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Fewer workers cross border, creating U.S. farm labor shortage
McClatchy Newspapers ^ | 07/03/2012 | Tony Pugh

Posted on 07/03/2012 5:24:41 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

On more than 10,000 acres of drained swampland in western New York, Maureen Torrey’s family farm grows an assortment of vegetables in the dark, nutrient-rich soil known as “Elba muck.” Like other farms in the area, Torrey Farms Inc. of Elba, N.Y., depends on seasonal labor, mainly undocumented field hands from Mexico, to pick, package and ship its cabbage, cucumbers, squash, green beans and onions throughout the nation.

With the peak harvest season at hand, Torrey’s concerns about a labor shortage are growing. A crackdown on illegal immigration, more job opportunities in Mexico and rising fees charged by smugglers are reducing the number of workers who cross the U.S. border illegally each year to help make up more than 60 percent of U.S. farmworkers.

The American Farm Bureau Federation projects $5 billion to $9 billion in annual produce-industry losses because of the labor shortages, which have become commonplace for farmers such as Torrey, who said there were 10 applicants for every job five years ago.

“In the last year that wasn’t the case,” she said. “We hired anybody that showed up for field work. It’ll be interesting to see how many people we have knocking on the door this year.”

With the cherry harvest under way in south-central Washington state, the Sage Bluff farmworker housing compound in Malaga is only half full, with nowhere near the 270 workers it can accommodate.

“I would say we’re significantly short,” said Jesse Lane, the housing manager for the Washington Growers League, which runs Sage Bluff. “I had a grower contact me who said he only had 20 pickers and he needed over a hundred.”

In California, farmers are reporting labor shortages of 30 percent to 40 percent, said Bryan Little, the director of labor affairs for the California Farm Bureau Federation.

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KEYWORDS: border; farmlabor; illegals
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1 posted on 07/03/2012 5:24:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Maureen Torrey sits on a tractor at the Torrey Farms in Elba, New York. She has changed crops due to increasing shortages of skilled field laborers because of immigration reform and other factors
2 posted on 07/03/2012 5:26:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind

The solution:

End welfare.

Voila.


3 posted on 07/03/2012 5:29:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: SeekAndFind
In California, farmers are reporting labor shortages of 30 percent to 40 percent, said Bryan Little, the director of labor affairs for the California Farm Bureau Federation.

And, what is the "unemployment rate" for california these days?

4 posted on 07/03/2012 5:30:02 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind
With the peak harvest season at hand, Torrey’s concerns about a labor shortage are growing.

Welfare in New York pays better and is easier work.

5 posted on 07/03/2012 5:31:02 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: SeekAndFind

The legal program does work. Many of the farmers use it, but are undercut by those who don’t. These farmers need to mechanize, shift crops, raise pay..in short adapt just like the rest of us.


6 posted on 07/03/2012 5:31:19 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: SeekAndFind

We’ll see how hungry the people living in this country have to get before they get off their @$$es and get out there and pick that stuff. Relying on Mexican Nationals to do it seems a little racist to me.


10 posted on 07/03/2012 5:32:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare is only the beginning. It's all downhill from here.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"...depends on seasonal labor, mainly undocumented field hands from Mexico..."
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Well there's yer problem right there!
11 posted on 07/03/2012 5:32:58 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Oldexpat

My goodness, We got you the first time. Did you have to post it 4 times???


12 posted on 07/03/2012 5:33:09 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well too bad... they can do what farmers did when I was kid - hire local teens. Farmers and ranchers hired me, and I loved the pay. This farm could pay locals the same wages they paid illegals (or a bit more) - and they would quite likely have all the laborers they need.


13 posted on 07/03/2012 5:34:07 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s a labor shortage because welfare/food stamps/public housing pays better than farm wages.


14 posted on 07/03/2012 5:34:26 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There are enough able bodied deadbeats drawing welfare benefits to pick every damned pea in the world!


15 posted on 07/03/2012 5:35:02 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: little jeremiah

Excellent point.


16 posted on 07/03/2012 5:36:06 PM PDT by doc1019 (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Perhaps they are not coming for jobs but for........


17 posted on 07/03/2012 5:37:15 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Back in the 80’s a large scale farm operation where I lived used to swing a deal with a village in Mexico. The farmer provided assistance with getting the paperwork for temporary visas, provided the transportation and housing in return for more than enough workers for an entire season.

The villagers liked it because they got to work together for wages far better than could be had in Mexico at the time.


18 posted on 07/03/2012 5:37:48 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I suggest the traitorous bastards who hire illegals advertise these jobs for Americans.


19 posted on 07/03/2012 5:40:25 PM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: Rebelbase
I recall in working for a while in he San Juacin Valley and the “bracero” program was working successfully whereby the farmers associations using labor companies bringing in Mexicans for work and returning them to Mexico afterward.
20 posted on 07/03/2012 5:43:43 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Lazy farm industry. In every “advanced nation” but the U.S. “labor saving” investments have reduced farm labor demand much greater than has happened in the U.S.

The call that U.S. farming is in dire need of more labor is actually a call that U.S. farming wants to continue receiving regular doses of cheap immigrant labor and stave off making the capital investments other nation’s farmers have made.


21 posted on 07/03/2012 5:46:55 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: SeekAndFind

12.7 million unemployed as of June 1.


22 posted on 07/03/2012 5:48:39 PM PDT by Clock King
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Hispanic unemployment rate 11%+
Black youth, over 16%


23 posted on 07/03/2012 5:52:28 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Clock King
12.7 million unemployed as of June 1.

Amazing, isn't it? This country has made unemployment a lucrative alternative to working. While, at the same time, it advocates importing foreign labor to do the "dirty" work. Maybe if we started requiring labor for welfare, things might at least start to turn around.

24 posted on 07/03/2012 5:53:30 PM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe if the federal and state governments stopped paying able bodied young men and women to stay home, do drugs, fornicate, have babies and play video games?

Nah - that would never work.....


25 posted on 07/03/2012 5:55:00 PM PDT by Iron Munro (John Adams: 'Two ways to enslave a country. One is by the sword, the other is by debt')
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To: Clock King
12.7 million unemployed as of June 1.

How can a socialized American society survive with only 13 million unemployed?

26 posted on 07/03/2012 5:56:12 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: little jeremiah

Exactly.


27 posted on 07/03/2012 5:56:51 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SeekAndFind

Gawrsh, maybe the artificially depressed wages will have to rise!


28 posted on 07/03/2012 5:58:35 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: SeekAndFind

They’re all at the parking lot of Home Depot.


29 posted on 07/03/2012 6:00:16 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I had a new roof put on a few months back. The crew was entirely Mexicans and Guatemalans. I have no idea if they were legal or not, but not one of them spoke English. They worked their tails off though, and did a great job.

These guys know how to work. Our yoots know how to play video games, complain, and wait for what is “entitled” them. Thanks to the welfare state, we’re soft, and our kids are soft. And we’re not willing to do the hard work necessary to maintain a society.


30 posted on 07/03/2012 6:01:59 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: SeekAndFind

We're all gonna die!

(of hunger.)

31 posted on 07/03/2012 6:03:22 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: SeekAndFind

These growers should check out this new free market principle I’ve been hearing about. Its called supply and demand.


32 posted on 07/03/2012 6:03:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: little jeremiah

Just what I was thinking. Empty the welfare roles and then they can import labor. All that happens is we subsidize their salaries through medical, foodstamps and other services.


33 posted on 07/03/2012 6:05:37 PM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: Iron Munro

If you somehow could get the parasitic class to work on a farm, they would quickly develop “back pain” or something and then go on disability to get more welfare. The subclass of human parasites is quite a problem.


34 posted on 07/03/2012 6:14:24 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: little jeremiah

The other solution is to adapt and buy technology that allows you to do the work with less workers and pay the rest better wages, as they will be skilled laborers and deserving of better pay.


35 posted on 07/03/2012 6:14:50 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: SeekAndFind

so this woman admits she hires illegals...nice she admits the lawbreaking


36 posted on 07/03/2012 6:15:42 PM PDT by lifeisagame
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To: SeekAndFind

What nobody is either noticing or discussing is the large number of LEGAL IMMIGRANTS who are going home due to the lack of work in America.

Our house cleaners are legal as are their parents. Their parents have returned to Mexico.
They discuss in detail, how widespread this is.


37 posted on 07/03/2012 6:19:50 PM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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To: little jeremiah
I agree. Anyone on welfare who is able bodied and wants a check should be required to pick fruit, or no check.

The company that I worked for tried the H2A program for several years. It was a disaster without going into the details. It was a real pain and costly because of the fines for picky crap.

38 posted on 07/03/2012 6:21:46 PM PDT by Parmy
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Gee, maybe they will have to raise wages to attract workers and the market will work like it is supposed to and we won't need minimum wage laws anymore. Naw.
39 posted on 07/03/2012 6:22:01 PM PDT by 12chachacha
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To: little jeremiah
I agree. Anyone on welfare who is able bodied and wants a check should be required to pick fruit, or no check.

The company that I worked for tried the H2A program for several years. It was a disaster without going into the details. It was a real pain and costly because of the fines for picky crap.

40 posted on 07/03/2012 6:22:33 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: elpadre
I recall in working for a while in he San Juacin Valley and the “bracero” program was working successfully whereby the farmers associations using labor companies bringing in Mexicans for work and returning them to Mexico afterward.

I really don't see a problem with that (although it does seem that Guest Worker has become toxic). If Americans are too dang lazy to do that work why not have a company hire Mexicans willing to do the work, bus them up here, and bring them back after the work is done? Perhaps it would be wise though to have a "half up front, half when you go back" payment plan to ensure everyone got on the bus back.

41 posted on 07/03/2012 6:26:43 PM PDT by chargers fan
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To: SeekAndFind

They have to leave before they can return!

How can we miss them if they won’t leave?


42 posted on 07/03/2012 6:30:58 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I hate pragmatists!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Vegetables labor is 35 cents on the dollar. Lets say the cost of using domestic labor is 50% higher, or 17 1/2 cents. So a dollar’s worth of veggies now costs $1.17. No law breaking, no riff raff no importing socialists. I say a good deal all around.


44 posted on 07/03/2012 6:36:32 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: EGPWS

That’s right, the open borders liars have sworn up and down for years that the illegals just can not get welfare...well, then it was discovered that Obama’s Aunt Zetuni was living in Boston on subsidized housing. The Democrats want as many people as possible on welfare wether they have a right to be in this country or not.


45 posted on 07/03/2012 6:50:29 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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Well too bad... they can do what farmers did when I was kid - hire local teens. Farmers and ranchers hired me, and I loved the pay. This farm could pay locals the same wages they paid illegals (or a bit more) - and they would quite likely have all the laborers they need.

I'm guessing you have no interaction with current "local teens."

46 posted on 07/03/2012 6:52:26 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: SeekAndFind

End EBT and welfare, seal the border, and tell employers that if they can’t find labor, then they aren’t paying enough.


47 posted on 07/03/2012 7:00:50 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Skilled farm labor = illegal aliens working under the table.

No unemployed Americans will apply because they cost farm employers too much [no hires] and welfare pays better.


48 posted on 07/03/2012 7:05:25 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Ron C.

The Maine potato growers would hire schoolkids to pick potatoes. I went to school with a girl from Maine who used to talk about it. Probably the Democrats did something to muck it up due to their devious plans. Who knows, maybe the farm labor organizer Chavez didn’t like it.

The Democrats stopped development of fruit and vegetable picking machinery at the University of California at Davis because they wanted to save the jobs for the Mexican farm laborers, so who knows what else they may have done to stop sensible solutions for farming needs. Vdare.com has an article about this in their archives.


49 posted on 07/03/2012 7:11:24 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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Be careful! My comment got removed for saying almost the exact same thing!


50 posted on 07/03/2012 7:17:50 PM PDT by turn_to
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