Skip to comments.Will This Be America’s Last Independence Day?
Posted on 07/04/2012 11:58:31 AM PDT by Hojczyk
How many of you out there today are asking the same question? Will today be Americas last Independence Day?
After three and a half years of Barack Obama the economy is in ruins. The regulations more oppressive. The government is more intrusive. And the future looks bleak.
Think of this Just three and a half years ago ** In President Bushs last year in office, 2008, the deficit reached $459 billion. Today, for the third year in a row, the US deficit is over a trillion dollars (and Obama still says its Bushs fault). This is after he promised to cut the deficit in half.
** Real GDP has risen 0.8% over the 13 quarters since the Great Recession began, compared to an average increase of 9.9% in past recoveries. It is the worst recovery on record.
** On July 3, 2008 the day before Independence Day Barack Obama said that adding $4 trillion in debt was irresponsible and unpatriotic.
** Obama is the worst jobs president since the Great Depression. The jobs recession is the longest since World War II.
** Government agents are now grabbing your crotch at the airport and frisking your grandmother.
An Obama TSA agent marches away after bringing a passenger to tears at a Midwest airport.
** The Obama EPA is spying on Iowa farmers in planes but holding talks with the Taliban.
** Obama blew a trillion dollars on a stimulus and downgraded the economy.
** Since the recession ended in June 2009, the number of new enrollees on disability is twice the job growth figure.
** Obama passed the largest intrusive tax in world history while lying and calling it healthcare.
Obama wants more change. He wants more control. His plans include more devastation. Can America really survive another four years under Barack Obama?
Regardless of what Obama has done to this country, we will get it back and bring it back to what it is supposed to be. I believe the American people still have it in them and I won’t give up them. It won’t be easy but it will be done.
The last Independence Day was last year...
The TRAITOR John Roberts saw to that.
Let me wish all FReepers a very happy if not somber Independence Day. Let us all remember the Founders today and the grand plan they had for this republic. Let us all reflect on what we’ve been through these last 236 years, and let us endeavor to turn back the tide of Socialism, Fascism, and Communism that is now lapping at our shore.
That being said, I will go on record, as I have numerous times over the last 3 years, that this will be America’s last Independence Day insomuch as Obama will ensure no voting will occur in November through an eventual call for martial law and suspension of elections. As the heat goes up, both temperature and political, Obama will feel less inclined to abide by any of our laws.
My bet is still early September.
I hope so...so we can finally start the “party”. (Party = Civil War 2)
I'm very sorry to admit that I am.
After three and a half years of Barack Obama the economy is in ruins. The regulations more oppressive. The government is more intrusive. And the future looks bleak.
And it's not just that. It's the fact that, from what I understand, everybody hates the guy, he's supposedly floundering so badly he can't possibly win the election, his AG is in danger of impeachment, etc., yet he wins battle after battle after battle and seems to have no opposition in the political class despite the fact that the people are united almost 100% against him.
How is this even happening?
We stopped being free when the 16th Amendment was passed. Since then we have all become slaves.
Until we get rid of it and the IRS we will continue to be slaves. Slavery has nothing to do with color.
America is in essence not so much a country as it is a way of life. An enemy may occupy a country. An idea is much harder to kill.
August-September-October is a classic period for economic upheaval. About a month late for Q3 time period in the USA.
There are certainly enough things going on to make 2012 a pivotal year.
Take off those rose colored glasses! Or what the heck, leave them on. Escaping reality is all we have left.
Independence Day now seems more a commemoration than a celebration.
Charbroiled prime beef jumbo cheese burgers cooked to order.
French fried sweet potatoes.
Flying the American Flag from my WWII combat veteran Dad's coffin.
When I can't do these things then Independence Days have ended... at least for me.
I don’t know just what my democrat socialist friends and relatives think that they’re celebrating today!!! “Interdependence”, heavy hand of State, robbing Peter to pay Paul day? . . . The traditional May Day communist celebration was two months ago!
I’m wearing black funery polo shirt and the rear window has a Gadsen flag sticker. So Sad.
Gone baby Gone, except for the refuge I can find here,the loves that exemplifies the spirit of 76, here at Free Republic.
We are no longer free.
The Obama administration pushed the US well over the tipping point.
I am starting to get truly pissed off with the negativism and pessimism I have been seeing in the last few days.
NO. America is not on the brink of collapse!
NO. Things now are not worse than they have ever been!
NO. Democrats today are not the most radical and nasty than they have ever been!
YES. It is likely that Republicans are going to be in charge of both houses of congress after the next election, even if the POTUS is a liberal Republican. And far more of these congressmen and senators will be REAL conservatives, not RINOs!
YES. The bureaucracy is going to be taken down a bunch of pegs, and money will be flowing back to the Pentagon.
YES. There is going to be full scale energy production again. The price of oil and gas will drop, coal will likely be re-legalized, and even nuclear energy will get a shot in the arm.
YES. This will do wonders for the economy and lift us out of the “Obama depression”.
SO ENOUGH WITH THE NEGATIVE WAVES, ALREADY!
And if you act right now, you get, absolutely free, to annoy the hell out of the leftists and Democrats, by showing the stars and stripes to everyone you see, and crying out “God Bless America!”
NO! It is going to be a hard road back—but I have great faith in the American People. We have been hit before and came back—But I fear, the road will not be easy and many may not live though the fight. Our enemies are dedicated and fanatical. They will not give up without a fight. Once people see the truth (they are waking up now) they will return America—we will no longer be a nation of group/victims but a nation of winners.
This is why the Founders left us the Second Amendment.
Congressional Record—Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals
EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, January 10, 1963
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
At Mrs. Nordman’s request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following “Current Communist Goals,” which she identifies as an excerpt from “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen:
[From “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen]
CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture—education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [”]united force[”] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
They've been at it for 60+ years, eroding, eviscerating, polluting, and indoctrinating.
We have at least two generations of sheeple who believe that communism, socialism, “social justice” is better then the free market aka FREEDOM.
They, believe in their doctrine of “fairness” as much as we believe in freedom.
Brace for another epic battle my FRiend.
Freaky. I just asked myself that very question about 2 minutes ago, before I opened FR. Then I changed the question to “How many Independence Days does the country have left?”. Guess I’m not the only one expecting the worst...:(
I appreciate those whowere willing to shed their blood to give us freedom. I am grateful to Jesus for the shedding of His blood to give us freedom from death.
“The Obama administration pushed the US well over the tipping point.”
True, but it was a relay race in which both major parties have participated.
Yep, but here's the rub...we're told if we exercise it we fall into their hands.
Caveat: I'm not advocating, just saying.....and the fact I have to post that is, well, all saying....
This IS 1984.
No, and is even a bit problematic we will survive even if he gets defeated. Nevertheless, we will persevere in either case.
“I have great faith in the American People. We have been hit before and came back”
That was then; this is now. The “American People” are no longer that. They’re Afro-American, Asian-American, Hispanic-American, Polish-American, etc. Everybody’s hyphenated, and the word that comes before the hyphen is where their hearts are. Young adults have never been taught American History, so they don’t “get it”, and they never will. There have been polls showing that a huge number of people don’t see much wrong with Socialism.
Yes; “we have been hit before and came back”, but people were better then — better educated, better character, etc. It’s a whole new ballgame. 2011 was American’s last Independence Day in a patriotic sense.
I hate to say it, but this election will solve nothing. Pick your socialist poison? NO THANKS.
The only patriotic course for conservatives to take now is to get the ball rolling on secession. That is the only way the red states ever hope to restore the U.S. Constitution.
You never did.
When was it legal to sell an organ?
Ingest drugs for recreational purposes?
But your point is a valid one, now you cannot even be overweight, pudgy, plump...voluptuous?
Crap, sorry about the formatting ;(
It's actually very easy to tell you what is happening: the ruling classes (there are several) are disinclined to give up power, they are disinclined to be held to account, and they are disinclined to listen to mere cattle. -- and make no mistake, the ruled are cattle; why else would the IRS claim that all foreign earnings are taxible? -- It's fine if the cattle are aggravated or uncomfortable, just so long as they are part of the herd going where directed and producing as directed.
Io believe there's only two ways to get through this: #1 - Divine intervention, and #2 - Violently ousting them from their offices. (the success of #2 is dependent on god, meaning that there is only one way.)
Many countries celebrate annually a day that they won freedom from a foreign nation.
I just don't think we will be celebrating individual freedoms and liberties. Most people do not realize what freedom is. Most people do not realize freedom means individual control over an issue, not government regulation.
As government takes control over every issue and regulates it, we are no longer a free people.
But we can always sit in traffic, pay $5.00 in parking, stand in line and watch government controlled approved fireworks displays on July 4th wave American flags.
I'm sorry but I'm going to disagree; casting a vote for Romney is a signal to the Republican party that they can push whoever they want on us, this in turn will encourage them to push more RINOs on us. -- and let's quit using the term RINO, it's obvious that the true masqueraders are the Republicans that believe in a limited, responsible government. (look at the times that GW Bush was in office, and the Legislature was Republican-controlled; ask yourself what they did to reduce the size/scope of government, what they did to overturn Roe.v Wade, what they did to repeal GCA/NFA?) The republicans did not even put a token out there regarding Roe v. Wade, not even a resolution considering the USSC wrong and that the 5th Amd applies to the unborn.
NO. America is not on the brink of collapse! I would remind you that if, percentage-wise, you were allowed to run up the kind of debt America now has incurred, your household would not only collapse, the creditors would be owning your accountable possessions!
NO. Things now are not worse than they have ever been! In one sense, we are not at the great depression state, but in many ways we are far worse off, because so much of our wealth as a nation is now owned and controlled and regulated by the globalist agenda lovers that the means to recover from a depression state are not available as they were to come out of the great depression. Even a significant war, since our heavy manufacturing industries are now 'out sourced' would not work as it did to come out of the great depression.
NO. Democrats today are not the most radical and nasty than they have ever been! Sorry, that is just magic thinking. Not only are Democrats more nasty than ever before (have you listened to Nancy Pelosi lately?), they are more bold in their hatred of the America of the founding fathers, and the racial strife they lust for is more likely than ever before on a scale you don't want to contemplate for reasons of avoiding mental depression, with community organizers actually training dependency youths to come to rob and radicalize on call.
The Democrats have succeeded in degenerating our military standards, are implementing sexual degeneracy education your parent's generation would have shot people over, and the amount of debt now upon the average tax paying citizen is approaching bankruptcy levels, with banking powers able to slide their exposure onto federal programs like Fannie and Freddie, so the banking interests remain powerful and insulated from the mischief they have wrought, and we have a subPreme Court now siding with lawless governance.
The media which programs more than 50% of the American voting population is far more insidious than ever before since the taboo structure which restrained their wholesale degeneracy is now so full of holes that sexual degenerates run the networks and their ilk are protected in the streets as they parade their degeneracy in 'parades to celebrate diversity'.
This same herding media lie boldly to the sheeple whom they program and there is no feasible way to stop them!
The state of this Republic is so bad presently that people are in denial of the real catastrophes about to arrive. That of course is human nature, it was the same in Argentina not many decades back, to shift into denial when it is so bad that it is 'unbelievable we could get to this stage in destruction'.
YES. It is likely that Republicans are going to be in charge of both houses of congress after the next election, even if the POTUS is a liberal Republican. And far more of these congressmen and senators will be REAL conservatives, not RINOs! I would remind you that a Soros owned Spanish company is counting far too many of the American votes this cycle, so the likelihood that voters will be allowed to depose enough enemies-of-America democrats in close races is fading fast with the dissonance factor we see raving even at Freerepublic. The majority of Soros owned vote counting has been arranged in red states, so getting those bastards out of office will be near impossible unless a trunout of conservative voters is so large that the cheating of count will be exposed. I don't see that turnout coming givent he noise being raised to reject the opposition candidate to little barry bastard commie.
YES. The bureaucracy is going to be taken down a bunch of pegs, and money will be flowing back to the Pentagon. Watch the vote counting, and see if races are close, because those are the ones the democrats will steal right before your eyes and there isn't a thing short of armed insurrection which can stop them where red state vote counting is handled by the Spanish company owned by an enemy of We The People.
YES. There is going to be full scale energy production again. The price of oil and gas will drop, coal will likely be re-legalized, and even nuclear energy will get a shot in the arm. Again, magic thinking, because the democrats are not going to lose control of power if the elections are close at state levels, and we know what their approach to energy production is ... regulate, control, shut down, build the dependency class numbers while loading the federal employee and government handout numbers to collapse the system ala Cloward-Piven strategy.
YES. This will do wonders for the economy and lift us out of the Obama depression. SO ENOUGH WITH THE NEGATIVE WAVES, ALREADY! I do hope you are enjoying your bout with magic thinking. It must be a comfort to you on this fourth of July.
And if you act right now, you get, absolutely free, to annoy the hell out of the leftists and Democrats, by showing the stars and stripes to everyone you see, and crying out God Bless America! Oh how I love to annoy the leftists and democrats among US. That is one of the few real joys to the soul left to US as the collapse rushes toward US. ... And yet, as I pray 'God Bless America' I am reminded of the tens of millions of alive unborn Americans who have been slaughtered because We The People did not soundly reject the evil of the Re v Wade era. I find it hard to believe God will bless us at this stage in our rejection of His blessings. But I'll join you in trying yet again to plead with The Almighty to cleanse our land and bless US again as He has in past eras.
Your mileage may vary, but check to see that it's not magic thinking in which you're counting to make US prosper.
Yes. Beginning next year the 4th of July will be known as "Government Dependence Day".
There is much truth in what you say.
No. If I'm wrong, it will be my last Independence day.
Both parties have used the slaughter of alive unborn Americans as an empowerment scheme: the democrats have demanded no restrictions on the slaughter, while the Republicans have used token opposition to the evil as a measn to fire up a duped base. We even have a man at FR running for president who has used the issue as his means to empower himself, by opposing any bill which would limit abortions in one way or another just because these efforts —in light of Roe v Wade being the law being— do not ban ALL abortions. I call it the all or nothing empowerment scheme where it is a given that what he demands is not going to happen because a law on the books is the means for both sides to exploit the evil.
Both parties have used the slaughter of alive unborn Americans as an empowerment scheme: the democrats have demanded no restrictions on the slaughter, while the Republicans have used token opposition to the evil as a measn to fire up a duped base. We even have a man at FR running for president who has used the issue as his means to empower himself, by opposing any bill which would limit abortions in one way or another just because these efforts —in light of Roe v Wade being the law— do not ban ALL abortions. I call it the all or nothing empowerment scheme where it is a given that what he demands is not going to happen because a law on the books is the means for both sides to exploit the evil, so he is in effect sacrificing the children who could be saved because he isn’t getting all he demands.
“Independence Day now seems more a commemoration than a celebration.”
The day may come, perhaps within thirty years, when we see “Independence Day” renamed to something else.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see it renamed to “Equality Day” — no longer celebrating the “independence” of the nation or the individual, but rather the government-forced “equality” of everyone and the equality of all cultures....
That thought has also crossed my mind from time to time . . . oddly enough.
Get rid of abortion as the law of the land and gain divine grace.
My money is on "Diversity Day." ( ^8 }
“YES. It is likely that Republicans are going to be in charge of both houses of congress after the next election, even if the POTUS is a liberal Republican. And far more of these congressmen and senators will be REAL conservatives, not RINOs!”
If the Republicans win the executive branch and both houses of Congress, the leadership will be: Romney, Boehner, McConnell. These three “leaders” will set the agenda for the majority party and control the levers of power for the executive and legislative branches of the federal government. There will not be enough real conservatives in Congress to pose a threat to their power and all three have consistently been willing to compromise their avowed principles with the Democrats throughout their careers.
Name one time any of these three men risked his political career to fight for a conservative principle. Tell me about the vision each has for the future of America. Romney has been running for years and I have no clue what he really stands for deep down in his soul. Mitch McConnell all but said this week he wouldn’t fight to eliminate Obamacare in the next Congress. Boehner, with a Republican majority in the House, has done nothing to put a brake on the ruinous deficit spending destroying the dollar, the economy, and the credit of the nation. Contrast with Ronald Reagan who wore his convictions on his sleeve proudly and never wavered in the face of unrelenting attacks.
The Democrat leadership minority leadership will be Pelosi and Reid (or worse if either of them retires). The second string (Chuck Schumer, Dick Durban, Patty Murray, Debbie Stabenow, Steny Hoyer, James Clyburn, Wasserman-Schultz are all hard core leftists who relish fighting to the finish. The Democrat leadership, allied with the mainstream press, will be highly energized to engage the Republicans on every issue. Reid will have no problem using the filibuster at every turn to block legislation that might turn back the socialist tide. No doubt at the same George Soros will be making mischief in the markets in order to bring down the economy. The mainstream press will start blaming the Republicans from day one for high unemployment, the exploding deficit, and everything bad in the world.
I would like to be optimistic but it is difficult for me to see three men with no vision or convictions (Romney, Boehner, McConnell) suddenly change their stripes and go to battle on behalf of conservative principles they’ve never held deeply or at all. It is more likely we’ll see a repeat of the pathetic Bush, Hastert, Frist leadership of the last Republican administration. Thank goodness Washington didn’t have to rely on them at Valley Forge.
They will be coming for our gold and guns soon. The healthcare debacle was all about the potential tax revenue hidden in the bill. They will shutdown the internet and start raids sometime within the next few years (my guess). Using financial emergency powers or some faked terrorist attack (or just one they let happen). We need to have a method to communicate when the raids begin. Any suggestions ? Should we go back to independent dialup modems as a backup ? Perhaps ham radio operators can be used for communication ?
Because DC is financially bankrupt as well as morally bankrupt. To the Oligarchy, it is all about the money. Obama gave them all trillions in debt to blow on trinkets. Who cares that he corrupted the Supreme Court. Who cares that his minions corrupted the Legislative Process. Who cares that he handed Egypt with all its national treasures to the Muslim Brotherhood. Everyone got government grants to buy cheesy poofs.
Unfortunately, all we now have to show it for it is cheesy poof farts and a dysfunctional government. Romney wont be much better, but we know that going in. We know how the Oligarchy works. So we use their strengths against them. We move the ball back to the RINO side. They are not setup for a revolutionary or secessionist movement from the right while the RINOS control the power. Imagine Obama cracking down on the Occupiers with Grape Shot. The reaction would have been astronomical. Time to jump ahead of the game and use it to our favor.
Romney's RINO job will be to preserve the revenue makers in the Healthcare debacle. He will also move for gun control and climate change legislation. But we get him elected knowing that and just using him to cover the secessionist or revolutionary movement. The only alternative now would be to champion someone at the convention. Who ? Palin ? Ron Paul ?
We celebrate it. It’s up to the parents to celebrate and teach their children how to do the same.