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Elizabeth Warren: My Aunt Bea Was White Before She Was Indian
Breitbart ^ | 7/2/12 | Michael Patrick Leahy

Posted on 07/02/2012 9:49:19 PM PDT by Nachum

Cherokee genealogist Twila Barnes has caught Elizabeth Warren in yet another lie about her false claims of Native American heritage.

When Elizabeth Warren's "Aunt Bea," Bess A. Reed Veneck, died in 1999 at the age of 98, Ms. Warren was listed as the "informant" on the death certificate that identified Aunt Bea as White. Line 14 of the death certificate allowed the informant to specificy the race of the deceased. Presented with the option of selecting "American Indian," "Black," or "White," Ms. Warren chose to identify Aunt Bea's race as White.

Thirteen years later, Ms. Warren was telling a different story about Aunt Bea's heritage. Television cameras caught her spinning this tale in early May, 2012:

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aunt; bea; elizabeth; elizabethwarren; fauxcahontas; lieawatha; warren
When will America say it has enough of the "progressives"?
1 posted on 07/02/2012 9:49:28 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

When will America say it has enough of the “progressives”?
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Not until WE stop allowing ‘them’ to pay their promises off with OUR money.


2 posted on 07/02/2012 9:53:56 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "Hopefully this administration is a "bad dream" - think the Newhart show.")
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To: xrmusn
And our children's money. 40% of their promises are being funded with money that our children and grandchildren will have to repay. With interest.

But of course no woman would want to vote against those who are primarily responsible for placing her child into debt servitude.

3 posted on 07/02/2012 10:07:32 PM PDT by p. henry
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To: Nachum
=?
4 posted on 07/02/2012 10:19:48 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Nachum

Has anyone considered Elizabeth Warren may have serious mental issues? She gives every indication of it.


5 posted on 07/02/2012 10:26:13 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Nachum
I would say she brings same standard of truth to aspects of her life as any nonresident of Oklahoma claiming nonexistent heritage would—safety and distance first and foremost. In the land of Longfellow the Hiawathan, a good story goes a long way. Every time she puts her tongue on that subject, she's counting coup points. Maybe unlike Will Rogers, she never met a man she ever liked. Who knows?
6 posted on 07/03/2012 1:05:06 AM PDT by Scram1
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To: Nachum

If we can get some of Dad’s DNA (or a brother, uncle etc.) looks like with XY sex combinations (male) the Y chromosome does not, over time, do a lot of recombining and so Chief Speaking Bull’s ancestral migration history is preserved. Something tells me ‘North America’ would not be amongst the results.

If someone can scour and verify what’s below ... I’ll pay the 349 for the FT-DNA test!

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From Yahoo Answers

“Scientists can use genetic variations, such as single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs), on the Y chromosome as markers of human ancestry and migration.
It is very effective and the best companies will retest until they get a conclusive result.”

More ....

Testing of this type cannot be done in a doctor’s office or a hospital, it has to be done in specialist laboratories.

DNA testing cannot show which country, or ethnicity in recent history someone was from, and obviously it cannot give you a name.
A DNA test can show, approximately, your ancestors trail through the world since the evolution of your first ancestor, because you are female a test of your Mtdna will not show any paternal line at all, only the possible origin of your mother, her mother, your great grandmother etc., etc. You do not carry your father’s Y-DNA and, either he, your brother, father’s brother, or your father’s father, or a male cousin on your father’s side, would need to be tested to show your father’s genetic origins, it cannot show which tribe someone was a member of, only that Native American is, or is not, in your father’s lineage.

Below is a reply I have given to a similar previous question, dna cannot tell you which country you originated in, only the probable area, or areas of the world your ancient ancestors passed through during their evolution.
Human cells contain 23 pairs of chromosomes: 22 pairs of autosomes, and one pair of sex chromosomes. Females carry a pair of X chromosomes that can swap, or recombine, similar regions of DNA during meiosis. However, males harbor one X chromosome and one Y chromosome, and significant recombination between these dissimilar sex chromosomes does not occur. Therefore, the non-recombining region of the Y chromosome (NRY) remains largely unchanged over many generations, directly passed from father to son, son to grandson, and so on, along with genetic variations in the NRY that may be present. Scientists can use genetic variations, such as single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs), on the Y chromosome as markers of human ancestry and migration.
It is very effective and the best companies will retest until they get a conclusive result.
If you have, say, just the first 12 markers tested($149 with FTDNA), that will give an indication of where you originated, the more markers you test on, the more information is gained ( for mtdna, your suggested geographic origin and your maternal deep ancestral ethnic origin, $129 with FTDNA) if you test on the maximumum of, say 67 markers ($349 with FTDNA), it is possible then to find a match to someone else carrying your own, or a different surname, and to prove a link where perhaps no “paper trail” exists. It can therefore pinpoint a place in which your ancestors probably lived in recent history but DNA does not, obviously,
have a surname attached to it, surnames have only been used for around 700 years and of course your DNA originated 10s of thousands of years ago. You can also have a SNP test which will help show the migratory pattern of your ancient ancestors, having said that, you can join a Surname project (e.g. with FTDNA) and receive discounted prices on your tests.
I recommend that you make yourself aware of the various tests available, and the costs with each testing company.
Plus, check out what is available to you after you have tested.
I used Family Tree DNA ,they were the first in the field (founded in 1999), have the largest data base, and do the testing for the National Geographic’s Genome project, their “after sales” is excellent and I consider they are the best, but you have to make your own decision on that.
http://www.familytreedna.org


7 posted on 07/03/2012 1:05:29 AM PDT by skeama (On what day did God create Barack Obama, and couldn't He have rested on that day.)
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To: MasterGunner01

Liberalism IS a mental disorder.


8 posted on 07/03/2012 1:35:38 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Nachum

She’s not running for office in America — she’s running in Massachusetts. No lie from a leftist is too outrageous to swallow there.


9 posted on 07/03/2012 1:45:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: MasterGunner01

Has anyone considered Elizabeth Warren may have serious mental issues? She gives every indication of it.

Well duh, she’s a Democrat. That goes without saying.


10 posted on 07/03/2012 3:16:22 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Nachum

This Warren bimbo actually sent me campaign literature, asking for a donation. And I’m in Tennessee!! How the heck I got on a liberal’s mailing list, I’ll never know...


11 posted on 07/03/2012 3:30:13 AM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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To: MasterGunner01
Has anyone considered Elizabeth Warren may have serious mental issues?

She should share a room at the asylum with Nancy Pelosi.

12 posted on 07/03/2012 3:46:37 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil)
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To: Cincinatus

The only thing that matters to a Massachusetts voter is whether she genuflects to the Kennedy’s and is in favor of Socialism.

They could care less if she is a fake Indian.

I have a feeling she will beat our Fake Republican.


13 posted on 07/03/2012 4:32:27 AM PDT by Venturer
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Funny. Two fakes trying to outfake the other.


14 posted on 07/03/2012 4:33:58 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom is a myth anymore. We were duped.)
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To: meyer
Probably something you said here.

≤}B^)

15 posted on 07/03/2012 4:49:09 AM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: Nachum

There’s a simple explanation here. Liz answered “white” on the form, because Aunt Bea was mostly white. Liz answered “Native American” on the Harvard form because there was perhaps a rumor of one drop of Indian blood. They weren’t looking for that one drop on Aunt Bea’s death certificate.

Liz is an ass.


16 posted on 07/03/2012 5:32:48 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: skeama
I have been aware of these DNA-testing companies for a long time but have not been able to figure out if I would gain any useful information by paying for a test.

I know the exact village in Europe where my father's ancestors lived for hundreds of years. I know the name of the town in Germany where my mother's mother's mother's mother was born in 1834. That's the mitochondrial DNA line. There are parts of my mother's ancestry that I'm not sure of (includes English, Irish, Scots-Irish, and probably "Pennsylvania Dutch") but I don't know the exact proportions and I don't know if the test would be able to tell me anything new.

17 posted on 07/03/2012 9:23:19 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Nachum

See, she lied about Aunt Bea, and then Andy Griffith died.


18 posted on 07/03/2012 10:37:23 AM PDT by exit82
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To: Verginius Rufus

This could be a dupe response - server sent me a bad request message, meaning it puked in some fashion, so might not have gotten posted.
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Got it. I just wonder if a 100% lack of anything pointing to North America could do it. I really haven’t looked to deeply into the article, method, but my sense is that if some around the Chief didn’t like her that much, and there are many I’m sure, they could manage to get a sample off a brother/father/uncle ... something in the male line.

Then there is the question of whether the test works virtually w/o fail on a 1/32 line.

It’s pretty funny if you live in MA like I do. I think we and Chicago are the 2 most corrupt / willing to accept corruption cities in the US - the difference is that we are bumbling-corrupt (see mayor ‘mumbles’ Menino) where as Chicago is sleek and professional, more like well run mafia.

Anyway - great 4th to you.


19 posted on 07/03/2012 7:20:26 PM PDT by skeama (On what day did God create Barack Obama, and couldn't He have rested on that day.)
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