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Allen West questions Romney team
Polutico ^ | Tuesday July 3, 2012

Posted on 07/03/2012 1:20:57 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

Rep. Allen West suggested late Monday that Mitt Romney re-evaluate his campaign advisers, hours after top Romney aide Eric Fehrnstrom said on TV that the individual mandate of President Barack Obama’s health care law is not a tax.

“It’s a tax,” the Florida Republican told Greta Van Susteren of Fox News. “I think that the governor probably needs to look at who he has within his circle of advisers, and probably get … them to provide the right type of counsel and advice.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alanwest; obamacare; romney; romney4dnc; romney4obama; romney4obamacare; romney4romneycare; weaknesses
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1 posted on 07/03/2012 1:21:08 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike
I agree w/Col. West.

Lot's of folks are calling on Romeny to re-evaluate his team. Even Establishment types like Fred Barnes (on today's Laura Ingraham show) are telling Romney to get serious and get tough with a new team.

2 posted on 07/03/2012 1:24:59 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Bigtigermike

I am confused now. If West says it is a tax, then he is disagreeing with Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, and Alito. Why are we getting bogged down in this minutiae?

Tax or penalty it is bad. We need to communcate this.


3 posted on 07/03/2012 1:27:27 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Bigtigermike

Romney should follow his OWN counsel. He should do anything to discredit Obama. I have serious doubts about this idiot that I am forced to vote for.


4 posted on 07/03/2012 1:29:30 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: New Jersey Realist

Mr. RomneyCARE has ALWAYS defended Obama.
From the missing BC, to TARP,
to heling al Qaeda, MITT ROMNEY has been
Obama’s biggest supporter.

Team Romney waged a drawn out attack on Gov. Palin
on the eve of Election 2008 for the One.


5 posted on 07/03/2012 1:32:08 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Bigtigermike

How can GOPers that are just business guys compete with the polish of Hollywood?

What was Reagan’s line of work again?


6 posted on 07/03/2012 1:32:45 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: Bigtigermike

The only reason to call this a tax is to make the democrats squirm. It has been declared a tax by a majority of the SCOTUS as they contort themselves, like Olga Korbut, trying to justify a monetary penalty for not buying a product from a business. There are plenty of other tax hikes hidden in Obamacare for everybody, whether they buy healthcare coverage or not.


7 posted on 07/03/2012 1:32:57 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Diogenesis

Who should we support as an alternative to Obama?


8 posted on 07/03/2012 1:34:06 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: Jane Long

And Michael Savage called on Romney to do it months ago .


9 posted on 07/03/2012 1:34:16 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: Bigtigermike

Ferhnstrom or whatever his name is should go, and Romney should admit he made a mistake with Romneycare - he was a governor, was tying to help the people, it turned out badly, people are losing coverage, he sees the error of his ways, Obamacare is just as bad, etc etc etc - then move on.......


10 posted on 07/03/2012 1:34:44 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Bigtigermike
When West either retracts or refines his support for “justice for Trayvon*", then I’ll pay him mind.

To date, he has not redacted, redefined, or said "you-got-it-wrong-cracker-this-is-what-I-really-said".

* Copyright 2012 by Sybrina Fulton, all rights reserved.

11 posted on 07/03/2012 1:34:54 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: Bigtigermike

Did West just move to the front of Romney’s ‘no way in heck’ VP list?


12 posted on 07/03/2012 1:35:44 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic ( (#withNewt))
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To: Bigtigermike

I’m tired of it...it seems its more and more like a choice between Obama and Obamalite...


13 posted on 07/03/2012 1:37:59 PM PDT by montomike (Politics should be about service and not a lucrative, money-making opportunity!)
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To: Perdogg

As Mark Levin said yesterday it doesn’t really matter whether it is a tax, a penalty, or a cucumber, it is wrong for this country and we need to drive that point home.


14 posted on 07/03/2012 1:39:28 PM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: Perdogg
Tax or penalty it is bad. We need to communcate this.

Exactly!

The only message coming from the GOP needs to be "Repeal and Replace with a Free-Market Approach".

Sadly, with Mitt Romney clinging to HIS Individual Mandate approach to fixing this problem, we will be getting more of the same from his "Replacement".

And please, no mention of RomneyCare being a States Rights issue.

Socialism, whether applied at the Federal or State level, is still Socialism and is still Evil.
15 posted on 07/03/2012 1:41:23 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: Okieshooter

100% agree. If it is ruled a tax, then it can be destroyed as one. But I am sticking with Levin and the court conservatives.


16 posted on 07/03/2012 1:42:35 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Bigtigermike
Col. West's comments throughout the interview were right on target. Romney's team needs to seize the moment for sounding a clear trumpet on behalf of freedom for individuals versus the tyranny and slavery offered by the redistributionist-in-chief.

Obama, Pelosi and Reid deceived "the People" in order to accomplish a power grab called "affordable health care." They continue to deceive by refusing to call a tax a tax, and the opposing candidate's representative says his boss agrees with them?

Unbelievable!

17 posted on 07/03/2012 1:44:00 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: SoConPubbie

I am not going to argue about socialism, I agree. The free market approach is the portability across Statelines.


18 posted on 07/03/2012 1:44:48 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: SoConPubbie
The only message coming from the GOP needs to be "Repeal and Replace with a Free-Market Approach".

You are half right.

The only message coming from the GOP needs to be "Repeal."

19 posted on 07/03/2012 1:44:51 PM PDT by itsahoot (That Coup d'├ętat we had in 08, It is now complete, with unlimited power.)
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To: New Jersey Realist

No kiddin...


20 posted on 07/03/2012 1:50:48 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Bigtigermike

I find it mildly amusing that anyone actually thinks that milquetoast Romney is inclined to offer a stiff fight on this, or anything else.


21 posted on 07/03/2012 1:50:48 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Perdogg
If West says it is a tax, then he is disagreeing with Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, and Alito."

You are partly right. He is disagreeing with the dissenters. Here is what they said: "The joint dissenters argue that we cannot uphold §5000A as a tax because Congress did not “frame” it as such. Post, at 17. In effect, they contend that even if the Constitution permits Congress to do exactly what we interpret this statute to do, the law must be struck down because Congress used the wrong labels."

The problem is that it is now, officially a tax. It has been named as such by judicial fiat in the majority opinion. Roberts (and his liberal cohorts) went way outside the lines of even judicial activism to label it a tax (despite the fact that Congress failed to do so) and therefore find it constitutional.

So West is right, too. It is a tax. And the only reason Romney and his aides cannot bring themselves to utter the word is because it negatively reflects on Romney's own trip down the road to socialized medicine.

But call it what you want. Tax or not, healthcare is a non-starter for Romney's campaign. He does not have the cojones to admit he was wrong. And all the bluster about repealing it on the first day of his presidency is just that, bluster. He would not have the power alone, and it is becoming clear that he will not have the support in the Senate either, as McConnell continues to weasel his way out of fighting to repeal.

22 posted on 07/03/2012 1:50:48 PM PDT by newheart (At what point does policy become treason?)
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To: itsahoot
You are half right.

The only message coming from the GOP needs to be "Repeal."


I can accept that.
23 posted on 07/03/2012 1:53:51 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: Perdogg
I am not going to argue about socialism, I agree. The free market approach is the portability across Statelines.

Once again, I agree completely.
24 posted on 07/03/2012 1:54:41 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: Timber Rattler

The only fight in him is the one he has with conservatives and even then its conducted through surrogates.


25 posted on 07/03/2012 1:55:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Bigtigermike

Romney’s team, eh?


26 posted on 07/03/2012 2:02:14 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: NoLibZone
Who should we support as an alternative to Obama?

Write in Mickey Mouse...That would be better than going through a Romney Presidency that will be a bigger disaster than either Bush Presidency and lead to a Democratic congress and Democratic President. We're screwed for another eight years if Romney is elected.

You can't advance conservatism by voting for liberal Republicans. Liberal Republicans, duh, advancement liberalism. Then, Democrats take over and advance more liberalism. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

After two failed Bush Presidency, you'd think more conservatives would catch on. Not enough have.

27 posted on 07/03/2012 2:13:51 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: New Jersey Realist
I have serious doubts about this idiot that I am forced to vote for.

Why on earth would you vote for a man that is going to betray you and conservatives when he gets into office? That makes NO sense. And, yes, eight years of someone more liberal and untrustworthy than George W. Bush IS worse that four more years of Obama. Worse because his election will result in Democrats taking over Congress and taking the White House back. Going through a repeat of what happened in 2006 and 2008 is a lot worse than four years of a lame-duck President facing a backlash from voters.

The mentality that electing RINOs make things better has to stop if there is to be any hope of the nation.

28 posted on 07/03/2012 2:23:10 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: New Jersey Realist
I have serious doubts about this idiot that I am forced to vote for.

You stole my words exactly!

29 posted on 07/03/2012 2:28:14 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: Bigtigermike

It’s a TAX!Not only that,but it’s a TAX for NOT doing something!!What’s next?A TAX for NOT getting out of bed??


30 posted on 07/03/2012 2:28:32 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: Bigtigermike

Outside of Mr. West, the GOP has no idea what has happened.

It isn’t a tax, or a penalty, it is quite simply

The murder of freedom.

We are all slaves.

That is what happened.


31 posted on 07/03/2012 2:41:42 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Perdogg

Calling it a tax allows for reconciliation to reverse it. A “penalty” is not reversible through reconciliation. My understanding.


32 posted on 07/03/2012 2:50:17 PM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: Diogenesis
Team Romney waged a drawn out attack on Gov. Palin on the eve of Election 2008 for the One.

As it stands now, one of two men in this world is going to be POTUS January 20th., 2013

Who do you prefer?

33 posted on 07/03/2012 3:00:29 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Kazan

There will be no repeal. McConnell made that clear today.

Romney has been silent on repeal, but for saying he will “act” on repeal. Acting for repeal, and voting to repeal have nothing to do with actually repealing the law.

We need to hear the escape words.

It was Rupert Murdoch yesterday who first lost interest in Romney’s chances against Obamamao, for lack of sound and fury, and in need of pros on his campaign team.

Romney has been missing in action on all the landmark judicial decisions, etc.


34 posted on 07/03/2012 3:05:25 PM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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To: Perdogg

We need to stop arguing about the tax/penalty question.

It’s nothing but a distraction.

The main point is that for some unfathomable reason, Roberts decided to uphold the law.

West should concentrate now on helping Romney get elected, not sniping at his campaign.

It’s puzzling to me why we, on this conservative forum, root around for everything negative about Romney when we should be galvanizing support for him.

He’s done nothing wrong in this campaign.

Tax or fee, the Obamacare bill must be defeated and Obama certainly won’t do it.


35 posted on 07/03/2012 3:13:31 PM PDT by altura
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To: Jane Long

West for VP


36 posted on 07/03/2012 3:15:17 PM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: loveliberty2
Romney's team needs to seize the moment for sounding a clear trumpet on behalf of freedom for individuals

Dream on -- I'm in MA, and AFAIK Romney has never remotely come out on the side of individual freedom. He's a manager and he intends to manage!

37 posted on 07/03/2012 3:20:21 PM PDT by maryz
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To: NoLibZone

Colonel West....if not, at the very least, VP!


38 posted on 07/03/2012 3:40:03 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Bigtigermike

I am really ticked off at Romney & Company. Problem is, I have to vote for him. He is just a carbon copy of John McCain, weak from head to toe against America destroyer, Barack Hussein Obama!!! Obama, IMHO needs be be attacked and destroyed every single day. He is not a nice fellow. He is an enemy of the state, our United States of America. He is the Devil, he is Hitler II.

Romney, conservative America is on fire now against Obama, and...you and your wife are playing footsie on a Jet SkI. Your butt...and hers should be on the campaign trail on the 4th of July, not goofing off on some stupid lake. Obama is killing the country....and you, Mitch McConnell, numerous other RINOS are playing the KIng’s Emglish with traitor Obama and the Democrat Party. Mitt....Get With It....or, get out and let a real American take on this America hater, Obama!!! End of story!!!


39 posted on 07/03/2012 3:45:08 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (is all for nughtMy only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Jane Long

The Republican Convention is not until August 27. We have time to organize a challenge on the convention floor. Palin/West 2012.


40 posted on 07/03/2012 3:58:32 PM PDT by rem_mitchell
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“As it stands now, one of two men in this world is going to be POTUS January 20th., 2013...”
_____________-

No. Neither the the Dems nor the GOP have a candidate. That decision is made at the convention. Do we watch this jet crash into a building or do we attempt to force our way into the cockpit. I say, “Let’s Roll”!


41 posted on 07/03/2012 3:58:45 PM PDT by rem_mitchell
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To: altura

I agree with you.


42 posted on 07/03/2012 4:04:46 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: rem_mitchell

Did you ask Palin if she wanted to run?


43 posted on 07/03/2012 4:06:00 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: loveliberty2
Romney's team needs to seize the moment for sounding a clear trumpet on behalf of freedom for individuals versus the tyranny and slavery offered by the redistributionist-in-chief.

Nails it. This is but a moment, and if Romney fails to seize it before it slips away, he's going down in defeat no matter how hard he tries to make up for it later. It's that important. And the fact that it is a tax, not a penalty or a cucumber, makes it a worthy club with which to beat the Democraps over the head. "Penalty" just doesn't have the power as the word "tax."

44 posted on 07/03/2012 4:06:56 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: RitaOK
The court ruled it as a tax, therefore it can be killed as one. People calling it a tax does not make it one. It is a a de facto tax. Arguing about it is pointless and silly. However, people have now attempted to put Romney in a catch-22. If he calls it a tax, he is a traitor like Roberts; if he doesn't he is weak against Obamugabe.
45 posted on 07/03/2012 4:10:37 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Puckster

Check his scorecard from Heritage before you anoint him.


46 posted on 07/03/2012 4:15:40 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: SoConPubbie

However, this requires Congressional approval.


47 posted on 07/03/2012 4:17:15 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Bigtigermike

I think Rep. West ought to take up these grievances/worries he has with the Romney campaign in person and stop griping in public.


48 posted on 07/03/2012 4:31:21 PM PDT by PaulRyanUberAlles
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To: Perdogg

Palin knows the urgency of recent events. I’m certain that when approached that she will make the same decision that Washington did. General Washington volunteered for military service but President Washington was drafted.


49 posted on 07/03/2012 4:32:11 PM PDT by rem_mitchell
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To: rem_mitchell
Do we watch this jet crash into a building or do we attempt to force our way into the cockpit. I say, “Let’s Roll”!

I admire your positive attitude. I don't agree at this point, but I would NEVER discourage you.

Rock on my FRiend.

50 posted on 07/03/2012 7:07:11 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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