[Tupelo]

“If you take up arms against the United States, the fact that you are a “Citizen” really does not matter a hill of beans.”

Did David Koresh “take up arms against the United States?”
Did Randy Weaver “take up arms against the United States?”
Emphatically NO! The government decided they must die. Koresh and 80 followers did. Vicki and Sammy Weaver died. Only Randy Weaver survived. If he had not, we would all have believed the lies the government told.
In the Branch Davidians massacre, the story got out despite the media.
Not much difference from the official stories told about some battles in the 19th century Indian Wars.

[Kansas58]

Calm down.
I too was very angry and outspoken against the Waco and the Ruby Ridge disasters.
In both cases, the ATF or other government agents went for the headlines and used excessive force.
In the Koresh case, he had a routine schedule and could have easily been arrested on his way into town, with much less risk to others.

However, I still say that historically, and legally, if it is decided that a military threat exists, that threat can be dealt with BY OUR MILITARY!

It does not matter if the enemy combatants are citizens or not.

They can be shot for taking up arms. They can be shot for acts of violent rebellion.

Would you prefer a blood bath, if we try to arrest a small army on our own soil?

Our problem, currently, is that our Commander in Chief can not be trusted with the same powers we gave to President Lincoln.