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The Truth. It Hurts.
Red State ^ | July 3, 2012 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 07/03/2012 5:32:48 AM PDT by IbJensen

Mitch McConnell is in the headlines again for saying the odds are against those wanting repeal of Obamacare. “[I]t’s a lot harder to undo something than it is to stop it in the first place,” he said in part.

For once, let’s give McConnell the benefit of the doubt and suggest he is talking about the present Congress, not the next Congress, though in actual context he seems to mean both. Let’s be charitable.

The truth is, I don’t expect Republicans in Congress to be fully committed to repeal next year even if they have Mitt Romney in the White House, a Republican Senate, and hold the House.

We’ve played this game before. And yes, we are being played.

We are being played by a group of Republican leaders who have consistently shown in the past few years to lack the testicular fortitude to do what’s right when it counts — they are the John Robertses of Congress.

Republicans, at this point, are all about drawing lines in the sand against the Democrats only to wipe them away with their feet.

The debt ceiling? Cave.

The continuing resolution? Cave.

Republicans have excelled at theater and not much else. “Oh, pshaw!” you say. “They only control one house of one branch of the federal government. What could they do?”

In February, Mitch McConnell had the option of bringing Jim DeMint’s amendment to the floor of the Senate to force another vote on repeal. He wouldn’t. Why? He didn’t want to make Harry Reid mad.

When the blowback was so great after that news leaked, Americans for Limited Government and other groups demanded McConnell get in line or get out of the way. He folded like a cheap suit and in so doing promised March would be a month of fighting about repeal.

Nothing happened.

So now McConnell says he will force the issue before the election and then make repeal of Obamacare priority number one if the GOP takes back the Senate, but the odds are against full repeal. This is code for Republican leaders, timid as they are and driven by polling, keeping parts of Obamacare instead of doing full repeal and starting over.

The truth is many Republicans like parts of Obamacare. The truth is a number of Senate Republicans were willing to vote back in December of 2009 that the individual mandate was unconstitutional while keeping their names on healthcare legislation by Senator Bob Bennett that had an individual mandate.

The truth is with Republican leaders like we have in both Houses, who needs the Democrats? It was not just Democrats responsible for $16 trillion in debt. Even now, Eric Cantor, Mitch McConnell and the rest are trying to find ways to weasel out of paying down the debt and bring back earmarks.

When Republicans won’t fight on their ground, they just won’t fight. John Boehner has to have David Winston, a pollster, tell him up from down, and Mitch McConnell only does WWE fights — lots of theater, but a predetermined outcome negotiated in advance with Harry Reid that can get both bases fired up while doing as little to advance freedom as possible. Maybe Linda McMahon in the Senate will do McConnell some good.

There is a truth that hurts Mitch McConnell. The truth is, Jim DeMint has now been joined by Ron Johnson, Mike Lee, Rand Paul, and others. The truth is they see what must be done. Send them men like Ted Cruz to help force McConnell’s hand.

And then there is this. Jim DeMint is parting ways with the Senate Conservatives Fund. In its place will be a Super PAC called Senate Conservatives Action. Unlike DeMint’s prior effort, this Super PAC can take unlimited money. Conservatives with cash can pony up and force Mitch McConnell’s hand.

Let’s be very clear here — voting to repeal Obamacare is not enough. Repealing it is.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: createthirdparty; republicrats; rinos; traitors
The problem is…we have a lot of progressive Republicans, and many of them are steering the GOP ship. These spineless politicians are no better than the Democrats. Actually…they are worse because they fly home to their “home states” when it’s election time…they say all the right things, convincing their constituents that they are true conservatives. They then outspend real conservatives and get re-elected…then they fly back to their real home–Washington DC–high five their buddies across the aisle, and revel in their incumbancy until the next election season.

The primary goal of far too many Republicans is to “get re-elected.” They don’t have the balls to go back and attempt to implement any real change in Washington. Instead, they crouch down, attempting to stay off the mainstream media radar so they can avoid any criticism that might hurt their next bid for re-election.

It’s time to throw these bums out with the Democrats…and elect real leaders whose primary goal is to fix the mess…even if it costs them re-election. This is why the Tea Party movement must continue to play a significant role in the process. They seem to be the only thing keeping any of the establishment GOP honest.

1 posted on 07/03/2012 5:32:57 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen
The problem is…we have a lot of progressive Republicans, and many of them are steering the GOP ship

The REAL problem is that far too many of our "fellow citizens" embrace the Entitlement State, including many nominal "conservatives." Our job is not just for the coming election -- it is a lifetime task to wean America off the federal money tit. It is a job for a generation. And we have no choice but to try, lest we lose everything.

2 posted on 07/03/2012 5:37:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: IbJensen

The Democrat’s beloved Dred Scot was reversed. It took a civil war, but the decision was undone.

The Democrat’s beloved Plessy v. Ferguson was undone. It took a great deal of effort, but the decision was undone.

The Democrat’s beloved ObamaCare v. Freedom will be undone. It may take extreme measures, but the decision will be undone. The question is how much this particular encroachment on freedom by the big government party will cost before decent people are able to reverse it.


3 posted on 07/03/2012 5:42:28 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A boy becomes a man when a man is needed - John Steinbeck)
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To: IbJensen

Nothing but spineless RINOs. God help us.


4 posted on 07/03/2012 5:43:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Cincinatus

The problem is that this article IS THE TRUTH and it damned sure does hurt.

Conservatives are not only being fought tooth and nail by the Democrats, but by the progressives (Read fake Republicans)in our own party.

Mitch McConnell is useless, Boehner is Useless, McCain, Graham,Hatch, Collins etc., etc. ,etc., all useless.

Even if the Republicans win the White House and both sides of the Congress we still face progressives, and not Conservatives.


5 posted on 07/03/2012 5:43:57 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Pollster1

This “law” will not stand, no matter what McConnell might say.


6 posted on 07/03/2012 5:44:41 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: IbJensen
My Republican state rep is already making noises that we "need to keep the things people like," like no exclusion for preexisting conditions and you can keep your kids on your policy forever.

He obviously doesn't understand what insurance is.

7 posted on 07/03/2012 5:45:15 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What do we need to do to repeal and replace McConnell and Boner?


8 posted on 07/03/2012 5:57:45 AM PDT by privatedrive
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To: Cincinatus
Our job is not just for the coming election -- it is a lifetime task to wean America off the federal money tit. It is a job for a generation. And we have no choice but to try, lest we lose everything.

No weaning required.

Economic collapse will get the job done swiftly and pitilessly.

9 posted on 07/03/2012 5:58:23 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: IbJensen

Don’t go all wobbly on us Mitch. You didn’t have the numbers back then to stop it. The voters are going to give you the numbers in November -— and, by God, you had better man up and get the job done.


10 posted on 07/03/2012 5:59:24 AM PDT by Amagi (Chief Justice John Roberts is a traitorous weasel.)
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To: IbJensen

Good post. Right on the mark IMO.


11 posted on 07/03/2012 6:03:58 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: BlatherNaut
No weaning required. Economic collapse will get the job done swiftly and pitilessly.

I believe that I said "lest we lose everything." And "economic collapse" entails exactly that.

12 posted on 07/03/2012 6:07:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Cincinatus

McConnell stumbled and had no answer when questioned from the weekend show media circus talking heads asking what the GOP alternative to Obamatax is.

At least Rino McConnell could have said that the alternative would be the Ryan plan. No wonder Obama is on track to have another four years to destroy the U.S.


13 posted on 07/03/2012 6:17:33 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: IbJensen

In the words of Obi Won Kenobe..”Then the enemy has already won”

Instead of covering their lily-whites, get out there and fight. Wusses is too kind a term.

Enough of the tut-tutting and Queensbury rules of politics...take off the damn gloves.


14 posted on 07/03/2012 6:19:20 AM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: IbJensen
MEMO to jelly-fish, liguini-spine, Elitist, wuss, RINO, McConnell:

"NO IT AIN'T, MORON,"

....not if you remove your gonads from their secure place in that locked box and you decide you reallllly want to!

Its as simple as......

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15 posted on 07/03/2012 6:24:54 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: Amagi

Well said.


16 posted on 07/03/2012 6:26:04 AM PDT by cbvanb
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To: IbJensen

Just to join the clarion call for conservative challengers to these wussies during primaries...
We only have ourselves to blame if the RINOs stay in power.


17 posted on 07/03/2012 6:28:16 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
like no exclusion for preexisting conditions

To me this is nearly as egregious as the mandate.

18 posted on 07/03/2012 6:30:57 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Travis McGee
Nothing but spineless RINOs. God help us.

Some of the worst:

Brown, Scott
Collins, Susan
Cornyn, John
Graham, Lindsey
Hatch, Orrin
McCain, John
Kyl, Jon
McConnell, Mitch
Murkowski, Lisa
Snow, Olympia

YEAH, and these are the same REPUBLI-TARDS that the HATE-ROMNEY/MORMONS clique argue would (if we choose to stay home and allow Dear Leader to be reelected).....wait for it....."Keep B. Hussein O'Bummer in check!"

RIGHT!!!!

19 posted on 07/03/2012 6:38:19 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: BlatherNaut
Economic collapse will get the job done swiftly and pitilessly.

And if world market turmoil proves insufficient to the task, then the massive tax increases that will go into effect on January 1, 2013 ought to do the trick. Especially so for those people who get their news from the mainstream media, for whom it may well come as a complete shock.

20 posted on 07/03/2012 6:41:42 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: BlatherNaut

Yep, it really matters not that 0bamacare is “the law of the land”. 0bama & the ‘rats could declare that you must be able to fart a wish-granting angel and get whatever you want - they can’t legislate non-reality.

The system is going to collapse, and those who are dependent on it will... simply, they will die.


21 posted on 07/03/2012 6:46:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: BlatherNaut

You are right and that is exactly what is going to happen whether we elect Mitt or not. These fools have no intention of cutting the size of govt and attempting to balance the budget.

If you are working on stocking up one year of food supplies just keep at it.


22 posted on 07/03/2012 7:21:39 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: MrB

The obvious answer to the question :What is the Republicans alternative to Obamacare?” is to answer :

FREEDOM!

But look at at all these mental giants like Mcconnell and Boehner try to come come up with something.. it’s so simple.
They need to replace Boehner he looks like a guy that I see at the country club half drunk all the time and looking for a golfing partner. Put that blond haired guy in there from S.C.


23 posted on 07/03/2012 7:22:24 AM PDT by DOGHEAD
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To: DOGHEAD
"But look at at all these mental giants like Mcconnell and Boehner try to come up with something"

What's going through their minds: "I've got to justify my role in this government by coming up with something the government can do." and "I know that siding with individual liberty is the right thing to do, but that does nothing to empower ME."

24 posted on 07/03/2012 7:26:58 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: IbJensen

“Mitch McConnell is in the headlines again for saying the odds are against those wanting repeal of Obamacare.”

Odds against? No it isn’t, Mitch. You just don’t want to do it. You don’t have the will. You RINOs love to moan and say you’re going to do this and that, but in the end—you never do. Because you’re part of the problem, part of the treason.


25 posted on 07/03/2012 7:29:34 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Attention Tea Party Members.

Find a true Conservative to run against this disgrace and Kentucky will have two GOOD senators.


26 posted on 07/03/2012 7:39:11 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: IbJensen
"The truth is many Republicans like parts of Obamacare. The truth is a number of Senate Republicans were willing to vote back in December of 2009 that the individual mandate was unconstitutional while keeping their names on healthcare legislation by Senator Bob Bennett that had an individual mandate."

The problem is...that Erick is a glass chewer and thusly his memory is faulty. Those bills were out there to flood the zone, and allow GOP talking heads, whoever was on point, to refer to a bill per talking point needs. Bennett's bill was an outlier and I don't recall it getting any traction whatsoever. The two the GOP put forth that just barely got any coverage were Coburn's SB1099 Patient's Choice Act, and McCrisis had his Health Tax Credit.

27 posted on 07/03/2012 8:22:50 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: StAnDeliver

You must admit that Republicrats have done nothing but add to the convolution of this ridiculous, evil political system that ignores the Constitution and the people who are supposed to be served by a truly representative government. Rather, this is one that has pushed, shoved, and squanderously spent towards achieving (in their small minds) the ‘utopia’* that the USSR would never come close to.

*-A huge government monster controlling all phases of the citizens’ existance.


28 posted on 07/03/2012 8:40:34 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: Venturer

This is why the Republican Party will go the way of the Whigs, and why I am now a member of the Constitution Party.


29 posted on 07/03/2012 8:44:56 AM PDT by oac1947
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To: IbJensen
One thing different is the hatred of Obamacare. I don't see how a GOP President, House and Senate could sit on this issue. People, angry people, will be keeping score.
30 posted on 07/03/2012 9:02:05 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
Your boy and his staff of fools are so busy giving the election away that voter turnout may turn out to be meaningless. Romney Campaign Declares Cease Fire on Health Care.
31 posted on 07/03/2012 9:02:47 AM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts once lead the American Revolution. Under Mitt Romney, it lead the demise.)
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To: IbJensen; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; NFHale

” Republicans, at this point, are all about drawing lines in the sand against the Democrats only to wipe them away with their feet.

The debt ceiling? Cave.

The continuing resolution? Cave.

Republicans have excelled at theater and not much else. “Oh, pshaw!” you say. “They only control one house of one branch of the federal government. What could they do?”

In February, Mitch McConnell had the option of bringing Jim DeMint’s amendment to the floor of the Senate to force another vote on repeal. He wouldn’t. Why? He didn’t want to make Harry Reid mad. “

There you are.


32 posted on 07/03/2012 1:35:39 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: IbJensen
We are being played by a group of Republican leaders who have consistently shown in the past few years to lack the testicular fortitude to do what’s right when it counts,...

Now where does such an attitude come from? /s

33 posted on 07/03/2012 1:38:04 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; IbJensen; DoughtyOne; NFHale; Gilbo_3
RE :” Republicans, at this point, are all about drawing lines in the sand against the Democrats only to wipe them away with their feet.
....
The debt ceiling? Cave.
The continuing resolution? Cave.

The lines are in chalk and it's raining.

34 posted on 07/03/2012 1:46:27 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us. (it's Obam-ney Care))
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To: IbJensen

Fascism is now all the rage in Amerika, the repubican leadership could have have stopped this bill in congress and did nothing, I have always said they wanted it to pass that’s why they helped it pass in the first place.

This bill will never be repealed, there is only one way tyrants can be removed from office.


35 posted on 07/03/2012 2:29:24 PM PDT by stockpirate (No longer proud to be an American! SCOTUS is just as corrupt as congress. IMPEACH ROBERTS!)
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To: stockpirate

They could not have stopped the bill in Congress and they did not help pass it.


36 posted on 07/03/2012 2:44:01 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: IbJensen
There is a truth that hurts Mitch McConnell. The truth is, Jim DeMint has now been joined by Ron Johnson, Mike Lee, Rand Paul, and others. The truth is they see what must be done. Send them men like Ted Cruz to help force McConnell’s hand.

That should have been the topic of the article and the call to action...not tucking that away in the end. The article is a defeatist, woe is us the sky is falling and there's nothing we can do about it now or ever mentality that is downright depressing to read and pretty much says "give up - it's over...no hope. Just forget it."

37 posted on 07/03/2012 2:46:09 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

“They could not have stopped the bill in Congress and they did not help pass it.”

WRONG!

To make a party read a bill in to the record in both houses of congress all that is required is for ONE (1) person to object to it not being read in to the record. The republican leadership told ALL members to NOT force a reading of the health care bill.

That is how they aided the democrats in the passage of this bill.

It also takes to memebers of the minority party to vote yea to get the bill out of committee, McConnel put the two biggest liberal republicans on the committee and let them vote the bill out of committee.


38 posted on 07/03/2012 3:54:21 PM PDT by stockpirate (No longer proud to be an American! SCOTUS is just as corrupt as congress. IMPEACH ROBERTS!)
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To: stockpirate

Reading of the bill could not have stopped passage. It does not require two members of the minority party to vote a bill out of committee.


39 posted on 07/03/2012 4:12:24 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: stockpirate
To make a party read a bill in to the record in both houses of congress all that is required is for ONE (1) person to object to it not being read in to the record. The republican leadership told ALL members to NOT force a reading of the health care bill.

While long, the bill was not infinite in length. This would ultimately have had no effect on passage. The GOP did not have the numbers at the time.

It also takes to memebers of the minority party to vote yea to get the bill out of committee, McConnel put the two biggest liberal republicans on the committee and let them vote the bill out of committee.

No it does not - it takes a majority vote of the overall membership. I don't know where you got this from, but it is not accurate.

The reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act passed out of the Senate Judiciary Committee on Feb. 2 on a straight party-line vote. http://townhall.com/columnists/phyllisschlafly/2012/02/07/day_of_reckoning_for_violence_against_women_act/page/full/

Senate Committee Approves Health Care Bill By DAVID M. HERSZENHORN Voting on strict party lines, the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee approved a bill on Wednesday to revamp the nation’s health care system, as Democrats said that the legislation held the promise of more universal health coverage and more effective and affordable medical care while Republicans argued that the measure was unaffordable and would lead not to better care but to the denial of it. The committee vote was 13 to 10. The acting committee chairman, Senator Christopher J. Dodd, Democrat of Connecticut, had made clear from the start that his panel would bend little when it came to the top priorities of Senate Democrats and the Obama administration, including on a provision to create a government-run health insurance plan to compete with private insurers that Republicans insisted was a deal-breaker. In the end however, Republicans held their ranks...http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/senate-committee-approves-health-care-bill/

40 posted on 07/03/2012 4:47:49 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: stockpirate

Those pristine halls o Congress should explode into fisticuffs. Instead the Republirats continue to ‘reach across the aisle’ to gope te enemy in the spirit of bi-partisanship.

Their mealy-mouthed comments about replacing just a part of the disgrace known as Obamacare make honest, thinking Americans want to puke!


41 posted on 07/03/2012 6:32:24 PM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: SueRae
In the words of Obi Won Kenobe..”Then the enemy has already won”
With all due respect, I prefer the words of the great political philosopher, Pogo.


42 posted on 07/03/2012 6:54:40 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: privatedrive
"What do we need to do to repeal and replace McConnell and Boner? "

What about those black umbrellas?

43 posted on 07/03/2012 7:33:57 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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