50-50 mix or for the green input?


24 posted on 07/02/2012 8:13:54 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Ron C.

What is the name of the buddy of “The Divine One” that received acceptance of his bid to provide the fuel? How much money did he give to “The Divine One?”


25 posted on 07/02/2012 8:19:39 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Ron C.

They want soldiers to pay for their health care when they risk life and limb to protect them by giving the excuse of cutting spending....

No more words for this kind of trash behavior from Washington or the sick, sorry, pentagon.


26 posted on 07/02/2012 8:21:22 PM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: Ron C.

Sofa King Stupid.


27 posted on 07/02/2012 8:25:36 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Ron C.

If this bio-fuel is like others it is inefficient and dirty.

I would hate to be a deck seaman right now. Inefficient fuel means more unreps, more back breaking labor to fuel up.


28 posted on 07/02/2012 8:32:55 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: Ron C.

On an earlier thread someone noted that the fuel is being bought from a company with close ties to the White House:

http://www.redstatereport.com/2012/03/obama-forces-navy-to-use-16gallon-biofuel/


29 posted on 07/02/2012 9:20:03 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
[The Navy has recently purchased 450,000 gallons of biofuel at $16/gallon, from an Obama friend T.J. Glauthier. Glauthier is a strategic adviser to Solazyme which manufactures the expensive biofuel. The fuel was purchased at four times the regular price the Navy would have spent if the Navy where allowed to use it’s normal fossil fuel. So while Obama is shutting down parts of the military to save money, he is forcing a part of the military to spend four times the money it would have normally spent, all for the benefit of an Obama friend. . . .This isn’t the first time Solazyme has been given money from Obama. In 2009, Solazyme was awarded $21.8 million from the Stimulus. So Solazyme is living completely off the American taxpayer thanks to Obama, who has to make the mafia jealous with his ability to launder billions of other people’s money (our money) into the hands of his friends.]

http://www.redstatereport.com/2012/03/obama-forces-navy-to-use-16gallon-biofuel/

30 posted on 07/02/2012 9:26:02 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Navy Takes Biofuels Campaign Into Uncharted Waters
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/archive/2011/January/Pages/NavyTakesBiofuelsIntoUnchartedWaters.aspx

Since 2006, the Defense Logistics Agency has procured more than 36 million gallons of ethanol-and-petroleum blends for the military. The Navy in September ordered an additional 150,000 gallons of algae-based fuel from San Francisco company Solazyme. The new agreement is seven times the size of the initial 20,000-gallon contract awarded last year. The Navy is paying big bucks for these fuels.

The service consumes an average of 1.2 billion gallons of petroleum each year at a cost of $3 billion — about $2.50 per gallon. The service paid Solazyme $8.5 million to provide just 20,000 gallons of algae-based fuel —

$425 per gallon.

At that rate, it would cost the Navy some $142.8 billion for the 8 million barrels of biofuel needed to meet its 2020 goal.

Camelina-based fuel is a bit cheaper but still more expensive than petroleum. In September 2009 the DLA’s defense energy support center paid Montana’s Sustainable Oils $2.7 million for 40,000 gallons of camelina-based fuel. That comes to about $67.50 per gallon.


31 posted on 07/02/2012 9:38:51 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Thanks for the link.

I used to live in Cape Canaveral on the edge of Kennedy Space Center. When I saw your name it brought back memories.


32 posted on 07/02/2012 10:19:05 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Ron C.
Did every Oil Well in the World suddenly run dry?

Funny how cost is not an issue when you're paying with someone Else’s money.

It's the Obama way.

33 posted on 07/02/2012 10:36:50 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Godfathercare, either your Freedom or your Money will be on that Insurance Policy.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

From that distance you could probably smell the hydrazine in the morning!


34 posted on 07/03/2012 5:13:29 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: scooby321
Amazing the people in this country are so unform about what this administration does daily

And yesterday BO granted more waivers to states to not comply with the duly passed, No child left behind bill. I don't agree with the bill myself, but now he is telling states that they need not comply with that congressional law, Barack has spoken!

35 posted on 07/03/2012 7:08:50 AM PDT by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
[From that distance you could probably smell the hydrazine in the morning!]

Sometimes hydrazine would escape and the wind would carry it across a populated area where allegedly it would cause a cluster of temporary respiratory problems. Most people didn't know. And even if they did, it was a time when patriotism eclipsed legal opportunism.

36 posted on 07/03/2012 9:10:44 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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