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"It's a boson:" Higgs quest bears new particle
Reuters ^ | July 4, 2012 | Reuters

Posted on 07/04/2012 7:20:50 AM PDT by James C. Bennett

GENEVA: Scientists at Europe's CERN research center have found a new subatomic particle, a basic building block of the universe, which appears to be the boson imagined and named half a century ago by theoretical physicist Peter Higgs.

"We have reached a milestone in our understanding of nature," CERN director general Rolf Heuer told a gathering of scientists and the world's media near Geneva on Wednesday.

"The discovery of a particle consistent with the Higgs boson opens the way to more detailed studies, requiring larger statistics, which will pin down the new particle's properties, and is likely to shed light on other mysteries of our universe."

Two independent studies of data produced by smashing proton particles together at CERN's Large Hadron Collider produced a convergent near-certainty on the existence of the new particle. It is unclear whether it is exactly the boson Higgs described.

But addressing scientists assembled in the CERN auditorium, Heuer posed them a question: "As a layman, I would say I think we have it. Would you agree?" A roar of applause said they did.

Higgs, now 83, from Edinburgh University was among six theorists who proposed the existence of a mechanism by which matter in the universe gained mass. Higgs himself argued that if there were an invisible field responsible for the process, it must be made up of particles. The particle is the emissary of the field and proves its existence.

He and others were at CERN to welcome news of what, to the embarrassment of many scientists, some commentators have labeled the "God particle" for its role in turning the Big Bang into a living universe: Clearly overwhelmed, his eyes welling up, Higgs told the symposium of fellow researchers: "It is an incredible thing that it has happened in my lifetime."

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: cern; higgsboson; nuclear; science; stringtheory

1 posted on 07/04/2012 7:21:00 AM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: All

Boson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boson

In particle physics, bosons are one of the two fundamental classes of subatomic particles, the other being fermions.

Bosons are characterized by their obedience to Bose–Einstein statistics. This class of particles includes photons and gluons, as well as the Higgs boson.

The name boson is derived from the surname of the Indian physicist, Satyendra Nath Bose, a contemporary of the German physicist Albert Einstein.


2 posted on 07/04/2012 7:24:43 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett

Paging John Titor....


3 posted on 07/04/2012 7:24:53 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: James C. Bennett

But who created the boson? When someone proves 0x0 equals something other than 0, then things will really get interesting.


4 posted on 07/04/2012 7:28:26 AM PDT by allendale
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To: James C. Bennett

Gawd I love bosons.


5 posted on 07/04/2012 7:29:54 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A Dalmation was spotted wagging its tail.)
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To: James C. Bennett

I’m not going to pretend to know or understand the details, but I think this discovery, if it holds up, has huge implications for the validity of superstring theory.


6 posted on 07/04/2012 7:30:17 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: the invisib1e hand

LOL!


7 posted on 07/04/2012 7:33:46 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: allendale
But who created the boson?

That type of thinking can stretch to infinity. Somewhere along the line 'something' had to have been here since the beginning, if there even was a beginning.

8 posted on 07/04/2012 7:35:32 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: James C. Bennett

The search begins for its corresponding anti-particle — the boson’s mate, as it were...


9 posted on 07/04/2012 7:35:50 AM PDT by mikrofon (Fun w/ Fyzix)
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To: James C. Bennett
This discovery could have been American, but we gave up.

The Abandoned Remains of the Superconducting Super Collider

10 posted on 07/04/2012 7:38:16 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: ETL; allendale

And that something would also need a reference point for it to be able to begin anything... so it truly would stretch to infinity. In other words, the infinite regress.


11 posted on 07/04/2012 7:38:41 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett

Does Sheldon Cooper agree?


12 posted on 07/04/2012 7:39:42 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: James C. Bennett

So, after playing with the theory of atoms for almost two hundred years, they think they have actually found something that is indivisible?


13 posted on 07/04/2012 7:41:04 AM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: James C. Bennett

“The discovery of a particle consistent with the Higgs boson opens the way to more detailed studies, requiring larger statistics...” And larger grants of free money from the USA.


14 posted on 07/04/2012 7:42:05 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: James C. Bennett

“The discovery of a particle consistent with the Higgs boson opens the way to more detailed studies, requiring larger statistics...” And larger grants of free money from the USA.


15 posted on 07/04/2012 7:42:25 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: mikrofon

Ahh yes...but a very uncertain future awaits, so it would seem...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/14/us-china-bo-guagua-idUSBRE83C1JF20120414


16 posted on 07/04/2012 7:45:54 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: James C. Bennett

I practical and applied terms, where can this lead us?


17 posted on 07/04/2012 7:49:14 AM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Dr. Ursus

18 posted on 07/04/2012 7:55:14 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: James C. Bennett
We continue to discover the complexity of the creation....
... and the wisdom, power and artistry of the Creator.

***********

For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen...

...Being understood from what has been made,
.... so that people are without excuse.

--Romans 1:20 (NIV)

*******

God bless...

19 posted on 07/04/2012 8:04:06 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: James C. Bennett

It’s all probably a vast waste of time and resources.
Mans wisdom is foolishness to G_d. (paraphrase)
Who knows though? Surely not me.


20 posted on 07/04/2012 8:10:27 AM PDT by paintriot
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To: Fightin Whitey

Many of these entities do have a short half-life...

I’m wondering when they’ll detect the Higgins boson — wouldn’t that be loverly!


21 posted on 07/04/2012 8:16:50 AM PDT by mikrofon (My Fair Lepton)
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To: mikrofon

oh yes the Higgins...they say e’liesa broad way up ahead...given the tight budget though it’s hard to know whether to do more or doolittle...of course there are a good many theories already, some sketchy’uns and some very firmy’uns too....


22 posted on 07/04/2012 8:26:58 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: mikrofon
I’m wondering when they’ll detect the Higgins boson — wouldn’t that be loverly!

It should be easy! I think if they but Doolittle, I think he's got it!
23 posted on 07/04/2012 8:29:13 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: RobbyS

No, it’s not indivisible. In fact they found it by capturing evidence of particles it spawned while disintegrating.


24 posted on 07/04/2012 8:30:56 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I believe such particles are prevalent in pygmal ions....


25 posted on 07/04/2012 8:35:57 AM PDT by mikrofon (The spin in branes falls mainly within the plane...)
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To: Dr. Sivana; mikrofon

Oh all these wonderful theories!

I think I’ll pour myself a nice hot cup of Lepton and try to think them through.

You know, I hadron of my own one time but forgot to write it down....


26 posted on 07/04/2012 8:38:57 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Vince Ferrer

Fools! How are you guys going to deal with lady Terminators without one?


27 posted on 07/04/2012 8:45:49 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: mikrofon

...pygmal ions...

...oh man that prompted from me a spontaneous breaking out and, like London Bridge, falling down in laughter...


28 posted on 07/04/2012 8:46:46 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: James C. Bennett

Everytime I read this sort of stuff, I am reminded of Medieval clerics debating home many angels can fit on the head of pin.


29 posted on 07/04/2012 9:10:17 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: Fightin Whitey

Very nice!

(I really love quarky humour ;)


30 posted on 07/04/2012 9:20:45 AM PDT by mikrofon (Remember: It's not really humour w/o the 'U'...)
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To: Dick Vomer
My wife got me this shirt:

She think I smart.

31 posted on 07/04/2012 9:21:13 AM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: James C. Bennett

Is this the particle that if it blows creates everything else?


32 posted on 07/04/2012 9:38:06 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: ArtDodger

Well I’d much rather public money went towards expanding our knowledge of the universe than down the rat hole of welfare. Better would be private dollars spent on these accelerators.


33 posted on 07/04/2012 9:47:21 AM PDT by albionin (A gawn fit's eye gettin.)
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To: James C. Bennett

The boson was almost extinct at one point, wasn’t it?

If this is the “God Particle,” I think there will be an executive order soon to change the name to the “Obama particle”. Of course, depending on its mass, it might be the “Michelle Particle.” We’ll need some more funding to study that.


34 posted on 07/04/2012 9:50:13 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: umgud

A unified field theory. Maybe the control of gravity. Ships that can float up into space instead of having to be sent on enormous expensive and dangerous rockets. Maybe new ways of generation clean energy. This is just another piece of the puzzle gaining us a clearer picture of the way the universe works. It also helps us to know what questions to look into next.


35 posted on 07/04/2012 9:52:17 AM PDT by albionin (A gawn fit's eye gettin.)
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To: albionin

I was hoping for that kind of response. THX


36 posted on 07/04/2012 9:57:07 AM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: the invisib1e hand

What’s not to love. They don’t bother anyone. They usually keep to themselves.


37 posted on 07/04/2012 10:02:23 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: RobbyS
they think they have actually found something that is indivisible?

these are not really particles per se....it's just that it's easier to think in those terms. they have energy, they vibrate and are influenced by gravity. we call them particles.

particles

38 posted on 07/04/2012 10:29:37 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (The)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

I was reading Richard Feynman, who has to be my all-time favorite physicist-,was trying—unsucessfully— to explain just that to his very bright father, with regard to other sub-atomic particles. So help me to betsy, but they are more “spirits” with ectoplasm, than the “billard ball” atoms of the 19th century. Having to think in terms of probabilities than the certainies that newtonian physics once promised.


39 posted on 07/04/2012 10:59:57 AM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: paintriot

Actually no. From such knowledge comes the ability to build new things.


40 posted on 07/04/2012 11:23:50 AM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: steve86

“Particles,”of course being a somewhat misleading term.


41 posted on 07/04/2012 11:25:55 AM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: mikrofon

Agreed. Humor = good.

Seems wise to enjoy yuk-yuk-yuk-away interactions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukawa_interaction) if they present themselves, especially in these difficult times, if only as a means of moral support & confidence distribution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_distribution)!

In the meantime hang in, keep the spirits up, and battle on in the cause of esprit de corps and conservative unitarity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarity_(physics)!


42 posted on 07/04/2012 11:28:36 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: James C. Bennett
Higgs quest bears new particle

So, what did they carry it in, and where did they take it? I thought they were just trying to uncover it; seems premature to have already carted it away, as well.

43 posted on 07/04/2012 12:19:25 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: RobbyS

Oh, come on. Just as real as a glimmer in an Angel’s eye. And I am religious.


44 posted on 07/04/2012 12:57:04 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: Paradox

where’d she get that shirt? I want...it.


45 posted on 07/04/2012 9:45:24 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: KevinDavis; annie laurie; Knitting A Conundrum; Viking2002; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Mmogamer; ...

Thanks James C. Bennett.


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46 posted on 07/05/2012 2:40:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Dick Vomer
http://shirt.woot.com/offers/the-formula-for-success.
47 posted on 07/05/2012 3:48:41 AM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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