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Ex-Commerce Secretary Bryson tested positive for Ambien, D.A. says
Los Angeles Times ^ | July 3, 2012 | Robert Faturechi and Andrew Blankstein

Posted on 07/03/2012 4:53:30 PM PDT by opentalk

Former Commerce Secretary John Bryson tested positive for the sleeping aid Ambien, according to the Los Angeles County District Attorney's office.

Prosecutors announced Tuesday that they have decided not to file criminal charges against Bryson in connection with two alleged hit-and-run crashes in the San Gabriel Valley last month.(snip)His tests showed “low end of therapeutic levels” and a criminalist could not say if it was a factor in the collisions. Both treating doctors agree he was suffering confusion following a seizure and crashed as a result, according to the memo.

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KEYWORDS: ambien; bryson; dnc; johnbryson; msmlies; obama; obamunism; rulingclass; sleepdriving
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1 posted on 07/03/2012 4:53:37 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Non-news


2 posted on 07/03/2012 4:54:49 PM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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To: opentalk

Having taken Ambien, for a short period, in the past, I can attest to how bad it can screw with some people. Heck, I’m living proof.

After the first couple of days taking it, I began to sleep eat. I, on one occassion, even prepared a beef curry while completely asleep - my gf, at the time, woke up at 3am to find me immersed in my cooking.

On another occassion, my gf pulled me out of my car, which I had started and was about to depart the driveway - while completely asleep. I never had any recollection of any of the events the next day.

Needless to say, I ceased taking it.


3 posted on 07/03/2012 5:00:01 PM PDT by RobertClark (Be prepared, be polite, be professional and have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: opentalk
Both treating doctors agree he was suffering confusion following a seizure and crashed as a result

Ambien causes seizures?

4 posted on 07/03/2012 5:00:01 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
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To: opentalk

Rat criminal conduct is ALWAYS excused, rarely prosecuted, and never punished.


5 posted on 07/03/2012 5:02:04 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Ambien causes seizures?

Short answer - Yes. There is always an underlying condition, sometimes previously not diagnosed.

6 posted on 07/03/2012 5:02:58 PM PDT by RobertClark (Be prepared, be polite, be professional and have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Thinking the same thing


7 posted on 07/03/2012 5:03:59 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: RobertClark
My buddy had similar issues but I'm not sure if it was Ambien relate or not, although I know he had insomnia issues. One night his Wife found him in front of the refrig eating a stick of butter, he was oblivious.
8 posted on 07/03/2012 5:04:29 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: opentalk

When a similar incident happened to Bob Novak, the Lefties were ready to execute him.


9 posted on 07/03/2012 5:05:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: RobertClark

If your doctor prescribes Ambien, REFUSE! I almost burnt my house down whilst taking it. It brought back my childhood sleepwalking problems. My doc will no longer prescribe to anyone!


10 posted on 07/03/2012 5:06:29 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: RobertClark

Yes, I’ve heard many real-life stories like this. And these are people who had no history of sleep walking.

And don’t EVER drink with it. Don’t even think about it!

I think Ambien is bad, it may work for some people, but it should be very, very carefully monitored.

It’s a sleep aid, yes? I doubt you’ll get much rest if you’re up cooking and driving while asleep!


11 posted on 07/03/2012 5:08:00 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: RobertClark; ClearCase_guy
Ambien causes seizures?

Short answer - Yes. There is always an underlying condition, sometimes previously not diagnosed.


But more to the point: "Use of zolpidem may impair driving skills with a resultant increased risk of road traffic accidents. This adverse effect is not unique to zolpidem but also occurs with other hypnotic drugs. Caution should be exercised by motor vehicle drivers."
12 posted on 07/03/2012 5:08:13 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

“Caution should be exercised by motor vehicle drivers.”

I have a friend whose a retired LEO. He pulled over a women, driving in he pajamas one night. She was driving erratically. When he was questioning her, she woke up! “Where am I? What;s going on?” What was “going on” was AMBIEN! Do not take it! Ask for something else!He also related several other cases to me.


13 posted on 07/03/2012 5:29:18 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: jocon307

I use the generic form - Zolpadem. The worst thing that happened to me was; one night I sleepwalked into the kitchen, ate an entire carton of strawberry ice cream and then went back to bed.


14 posted on 07/03/2012 5:29:45 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: opentalk

They had a damn junkie drug addict right there in the cabinet.


15 posted on 07/03/2012 5:34:53 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: opentalk

bryson was “ambien sleep driving’...screw the seizure crap. He was drivin’ dirty, same as tigger woods..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1233303/Tiger-Woods-took-prescription-drugs-boost-sex-mistress.html


16 posted on 07/03/2012 5:35:33 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: RobertClark

Whoa, is that the experience that gave cause of your tag line?


17 posted on 07/03/2012 5:36:52 PM PDT by 23 Everest (When seconds count. The police are just 23 minutes away. 831 Bonnie)
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To: opentalk
Prosecutors announced Tuesday that they have decided not to file criminal charges against Bryson in connection with two alleged hit-and-run crashes

What if John Q. Public was involved in two hit and runs and was found with low-level therapeutic levels if Ambien in his system? You can bet your butt - cause it'd be a safe bet - that a DUI would have been charged. The ruling elite don't even try to hide their lawlessness anymore. We pay their salaries and they are exempted from the laws that we have to live by. This is bullspit.

18 posted on 07/03/2012 5:37:07 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: aruanan
But more to the point: "Use of zolpidem may impair driving skills with a resultant increased risk of road traffic accidents. This adverse effect is not unique to zolpidem but also occurs with other hypnotic drugs. Caution should be exercised by motor vehicle drivers."

I doubt he took Ambien and then drove. I never did, and most people of reasonable intelligence do heed this warning. However, I did drive 9 to 10 hours after taking it - my morning commute to work. Was all of the Ambien processed by my body and filtered by my liver by then? Likely not.

Ambien being present in someone's system doesn't indicate at which concentration or provide a reasonable timeframe for when it was ingested.

Whether I like the guy or not, I understand this drug and have an appreciation for how pharmaceuticals affect biochemical reactions. I'm not going to pile on a guy whether he is a liberal or a Conservative - it's what should seperate intelligent Conservative thinkers from liberal savages.

19 posted on 07/03/2012 5:37:48 PM PDT by RobertClark (Be prepared, be polite, be professional and have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: RobertClark

Sounds a lot like alcoholic blackouts.


20 posted on 07/03/2012 5:38:58 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ( Romney blows with the political winds, Obama just blows.)
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To: reg45

“ate an entire carton of strawberry ice cream and then went back to bed.”

This is a very common problem with Ambien. I ballooned up to 345 pounds while I was on that Cr@p! I’d get up in the morning, and find I’d eaten a whole loaf of bread during the night.
One morning I woke up with bruises all over my body! I freaked. Suspecting some sort of cardio-vascular problem, I walked into my doc;s office with no appointment. I was quite frightened!. He could find nothing wrong. About halfway through the appt, I realized I had fallen, and thrashed around whilst sleepwalking. I strung a string across my hallway, and found I was somnambulating evry night. I switched to Ativan. No further problems.


21 posted on 07/03/2012 5:39:18 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: RobertClark

I once washed a cat under the influence of Ambien.


22 posted on 07/03/2012 5:40:57 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: liberalh8ter
What if John Q. Public was involved in two hit and runs and was found with low-level therapeutic levels if Ambien in his system? You can bet your butt - cause it'd be a safe bet - that a DUI would have been charged. The ruling elite don't even try to hide their lawlessness anymore. We pay their salaries and they are exempted from the laws that we have to live by. This is bullspit.

Not likely. There have been several cases around here with similar circumstances. In one of the cases, a lady drove right through a storefront while sleep-driving on Ambien. No charges have been filed in any of the cases.

23 posted on 07/03/2012 5:40:57 PM PDT by RobertClark (Be prepared, be polite, be professional and have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Uncle Slayton
They had a damn junkie drug addict right there in the cabinet.

That is one of the most ill-conceived, uniformed statements that I have read in quite some time. Do we resort to the level of those on DU just for the sake of racing to the bottom?

24 posted on 07/03/2012 5:44:36 PM PDT by RobertClark (Be prepared, be polite, be professional and have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

245 pounds, not 345.


25 posted on 07/03/2012 5:44:36 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Uncle Slayton

yep, I agree. Why would the scumbag resign for ambien sleep drivin’.


26 posted on 07/03/2012 5:50:35 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: opentalk

I feel sorry for people that feel the need to go to a doctor and get A DRUG to get to sleep.

Sure, I have my bad nights, like a couple of days ago when I got 4 hours of sleep. Guess what, the world didn’t end - I made it though work just fine...just went to bed a bit earlier last night.

I have some simple rules. If I cannot get to sleep, I simply lay in the bed and fake it. Sure it’s boring and seems to last forever, but if the room is dark I will get at least a few hours of sleep and the other hours in the dark room seems to have essentially the same effect as sleep.

Ambien seems to be one of the most dangerous drugs in existence, it AMAZES me that ANYONE would take it, for ANY reason.


27 posted on 07/03/2012 6:03:07 PM PDT by BobL
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To: opentalk

one of the first things they ask a person in the emergency room is...are you taking any medication? This scumbag tried to use the seizure coverup crap to hide his probable ambien addiction [probably for recreation purposes]...[from WP 6/21/12...
commerce officials reached Thursday did not deny that Bryson’s health was a factor in his decision, noting that Bryson suffered a “complex partial seizure,” based on initial tests by his neurologists. Such seizures can cause abnormal electrical activity in an isolated part of the brain that would allow a person to continue performing simple tasks, but leave the person unable to complete more complex activities, neurological experts said.


28 posted on 07/03/2012 6:08:27 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: BobL
I have some simple rules. If I cannot get to sleep, I simply lay in the bed and fake it. Sure it’s boring and seems to last forever, but if the room is dark I will get at least a few hours of sleep and the other hours in the dark room seems to have essentially the same effect as sleep.

You and me both.
29 posted on 07/03/2012 6:08:32 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: Krankor

“I once washed a cat under the influence of Ambien.”

The cat probably didn’t know the difference, and thankfully, the cat never got in the driver’s seat. That’s why it’s so dangerous.


30 posted on 07/03/2012 6:09:05 PM PDT by BobL
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To: HerrBlucher
Sounds a lot like alcoholic blackouts.

As I understand it, the sequence of media discussion went something like this:

"Did you hear? The Commerce Secretary was in 2 hit-and-run accidents! He must have been drunk as a skunk!! Or maybe on drugs!"
"No. No. That would be bad. He couldn't have been drunk because ... well ... that would be bad. He ... ahhh ... he had a ... a medical problem."
"A medical problem? That sounds weird. What kind of medical problem?"
"Well ... it was ... ummm ... it was ... a seizure. Yeah. He had a seizure."
"Oh. Okay. If you say so. But wait a minute. The blood tests say that he had ambien in his system. So, maybe it was a drug thing after all? I thought you said he had a seizure?"
"Oh, sure. Happens all the time. You know, people get up and eat stuff during the night when they take ambien. It's weird but it happens."
"Okay. But you said he had a seizure."
"Ummmm. Yeah."
"So ambien causes seizures?"
"I told you! People eat loaves of bread without waking up!!"
"But that's not a seizure. You definitely said he had a seizure. Now you say he was on ambien."
"Yes. That's the story. Now shut up. We know what you did in 1982. We have pictures of you. So just shut up."

31 posted on 07/03/2012 6:14:59 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
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To: MindBender26
There is a pattern to MSM stories. The first version is hyped and splash across media headlines, (... bath salts and cannibal assault) the later corrected version gets little attention. (Seizure/ambien)
32 posted on 07/03/2012 6:18:12 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: ClearCase_guy

This one is right out of the Dem playbook.
Two clicks and I found it.....

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-250_162-1590041.html


33 posted on 07/03/2012 6:20:07 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I’ve been taking it for around 5 years, quite regularly to help me sleep. No ill-effects at all, ever.
I guess everyone’s different.


34 posted on 07/03/2012 6:23:25 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: RobertClark

He was on drugs!

No different than some drunk or junkie.


35 posted on 07/03/2012 6:24:03 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: liberalh8ter
The Law Doesn’t Apply to State Attorney Dennis Ward and His Minions in the Florida Keys

MCSO: Evidence lacking to arrest drunk deputy

Deputy Donald Dalton, who by Jan. 9 had already racked up a history of alcohol-related misdeeds with the Sheriff's Office, including a previous allegation of drunk driving while on patrol, was never arrested for the alleged DUI that day and has not been charged with a crime.

Dalton blew 0.155 and 0.151, both almost twice the legal limit of 0.08, in two Breathalyzer tests shortly after he was ordered off the road on Jan. 9, say Sheriff's Office documents.

The incident, however, wasn't the first time Dalton was drunk on patrol, according to the Sheriff's Office. On March 11, 2007, Dalton was breath-tested due to concerns that he smelled strongly of alcohol while on duty. The tests, which were administered at 12:30 that afternoon, showed a breath alcohol of 0.02, below the legal limit of 0.08. But the Sheriff's Office concluded that before 9 o'clock that morning, when a co-worker first complained that Dalton smelled of alcohol, he had been driving with a breath alcohol level slightly above 0.1, higher than the limit.

Attorney disbarred over will but Ward doesn’t prosecute

A Marathon attorney and former president of the Florida Keys Bar Association accused of mishandling a woman's will, particularly his collection of $200,000.00 in inheritance money, consented to being disbarred, but Dennis Ward declined to prosecute.

William "Buck" DeVane, who formerly represented Key Colony Beach and the Florida Keys Community College board, agreed not to practice law in Florida……

In addition to over $200,000.00, DeVane took leather sofas, two flat-screen televisions, a Bose radio, artwork and $2,000 to $3,000 in cash from Meyers' condo, as well as $63,562 given to him to care for the deceased woman's dog.

A legal consultant hired by the city of Key West is recommending the City Commission pay a proposed $45,000 settlement to a man claiming he was wrongfully arrested and thrown to the ground by a city police officer.
The incident in question allegedly occurred about 1 a.m. June 20, 2007, when Unuvar was trying to park his car near his Flagler Avenue residence, reports say. Unuvar reportedly couldn't find a parking space near his house, so he parked on the other side of the street. Police said he did so without headlights.
Unuvar alleges that Officer Luis Sanchez threw him to the ground, and that he suffered a cut to the face from the incident. Unuvar was charged with obstructing an officer without violence, but former cop One-Term Ward later dropped the charge, citing insufficient evidence and never considered charging officer Sanchez.

A year earlier, the State Attorney’s Office had to drop charges against a man that Sanchez had arrested because a comparison of the video and his under-oath report showed that Sanchez was lying to try to justify roughing up the man during the arrest. Lying on an official report is a crime. Would you be surprised that Sanchez was never disciplined at all in this case?

On the evening of July 8, 2010, Sanchez stopped a vehicle that was being driven erratically. But when he realized that the vehicle was being driven by an off-duty cop who had been drinking, he turned off his ICOP and arranged for the cop to get a ride home.

Cop’s Ticket dismissed in fatal accident December 1, 2011

Florida Highway Patrol troopers cited Deputy Scott Ward in August after completing an investigation of the accident in which Ward rear-ended an electric car on U.S. 1 on Boca Chica Key. Randall Graft, 54, of North Huntingdon, Pa., died from injuries received when he was thrown from the vehicle.

Deputy Scott Ward reportedly was going 59 mph in a 55 mph zone on his way to work patrolling Higgs Beach in Key West.

Ward began working for the Sheriff's Office in August 2007. His personnel file contains both a letter of commendation and another for a sustained neglect of duty offense. The latter involved "careless handling or intentional abuse of equipment or weapons," in this case a squad car. He struck a concrete utility pole in his patrol car in February 2010. He received a letter of counseling for the offense. He remains working in road patrol. Randall Graft – not so much.

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36 posted on 07/03/2012 6:24:34 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Uncle Slayton

jim inhofe tried hard to oppose the scumbag bryson....
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=237a5a0e-802a-23ad-483c-a717b5730830


37 posted on 07/03/2012 6:27:32 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: windcliff

Out of it ping....


38 posted on 07/03/2012 6:32:28 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

My wife took that crap...wondering around the house doing crazy stuff...


39 posted on 07/03/2012 6:38:26 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: onedoug

The devil’s pill.


40 posted on 07/03/2012 6:39:54 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: BobL

The only close-call traffic accidents I ever nearly caused (no actual accident) were after very poor or non-existent sleep. Judgment and possibly reflexes were affected. Sleep deprivation is nothing to dismiss. To me, it would be better to stay up one night and be active than to “fake sleep” like you are doing. Lying in bed anxious about not sleeping is very bad. No, I don’t take prescription sleep medicine, but melatonin seems to work very well for me.


41 posted on 07/03/2012 6:46:58 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: BobL
it AMAZES me that ANYONE would take it, for ANY reason.

It won't, after you've been around a bit.

42 posted on 07/03/2012 7:03:49 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Elle Bee
That's sickening. I'm disgusted and angry that is happening in my State!
43 posted on 07/03/2012 7:07:50 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Cementjungle
I’ve been taking it for around 5 years, quite regularly to help me sleep. No ill-effects at all, ever.

same here, love my ambien. You think I'm dangerous taking them, you should see me drive after 3 nights of no sleep !

44 posted on 07/03/2012 7:12:18 PM PDT by MrPiper
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To: MrPiper

I make it three. Love my ambien. Does make dreams seem quite real though. But.. the dreams are always pleasant.


45 posted on 07/03/2012 7:20:48 PM PDT by pnut22
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To: pnut22
I make it three. Love my ambien. Does make dreams seem quite real though. But.. the dreams are always pleasant.

Interesting, I never dream when on ambien. (that I remember) I have had some not so pleasent dreams while dozing for the 15 mins I can when not taking ambien.

46 posted on 07/03/2012 7:27:26 PM PDT by MrPiper
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To: opentalk

Who does he think his is, Patches Kennedy?


47 posted on 07/03/2012 7:53:07 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Da Bro' Gotsta Go!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Ambien is a drug that can alter one’s mental functioning and can cause seizures. Listen to some of the side effects of drugs advertised on television. You will be surprised at what people are willing to have a side effects to get to sleep, to have clear skin, or to “fix” another ailment. Every prescription in the USA comes with a pamphlet that lists the KNOWN side effects of the medication. Most people simply toss those pamphlets away as if they were parsley on a burger. They expect nothing bad can happen because “after all, the medication was prescribed by my doctor”. A good doctor will tell a person the side effects before prescribing a medication and will follow up by asking questions because good doctors know most patients are either illiterate or choose to be no more informed than the person who cannot read.


48 posted on 07/03/2012 7:59:34 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Da Bro' Gotsta Go!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Here is a simple example of the known side effects of Ambien. http://www.drugs.com/sfx/ambien-side-effects.html


49 posted on 07/03/2012 8:01:05 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Da Bro' Gotsta Go!)
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To: Cementjungle
Everyone is really different when it comes to proper dosage.

Two drugs frequently prescribed to control blood pressure can cause VERTIGO in some people. The manufacturers say so. So does FDA.

So, what to do when you take both ~ easy ~ keep cutting the dose on each until you no longer sense VERTIGO.

Here's what's really weird ~ the people susceptible to VERTIGO can tell within minutes that the dose they're using is causing it.

Watching a Court TV segment the other day and they were talking about this Peterson guy who may have killed several of his wives. One wife, who left a letter about it, was treated for all sorts of conditions including hypertension. She developed Vertigo so they treated her for that ~ and named the drug.

Looked it up and it deals with Vertigo ~ except it has its own miserable side effects. Where was the doctor ~ he should have changed doses on some of the other stuff first.

Peterson may well have had a perfectly nice wife but it sounded like she'd ran into the 'KIller Docs" ~ he probably ought to sue!

50 posted on 07/03/2012 8:06:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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