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“Voting third party because you hate Mormons is pathetic”

How about if I don’t vote for Romney because he is a crypto-leftist RINO wussy?

[JoeProBono]

Sorry.

Must have you confused with greyfox.

[JoeProBono]

[Elsie]

Elsie, you do a good job!

Aw...  shucks...

 

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The praise rightly goes to those who have gone before me.

To those who have LIVED under the rules and regulations of MORMONism and have told THEIR stories to Free Republic.

And yes, even to the massive MORMON Empire; that is absolutely ANAL about recording EVERYTHING that it's ever done and making it available to the world!

[Elsie]

Elsie, you do a good job!

Oh YEAH!?

Then tell him to get OFF of that dang comupuster thingy and come let me out of the barn!

[Elsie]

The religious hatred here right now is disgusting.

Yup; these examples really makes certain folks look badly; don't they.

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Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).

Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).

 

 

 

Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).

 

 

 

Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).

 

 

 

Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses

, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).

 

 

President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).

 

 

 

James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).

 

 

 

President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).

 

 

 

More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).

 

 

 

President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).

 

 

President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

[Lakeshark]

It's very simple.

Pretending a RINO squish is the same as a radical leftist who hates America and all of the good it stands for is insane. Sorry, pretending that's "conservative" thinking or intelligent is as loony as anything I've ever heard.

Allowing this horrid administration to hold the reigns of power because you have some image of being "pure" is laughable.

I think you must secretly admire Quix for his consistency.......:-).....Hint: I'm not responding to your ssilliness here anymore, take this to another thread please.......

[JoeProBono]

[JoeProBono]

[Star Traveler]

Yes, I know there are many who have gone before all of us here on this forum, and they’ve put in a lot of time and effort. I seem to remember a Sandra and Gerald Tanner, from reading some of their materials years ago. I think Sandra Tanner was a great-great granddaughter of Brigham Young (I can’t remember how many “greats”). She’s done a lot of work in exposing the duplicitous and deceiving ways of the Mormon institutional organization and hierarchy - with ample documentation.

Utah Lighthouse Ministry
http://www.utlm.org/

Then there is Walter Martin and his wonderful reference book - “Kingdom of the Cults”

http://www.waltermartin.com/cults.html

The Mormon cult and the Jehovah’s Witnesses cult are two of the “homegrown cults of the USA”. And I believe they are both two of the biggest CULT GROUPS in the USA.

And of course, what I’m talking about here in terms of CULT GROUPS (which they are) - is in terms of basic, foundational and historic Christianity (i.e., its teachings and doctrines) -versus- the false, apostate and satanic teachings of cult groups. They are a CULT GROUP when they depart from the foundational teachings of Christianity - and they are NOT CHRISTIANITY as a result, but a “pretend-to-be-Christianity” which is, by DEFINITION of Christianity - a CULT!

Now ... I know that many who are secular and not religious at all, or simply celebrate Christmas and Easter and that’s it, think of “cults” as the “Jim Jones types” ... where people are killed in mass suicides by drinking kool-aid and shooting Congressman, etc.

But, this is not the definition that Christianity uses. So, I would advise others to not get this confused with that secular idea of a cult group (as you might read in some large metropolitan newspaper).

What we’re talking about here is a CULT GROUP in terms of the authentic Gospel of Salvation (per the Scriptures, and only the Scriptures and not other spurious sources) and with the Bible being the absolutely authoritative and inerrant Word of God.

To bring home the point on the source of authority being God’s Word, I frequently bring up a very important “church declaration” (and that’s “church” as in the body of believers) - called the “Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy”.

http://www.bible-researcher.com/chicago1.html

This is a very important document from the church, as the body of believers and from their leaders who represent them. This would be akin to the Council of Nicea, where leaders gathered to recognize and affirm that Jesus is, without a doubt, the Son of the Living God, and that has become part of our teachings and doctrines ever since then - and BECAUSE that’s what the Bible teaches, and not simply because some leaders “say so”. We can check their statements against the Bible and see that they are saying (in short-hand form) the same thing that the Bible is saying - and that’s why Christianity adheres to it - from then until now.

The Bible being God’s Word and Christians of today putting that forth as a point of recognition of what the Bible says, in being God’s Word - this is another “church gathering” and pronouncement on the order of the Council of Nicea.

SO ... I have personally dealt with those who come to spread the false doctrines and teachings of their CULT GROUPS - like those from Mormonism and from Jehovah’s Witnesses. And I’ve spent time with them and I see they are very deceived in their own minds and their thinking is clouded and they are blinded (as the Bible says) by Satan’s deceptions and wiles and they are taken in by the “ways of the world” which they make out to be God’s ways, but they are far from God’s ways - according to the Scriptures.

There are a lot of us who see those false doctrines - which do seem to be increasing these days and deceiving even more people than in the past. But, we’re told that this deception and false teachings will go on until the time that Jesus, the Messiah of Israel returns to his earth - to take His place as ruler over all the nations (all those you see right now) - and then He will rid the world of all these false doctrines and teaching and deception.

HOWEVER ... for those who have been deceived and “taken in” by those false teachers of some “unknown gospel” (which God has not given) - they will be LOST by then and be condemned to EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION in the lake of fire, as we see told in the book of Revelation. And this is what we’re trying to prevent for many of these people - that “eternal damnation”.

SO ... it doesn’t have to do with simply saying ... “Haha ... I’m right and you’re wrong!” ... and then walking away. No, not at all. It has to do with the ETERNAL DESTINY of these people and the fact that they will end up in the LAKE OF FIRE and ETERNAL TORMENT. That is what is at stake here, and not merely some “online argument” - as some people seem to think it is.

And ... we do so not only out of concern for these people - BUT ALSO - out of a COMMAND to us from our Lord Jesus Christ, in which we are to go out into the world to proclaim the true Gospel of Salvation - in order that THEY MAY BE SAVED — and not allow them to trust in a FALSE GOSPEL which will not save them from that coming judgement that we read about in the book of Revelation.

[Star Traveler]

OKAY ... I signed up over there - and for a couple of reasons. One reason was that I read that another poster here said that his name was “hi-jacked” over there — and that “hi-jacker” was pretending to be him - and saying things that he didn’t say.

WELL ... I could just see someone hijacking me, too ... LOL ... and so I’m making sure they don’t! What you read over there now for “Star Traveler” is really me ... :-)

In fact, I would warn people - if you don’t want to be “hi-jacked” in name, you might consider doing that yourself!

And the second reason is that I figured that would give me a way to talk to my Christian friend - Quix - again. We used to do that a lot here, but, alas, he’s not here anymore; he’s only over “there”.

And so ... yes ... I did read what you were talking about. Apparently Quix says he was “agnostic” to the idea before, but has now come to put more stock in it. Of course, if you know Quix - whatever he gets his mind on - he’s VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT ... a sort of understatement ... :-)

But, that doesn’t bother me, because if I disagree with him about something - we don’t get mad at each other and just like friends, it’s okay not to agree on everything.

The MAIN THING is that we’re “right on the mark” as far as the Christian faith is concerned and we are both very concerned about keeping the right doctrines and teachings intact (according to the Scriptures) - and we both know that when Jesus returns to this earth again that we’ll both be here to see Him and be with Him.

Anyway ... thanks for writing and telling me. I just thought I would let you know I found it and followed up on it.

[marbren]

Star Traveler !!!! Praise God ! Good to hear from you! I am not back on FR I left in January never to return. JESUS IS COMING! I had thought I would not hear from you until we meet on the other side of the river Jordan! God Bless you my brother/sister? IN Christ!

[Elsie]

Pretending a RINO squish is the same as a radical leftist who hates America and all of the good it stands for is insane.

Likewise...

Pretending a RINO squish is BETTER THAN a radical leftist who hates America and all of the good it stands for is insane.

[Elsie]

... trust in a FALSE GOSPEL which will not save them!!!

[Elsie]

...until we meet on the other side of the river Jordan!

I'm on the east side; how 'bout you?

[marbren]

jonathan kleck

[svcw]

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On one side we have people trying to explain why they do not support Romney, on the other we have people who write that if you do not agree with them in supporting Romney you are delusional, insane, stupid, ignorant, democrat operative, secret obama supporter, trouble maker, non-Christian, mormon hater, hater, lunatic, deceiver, liar, incoherent, rambling, and (whatever the phrase of the day is)........this whole thread is fascinating.
I do not support Romney OR obama.

[Not gonna take it anymore]

Bookmark

[Star Traveler]

Yes indeed, we will meet there. In the meantime, I did send a note to you through your FReep mail ... :-)

[greyfoxx39]

Voting third party because you hate Mormons is pathetic (in my opinion, of course).

I don't suppose you see over 95% of mormons voting for Mitt because of their shared mormonism as being pathetic, right?? That has been the case since '08 at least.

Their (your?) shared faith overrides his stance on abortion and homosexuality. Pathetic.