[pierrem15]

No, I'm not one of them-- I simply mean that pursuing these matters using elections when the media, the judiciary and much of the government all have their left thumbs weighing heavily on the scale of pubic opinion is becoming a fool's errand.

You seem to think these problems can be fixed using the normal political process, while I don't. That's all.

[pallis]

My comment that you are one of the ones supporting these environmental groups that are suing us wasn’t meant as a criticism. We, as tax payers, are the people who support these nonprofit groups. We are the people funding them. At any rate, my argument isn’t with you, and I’m glad you know what I think will work, because I still haven’t figured it out.