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Fireworks Shot Off Early in Bay (San Diego)
NBC San Diego ^ | 7/4/2012 | Lauren Steussy

Posted on 07/04/2012 10:50:54 PM PDT by cabojoe

Those watching the Big Bay Boom in San Diego's Glorietta Bay witnessed what was either an accidental fireworks display -- or a very disappointing fireworks show.

Port District authorities said a "technical difficulty" resulted in all the fireworks going off at once.

"We sincerely apologize for the technical glitch that affected the #BigBayBoom. Event producers are currently investigating the cause," read a Tweet from the Port of San Diego.

The Port hires the company Garden State Fireworks to operate the fireworks show. A spokesperson with the company confirmed that there was a technical issue in the show, but officials are still trying to determine what happened.

About 5 minutes before the show was supposed to start, a sudden burst of fireworks shot into the air near the bay. Throughout downtown San Diego, a large rumble could be felt just before 9 p.m. on Wednesday night.

It appeared that hundreds of fireworks were set off at the same time. The explosions lasted a few seconds.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcsandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fireworks; sandiego

At least 3 barges in different parts of the bay all went up at once.

1 posted on 07/04/2012 10:51:02 PM PDT by cabojoe
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To: cabojoe
Looks like their fourth of July was blown apart just like the Constitution was by the People in Washington.
2 posted on 07/04/2012 10:58:44 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: cabojoe

Wow! Must have been something to see!


3 posted on 07/04/2012 11:05:11 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

I was on the docks in front of the Marriott with my dslr and just didn’t have the picture framed up. Missed the shot. It was huge.


4 posted on 07/04/2012 11:09:08 PM PDT by cabojoe
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To: cabojoe
I was laughing out loud at this reply in the news article:

Botched? It was the Greatest Firework Show I have ever seen. It was TREMENDOUS! Lets do it again!

5 posted on 07/04/2012 11:13:12 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: cabojoe
...were set off at the same time. The explosions lasted a few seconds.

Sudden, premature detonation? Sigh... It happens. Maybe more often with a younger ah "display" company, less often with a more "mature" and experienced display company... But hey, sometimes things just happen. Hey, think of it as a compliment to how....oh never mind!

6 posted on 07/04/2012 11:19:36 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: cabojoe
I was told the story about a similar disaster. The control board for the fireworks had banks of mechanical switches that had to be tested in advance by an electrician, before being hooked up to the fireworks. Everything was tested and the reset switch was not switched to reset the system. When they turned on the system to begin the program, it caused everything to go off at once.

Most of these big civic fireworks displays have systems ran by a computer. I can imagine the complexity involved and what happens when the operator makes one mistaken mouse click. BOOM!

7 posted on 07/04/2012 11:34:59 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: cabojoe

Bummer.

Things went flawlessly here


8 posted on 07/04/2012 11:41:25 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: cabojoe

Hey, it was in the bay, and it was a bang...a really big bang, so they got what was advertised. Whatta they griping about?


9 posted on 07/04/2012 11:44:04 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: cabojoe

Typical Union Job.

Next year they will require more funding to prevent a repeat of the fiasco.


10 posted on 07/04/2012 11:44:27 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: cabojoe

At least the folks in San Diego got to see fireworks. Here in Pt. Jervis, NY we didn’t have a display because of budget constraints. Further upriver in Narrowsburg, their fireworks show was cancelled because the DEC claims it would’ve disturbed a bald eagles’ nest near the Delaware.


11 posted on 07/04/2012 11:46:48 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: cabojoe

They outlawed the Miss Emersom contest on Fiesta Island, I would rather see Miss Emersom than some miscalculated fireworks display


12 posted on 07/04/2012 11:49:28 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Impala64ssa

You see where this crap is going.


13 posted on 07/04/2012 11:50:41 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: cabojoe

THAT SUX!


14 posted on 07/04/2012 11:52:39 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY- IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Impala64ssa

Thunder and Lightning Never disturb those critters.
It’s probably best to take away everyone’s fun JUST TO BE SAFE /S


15 posted on 07/04/2012 11:56:45 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: onyx

THAT SUX!
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Meep! Meep!

Guess that is the last time we will use ACME for anything.

RR


16 posted on 07/04/2012 11:59:11 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "Hopefully this administration is a "bad dream" - think the Newhart show.")
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To: Impala64ssa

One of the most profound things I have read here was a fellow today who pointed out that this administration is quite enamored of themselves for providing record levels of food stamps, but the same administration advises that we will be FINED if we feed the animals as we DON’T WANT THEM TO BECOME DEPENDENT.


17 posted on 07/05/2012 12:04:53 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: onyx

It was a screw up of epic proportions. You need to move back here and straighten this place out.


18 posted on 07/05/2012 12:28:56 AM PDT by cabojoe
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To: cabojoe
It was a screw up of epic proportions. You need to move back here and straighten this place out.

LOL. I'll be back to live there again, "some day."

I'm so sad this happened. I have one little granddaughter here with me. We went down to the river tonight to watch the fireworks. They're shot off from a boat, so it felt and looked like the display was coming right at us. She loves the Fourth here for this very reason, and makes certain she's here every year.

I trust you and yours are well and happy. Hope there' something going on during the time I'm taking her back home - Aug 4- 14, so FReepers can get together!

God bless and keep you, dear friend.

19 posted on 07/05/2012 12:43:19 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY- IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: mylife

“They outlawed the Miss Emersom contest on Fiesta Island, I would rather see Miss Emersom than some miscalculated fireworks display”

Aw....you are KIDDING. Miss Emersom is one of the finest traditions of San Diego!


20 posted on 07/05/2012 1:34:41 AM PDT by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: cabojoe
There are several videos of the fiasco online, but this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuJHfkXEI-o

shows all three barges of fireworks -- exploding in 29 seconds...

21 posted on 07/05/2012 1:59:04 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: TXnMA

I heard of the story in the Seattle area where the fireworks company had all of the stuff stored in a container at an auto-salvage yard waiting to be picked up.

Except the salvage yard guy decided he wanted to shoot his new rifle. And also decided to use the container as his backstop. Two small towns ended up without fireworks, and the salvage guy ended up with one big (yet short) one.


22 posted on 07/05/2012 2:25:12 AM PDT by 21twelve
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To: jonrick46

I was figuring that it was controlled by a computer running Windowssomethingoranother, and it encountered the red, white, and blue screen of death.


23 posted on 07/05/2012 5:13:19 AM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: cabojoe

I’ll bet the system was hacked by a mischievous alumnus from the California Institute of Technology. They would always figure out a way to play havoc with the scoreboard at the Rose Bowl.


24 posted on 07/05/2012 10:39:43 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Ping to self to show Mrs. Liberty later.


25 posted on 07/05/2012 10:53:58 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: 21twelve

I don’t believe the story in Seattle. To my knowledge, neither brass not lead emit sparks upon brisk contact with steel, and I don’t think a tracer round could have penetrated the cargo container.


26 posted on 07/05/2012 10:56:16 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Steel jacketed? I’m not very knowledgeable about ammo so could be all wet.


27 posted on 07/05/2012 11:07:24 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: steve86

Steel-jacketed ammo exists, but it’s not popular. It’s too hard. I’ve never seen it, but I’ve never looked.


28 posted on 07/05/2012 11:13:20 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: TXnMA

Thanks for the link. Fiasco is a great word for it!


29 posted on 07/05/2012 11:41:24 AM PDT by cabojoe
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To: cabojoe

30 posted on 07/05/2012 12:06:24 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Cyber Liberty
That was my response to the person relating the story to me as well. Who knows. Neither the fireworks owner or the salvage guy had insurance to cover it, but I guess the salvage guy said he would pay for the damage. I was wondering if the shock from a round hitting something inside might detonate it? Anyway - as cool as the 29 second “grand finale” was in the San Diego video, I preferred the 20 minute long show we watched!
31 posted on 07/05/2012 12:17:54 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Cyber Liberty; 21twelve
To my knowledge, neither brass not lead emit sparks upon brisk contact with steel, and I don’t think a tracer round could have penetrated the cargo container.

Concussion. Rapid compression of gunpowder. Rapid compression and heating of magnesium, aluminum, PHOSPHOROUS.

Then... there is this.

Try using several pounds of gunpowder as a target, and see what happens.


32 posted on 07/05/2012 12:21:43 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Cyber Liberty; 21twelve
To my knowledge, neither brass not lead emit sparks upon brisk contact with steel, and I don’t think a tracer round could have penetrated the cargo container.

Concussion. Rapid compression of gunpowder. Rapid compression and heating of magnesium, aluminum, PHOSPHOROUS.

Then... there is this.

Try using several pounds of gunpowder as a target, and see what happens.


33 posted on 07/05/2012 12:23:04 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

I dunno if concussion sets off black powder. Maybe they were using C4 as fireworks?

I have my doubts because the “forest service” says a dozen or so wildfires in AZ over the past few years were started by firearms, and I’d like to know exactly how that happens.


34 posted on 07/05/2012 1:01:04 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: gemoftheocean

Looks like I was wrong. Whew!!! http://www.ombac.org/over_the_line/emerson/emerson_2010/2010_Ms.%20Emerson.htm

Maybe they just don’t do it on Fiesta Island anymore or something.


35 posted on 07/05/2012 4:13:12 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: cabojoe

Something similar happened to a boyhood friend.

We were sitting on my front porch and lighting firecrackers and throwing them out into the driveway. A stray spark went into his paper bag full of fireworks, and his fun was over in a few minutes.


36 posted on 07/05/2012 9:44:07 PM PDT by tdscpa
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To: Cyber Liberty
have my doubts because the “forest service” says a dozen or so wildfires in AZ over the past few years were started by firearms, and I’d like to know exactly how that happens.

OH. Well... what they meant was Mexican gangs with firearms, and cigars, blunts, meth pipes, lots of lighters, a few grenades.

The Sinaloa Cartel now owns the lower half of Arizona. Obama and Calderon sealed the deal a ways back.

37 posted on 07/06/2012 4:23:56 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I dunno if concussion sets off black powder.

If you believe the cowboy movies and Hollywood in general, it does.

I would agree that concussion might not be enough, for black powder. I've never tried it myself.

However, this fireworks 'package' contained a whole bunch of 'other' flammable and highly explosive chemical substances.

Aluminum - Aluminum is used to produce silver and white flames and sparks. It is a common component of sparklers.

Antimony - Antimony is used to create firework glitter effects.

Barium - Barium is used to create green colors in fireworks, and it can also help stabilize other volatile elements.

Calcium - Calcium is used to deepen firework colors. Calcium salts produce orange fireworks.

Carbon - Carbon is one of the main components of black powder, which is used as a propellent in fireworks. Carbon provides the fuel for a firework. Common forms include carbon black, sugar, or starch.

Chlorine - Chlorine is an important component of many oxidizers in fireworks. Several of the metal salts that produce colors contain chlorine.

Copper - Copper compounds produce blue colors in fireworks.

Iron - Iron is used to produce sparks. The heat of the metal determines the color of the sparks.

Lithium - Lithium is a metal that is used to impart a red color to fireworks. Lithium carbonate, in particular, is a common colorant.

Magnesium - Magnesium burns a very bright white, so it is used to add white sparks or improve the overall brilliance of a firework.

Oxygen - Fireworks include oxidizers, which are substances that produce oxygen in order for burning to occur. The oxidizers are usually nitrates, chlorates, or perchlorates. Sometimes the same substance is used to provide oxygen and color.

Phosphorus - Phosphorus burns spontaneously in air and is also responsible for some glow-in-the-dark effects. It may be a component of a firework's fuel.

Potassium - Potassium helps to oxidize firework mixtures. Potassium nitrate, potassium chlorate, and potassium perchlorate are all important oxidizers.

Sodium - Sodium imparts a gold or yellow color to fireworks, however, the color may be so bright that it masks less intense colors.

Sulfur - Sulfur is a component of black powder. It is found in a firework's propellant/fuel.

Strontium - Strontium salts impart a red color to fireworks. Strontium compounds are also important for stabilizing fireworks mixtures.

Titanium - Titanium metal can be burned as powder or flakes to produce silver sparks.

Zinc - Zinc is used to create smoke effects for fireworks and other pyrotechnic devices.

38 posted on 07/06/2012 4:34:45 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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