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Inside Scientology’s strict Sea Org which Suri Cruise faced joining
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2168225/Beatings-sniper-nests-punishment-block-called-The-Ho ^ | 7/3 | daniel bates

Posted on 07/03/2012 9:21:54 AM PDT by RummyChick

It is Scientology's higher order where members pledge their allegiance for one billion years - and may have cost Tom Cruise his marriage.

Sending six-year-old Suri to the Sea Organisation, or Sea Org as it is known, is what is said to have been the final straw for Katie Holmes before she filed for divorce.

The group is run like a military clique from the Scientology Gold Base in California which has sniper-style nest bunker that overlooks the entire property.

Members are paid just $50 a week and banned from leaving their base or they are tracked down by a special team who used emotional pressure or physical force.

Former Scientology security chief Gary Morehead has claimed that he tracked down more than 100 Sea Org members who left in his 13 years on the job using what he called a ‘blow drill’, referring to the techniques he employed to hunt people down.

If Sea Org members try to leave they are also given a ‘freeloader tab’ which is a bill for all the work they have received, and can run into six figures.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cult; cults; katieholmes; multilevelmarketing; scientology; seaorg; sourcetitlenoturl; thetans; tomcruise; xenu
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the other part "'Beatings', sniper nests and a punishment block called ‘The Hole’:"

1 posted on 07/03/2012 9:21:57 AM PDT by RummyChick
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“The school which alarmed Holmes was the New Village Leadership Academy in Calabasa, California, which received $1.2million from Smith as a donation.

Though the school is secular, it does have ties to Scientology and uses ‘study technology’, which was created by Hubbard.”


2 posted on 07/03/2012 9:23:30 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

$50 a week? It’s gone up...


3 posted on 07/03/2012 9:24:13 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1259 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: RummyChick

Don’t Sea Org members have to dress like Dick Cavett in navy blazers and nautical caps?


4 posted on 07/03/2012 9:25:13 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (GHWB gave us Souter. W gave us Roberts. Can we risk Jeb in the White House?)
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To: RummyChick

Sounds like a cult.
Looks like a cult.
Acts like a cult.
Must be a duck...............


5 posted on 07/03/2012 9:25:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: RummyChick

My family is 100 percent against divorce. However in this case even I make an exception with Katie Holmes. Thank God she is getting away from Tom Cruise and his freakish religion.


6 posted on 07/03/2012 9:25:58 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: RummyChick

Thank God, I have a reactive mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVg52pARY5E


7 posted on 07/03/2012 9:31:10 AM PDT by oyez ( .Apparently The U.S. CONSTITUTION has been reduced to the consistency of quicksand.)
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To: napscoordinator

Yeah, but her’s and her daughter’s lives are going to be tough and dangerous for a long time to come. This outfit does not take well at all to defectors.


8 posted on 07/03/2012 9:32:02 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: RummyChick
members pledge their allegiance for one billion years

I was invited to join the Sea Org, too.

But I had a commitment for the year 312,445,212 that I just could not break. So I regretfully turned them down......

9 posted on 07/03/2012 9:34:22 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: RummyChick

10 posted on 07/03/2012 9:34:43 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: RummyChick

If the allegations of conduct are true the group should be suppressed.


11 posted on 07/03/2012 9:35:10 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: RummyChick
He bought several small ships and staffed them with a young crew of Scientologists and reportedly went looking for treasure he had hidden in a previous life.
The "young crew" wasn't too bright, were they?
12 posted on 07/03/2012 9:35:23 AM PDT by samtheman (The Trillion Dollar ObamaCareTax definitely is a tax; just ask the US Supreme Court.)
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To: RummyChick
This is nothing more than a cult with 3 piece suits. I know someone that joined up and they promised him the moon. He ended up cleaning bathrooms in Arizona
13 posted on 07/03/2012 9:35:32 AM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader believes in home schooling....Think about it.)
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To: RummyChick

Where is Janet Reno now that we need her?!


14 posted on 07/03/2012 9:35:57 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Da Bro' Gotsta Go!)
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To: RummyChick

I lived near the Scientology building in LA and had to deal extensively with the Sea Org folks on a Neighborhood Watch group I set up. They are very, very strange people. And I don’t mean that in a good way.


15 posted on 07/03/2012 9:37:18 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Janet Reno would not have bothered a group with lots of money, and a demonstrated ability to infiltrate government agencies which annoyed them.


16 posted on 07/03/2012 9:38:55 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: verga

They’re evil ... they prey on the gullible and the emotionally insecure (gee ... actors? Gullible and emotionally insecure??? Ya think?) ... if they didn’t dress up their idiocy in religious trappings, nobody would bat an eye at calling it fraud.


17 posted on 07/03/2012 9:38:55 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Clinton was too busy currying favor with travolta for Primary Colors. Sandy Berger briefed Travolta like a Senior Senator.


18 posted on 07/03/2012 9:40:32 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: ModelBreaker
I lived near the Scientology building in LA and had to deal extensively with the Sea Org folks on a Neighborhood Watch group I set up.

Well at least your neighborhood was protected from burglars and galactic overlord Xenu.

19 posted on 07/03/2012 9:42:10 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: RummyChick

As bad as Dasvid Koresh was, these guys have him beat by a million miles.

If anyone should raid a compound this one should be raided.


20 posted on 07/03/2012 9:42:38 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: ArrogantBustard
The German government considers it to be a multilevel marketing scam instead of a religion.
21 posted on 07/03/2012 9:43:00 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: RummyChick

And here I thought Justice John Roberts was crazy as a bedbug


22 posted on 07/03/2012 9:43:37 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: RummyChick

where is child protective services?


23 posted on 07/03/2012 9:44:22 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: RummyChick

Former Scientologist says Katie Holmes’ answers during church QA sessions will be used against her

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/07/03/former-scientologist-says-katie-holmes-answers-during-church-qa-sessions-will/

““I don’t know if they (Scientology) really ever let you leave. For Katie to have managed to come this far without anyone finding out, she would have been so unbelievably meticulous and careful,” said the source. “Scientology has an amazing spy network”


24 posted on 07/03/2012 9:45:19 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: dalebert

Australia’s ‘child labour camp’

February 14, 2012, 6:18 pm Bryan Seymour Today Tonight

In the middle of suburban Australia is a secret compound that’s labelled ‘degrading’ and ‘inhumane’, with allegations of keeping children prisoner.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/lifestyle/article/-/12905379/Australia-s-child-labour-camp/


25 posted on 07/03/2012 9:49:46 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Holmes is crazy, Cruise is a genius!
... /sarc
26 posted on 07/03/2012 9:51:32 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: evets

That is hilarious.

For those that don’t know...tomatoes scream when sliced ..so sayeth the E-meter.


27 posted on 07/03/2012 9:55:19 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: dennisw

“And here I thought Justice John Roberts was crazy as a bedbug”

___

Justice John (Benedict Arnold) rogers is crazy and a traitor to the Republic.


28 posted on 07/03/2012 10:02:24 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: RummyChick
Scientology is wack-A-doo for sure but that topic is just a red herring for this Cruise - Holmes thing. The media types are generating these stories to make it look like something sinister is going on. The main thing is that the 5 year contract Holmes had with Cruise is over. Cruise is super gay and this was a typical Hollywood "marriage".

Who knows if the child even even his? I wonder.

Watch what Holmes herself says. She won't bash Scientology and she won't bash Cruise. She will work to make them both look good. Watch for stories from her about what a non-gay stud Cruise was. Also expect Cruise to be hooking up with some other kinda famous actress who will gush that he is, of course, a non-gay stud. There will be another woman and a new contract.

It's all a farce. Just scripted drama. Like awhile back when Cher said she and Cruise had hooked up. That was totally bogus.

It's HOLLYWOOD!!!! Fake!

29 posted on 07/03/2012 10:06:56 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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I don’t know if they (Scientology) really ever let you leave.

After over a quarter century, they recently tracked me down and invited me to come back, saying all the problems of the 80's had been eliminated.

At least they promised they wouldn't put me back on the mailing list....

30 posted on 07/03/2012 10:07:35 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1259 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: KarlInOhio

“... and galactic overlord Xenu.”

I vaguely remember that name. Is he a good guy or a bad guy?

Hold it! Maybe he’s the guy with the twitch that passed out refreshments at the Neighborhood Watch mixer . . . ?


31 posted on 07/03/2012 10:08:12 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: RummyChick
A commitment for 1 billion years? I can't remember Doctor's appointments more than a month away.

Sorry, that's a little to much of a time commitment for me.

Not to mention the e-meter, engrams and every other whacko thing they believe. I think Cruz must be at the highest OT level they have and no doubt spent millions getting there. At that level, they're supposed to be able to leave their body (go external) control others by the way they look at them (tone postulates I believe they're called) and generaly have super powers.

This is testable, don't any of these folks check their abilities against the claims? No doubt, when you fail to be able to do what Sci claims, they're told they've still got thetans and are not fully clear so they need more classes and emeter sessions.

Oh yeah, the long time rumor is that during the emeter sessions, they videotape the questions and answers so if you decide to leave, they've got you.

There was an actor that I think was supposed to be OT5 and he had migraines and he thought, I'm an OT5, I shouldn't have migraines. He left them and went on a press tour against Sci. I think I found him:

Actor Jason Beghe quits Scientology

Look at how much it cost him in 'classes'.

I just read an article that Seinfeld was a Scientologist???

People in and out of Scientology, might surprise you.

I apologize for the source of the last article, who selects a name like they have for a column?

The picture of Travolta has him looking like Freddy Mercury when he was 'out' and I love Freddy Mercury's music, band and talent, although Travolta is extremely talented (747 certified owns a 707 and a Learjet type jet) but does he have to use the generic gay look from the 80's?

If you have money to waste, they have emeters on Ebay. There's one on there now signed by LRH for $25k!!!

32 posted on 07/03/2012 10:09:31 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: GraceG

This money grubbing cult is banned in Germany. All they care about is extracting money from naive newbie suckers to perpetuate their scam machine plus they destroy and blackmail homos like Cruise and Travolta


33 posted on 07/03/2012 10:09:41 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: RummyChick

Sounds like the RPF:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehabilitation_Project_Force


34 posted on 07/03/2012 10:10:45 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Wings cannot be redistributed, they can only be broken. ~ Oleg Atbashian (People's Cube))
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To: RummyChick

No gold and no sea. Other than a handful of people in one picture and a handful of cars total, it looks vacant.

No sympathy for Katie as she knew what she was getting into. Only sympathy for Suri for having dingbat parents.


35 posted on 07/03/2012 10:12:56 AM PDT by bgill
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To: RummyChick

I meet Scientologists EVERY DAY here in Hollywood.

White, wearing blue pants, in white polos and they have the biggest buildings in Hollywood aside from the major studios. I did hear the rumors from my sources that every white person joined because they were the minority in L.A. and wanted to be in the same demographic.

In other words, they’re F’d up more than the fag mafia in W. Hollywood.


36 posted on 07/03/2012 10:14:29 AM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

“Don’t Sea Org members have to dress like Dick Cavett in navy blazers and nautical caps?”

See my past post. The navy blazers and pants are standard as they are numerous (thousands) here in Hollywood alone. I work in the ‘biz’ and Cruise has filled up his production company stack full of these moonbats. The truth is you are either meeting 1) a fag liberal white or 2) scientologist white and crazy here in Hollywood. You just need to keep a straight face when you go into meetings as they “heavily” recruit you.


37 posted on 07/03/2012 10:18:59 AM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: RummyChick
When I was in the Marines, I used to keep track of how many days I had to serve until my enlistment was over. I was discharged 27 years ago.

Good thing I never joined Scientology back in 1981. Because even today, I'd still have over 999,999,968 years to go!

38 posted on 07/03/2012 10:22:57 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: max americana

and where does kabbalah fit into this crowd of nutjobs?

Sad that Hollywood seems to be so hostile to Christians and observant Jews, and the vastly overpaid screen phonies have to seek spiritual succor in pseudo religions


39 posted on 07/03/2012 10:25:18 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: RummyChick
Former Scientologist says Katie Holmes’ answers during church QA sessions will be used against her

Same as with all these judges who claim no one has standing on eligibility cases and quite possibly Roberts' ObamaCare flip flop, if you're threatened then go public. Scream it from the top of the tallest building and make the talkshow rounds. Katie has enough of her own money, unless she gave it to the "church", to live comfortably. Wonder if she can get the ex-wives to spill what they know. Tom is bound to have more than one skeleton in his, uh, closet.

40 posted on 07/03/2012 10:26:43 AM PDT by bgill
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To: wideawake
I am generally suspicious of government attempts to define what is and what is not a legitimate religion.

In this case, I believe that the German government is correct.

41 posted on 07/03/2012 10:30:29 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: silverleaf

There’s a kabbalah office close by, and they also have their share of loose screws but their influence has waned right after Madonna dumped them.

Yes, this is a place of evil. The upside is, you become battle-hardened and you have to outsmart them as liberals are brain-dead maggots. The only way they have influence in this town is because liberals do services with other libtards, that’s why they have a choke hold in the industry.


42 posted on 07/03/2012 10:31:00 AM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: ArrogantBustard; GQuagmire
Quahog?


43 posted on 07/03/2012 10:37:03 AM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

It does look like they found a warehouse of old 1970 Delta airline uniforms.

44 posted on 07/03/2012 10:45:29 AM PDT by bgill
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To: dennisw

Where is Janet Reno and his tanks when we ACTUALLY need him?


45 posted on 07/03/2012 10:54:57 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: ModelBreaker
“... and galactic overlord Xenu.”

I vaguely remember that name. Is he a good guy or a bad guy?

Bad guy according to the sciencefictionologists, so I give a hearty "Hail, Xenu!"

46 posted on 07/03/2012 11:04:17 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: null and void

They found you?
Time for the plan then.


47 posted on 07/03/2012 11:09:05 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I agree...

There is a fine line, because once Government becomes involved, they can use that power to intimidate and threaten legitimate faiths.

But when a “religion” has multiple, credible accounts of bullying, intimidation, kidnapping, and threatening, it should be raided and investigated like any corporate entity.


48 posted on 07/03/2012 11:12:51 AM PDT by Heavyrunner (Socialize this.)
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To: RummyChick
That MIG really screwed up Cougar; it must have really screwed up Maverick also.
49 posted on 07/03/2012 11:17:25 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("The writing is on the wall - Unions are screwed. reformist2 10:04 PM #27")
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To: Darksheare
Time for the plan then.

Not just yet...

50 posted on 07/03/2012 11:26:45 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1259 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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