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Obama's Social Security Number challenged
WND ^ | July 5, 2012 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 07/05/2012 9:53:40 AM PDT by Smokeyblue

If Barack Obama has an immediate eligibility problem, it is more likely to derive from the Social Security Number he has been using for the last 25 years than from his birth certificate.

Ohio private investigator Susan Daniels has seen to that. On Monday, July 2, she filed suit in Geauga County (Ohio) Common Pleas Court demanding that Jon Husted, Ohio secretary of state, remove Obama’s name from the ballot until Obama can prove the validity of his Social Security Number.

Daniels, who has vetted thousands of Social Security Numbers for numerous other clients, has done her homework. In her filing, she thoroughly documents her contention “that Barack Obama has repeatedly, consistently, and with intent misrepresented himself by using a fraudulently obtained Social Security Number.”

To acquire appropriate standing in court, Daniels has gone to the trouble of establishing herself as a valid write-in candidate for president. Before she is through, this 70-something mother of seven, who has been a licensed Ohio PI since 1995, may cause Obama more trouble than the Romney campaign.

Daniels started her investigation in August 2009. Given her profession, she has been able to access a variety of proprietary databases. What she learned without much trouble is that Obama has been using a Social Security Number with the prefix “042″ since 1986.

As she discovered, the “042″ number is reserved for the exclusive use of individuals who register in Connecticut. When she ran 10 sequential numbers before and after Obama’s, all returned with the documentation “issued 1977-1979 in CT.”

When Daniels ran the numbers immediately flanking Obama’s, she came to the firm conviction that Obama’s number was issued in March 1977 in Connecticut.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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KEYWORDS: ayers; birthcertificate; certifigate; crime; dnc; fraud; jackcashill; liar; naturalborncitizen; obama; socialsecurity; ssn; usurper
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1 posted on 07/05/2012 9:53:52 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Brown Deer; LucyT; melancholy; null and void

Ping

Story is on Drudge right now.


2 posted on 07/05/2012 9:56:25 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue
Daniels asks the court, among other things, to issue an injunction against Obama’s name appearing on ballot until it is determined that he is using a proper Social Security Number.

I give up. Why is this important? I don't see how the SS# itself is relevant to the ballot.

3 posted on 07/05/2012 9:57:06 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Smokeyblue; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...

Perhaps our country will actually get some security from Social Security?


4 posted on 07/05/2012 10:01:07 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1261 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: Sherman Logan

Most Democrats agree with you.


5 posted on 07/05/2012 10:01:44 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
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To: Sherman Logan
you don't see why a president (candidate) using a fraudulent SS # would be relevant?
6 posted on 07/05/2012 10:02:04 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Sherman Logan

Research E-Verify and see what that says about Social Security Numbers that don’t match the user and the ability to work in the US.


7 posted on 07/05/2012 10:03:08 AM PDT by Harley
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To: Sherman Logan

Because using a fraudulent SS# is fraud and that number belonged to someone else. He used that number to obtain DL’s and probably to obtain loans, etc. Just guessing as that might be relevant reason.


8 posted on 07/05/2012 10:03:08 AM PDT by Engedi
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To: Smokeyblue
From Political Forum http://www.politicalforum.com/other-miscellaneous/176759-revealed-obamas-ct-social-security-traced-john-paul-ludwig-lived-ct-died-hi.html Obama's social security # belonged to a Frenchman named Jean Paul Ludwig. "Obama's maternal grandmother Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-timer or volunteer in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse. Thus she would have access to the estate files of anyone who died there. " From Political Forum: "This is what we know about Ludwig: In 1924, Jean Paul Ludwig worked for Senator Reed of PA, in Washington DC. On the ship manifest of ‘Leviathan’, he listed Senator Reed in Washington, DC as his empl., in answer to where he intended to live in the US. Jean Paul Ludwig had been in the US for 3 yrs in 1924, but he was listed on the “Immigration” manifest and refered to as an alien in the column headings. Listed under “States Immigration Officer at Port of Arrival”, New York, Aug 12, 1924: Jean Paul Ludwig, Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924, Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France, Line#: 0008 Line #8: By Whom was Passage Paid: Emp. Mr. Reed; Whether in possession of $50: Yes; Whether ever before in US: Yes; If Yes-Period of Years: 3; Where: PA Whether going to join relative or friend: Empl. Senator Reed, Washingto, DC Length of time alien intends to remain in the US: Always Height 5′5″, Complexion Dk., Hair Br., Eyes Br., Marks of ID: None Place of Birth: France, Ammersville." http://www.ellisisland.org/sign/inde...T=LL&section=3
9 posted on 07/05/2012 10:03:08 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Sherman Logan

..I give up. Why is this important? I don’t see how the SS# itself is relevant to the ballot....

Can you make a few guesses why it might be relevant?


10 posted on 07/05/2012 10:04:21 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Smokeyblue

Are you sure? I looked twice.


11 posted on 07/05/2012 10:05:22 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Read the next sentence. It says that a fraudulent SSN is a violation of both the Federal and State Constitutions, which would preclude FUBO from running again.
I guess we will see if there is a real judge in Ohio.


12 posted on 07/05/2012 10:05:52 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: mountainlion

“Obama’s Social Security Number challenged...”

Lower left hand side on Drudge.


13 posted on 07/05/2012 10:07:12 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue
It's a crime to use a fraudulent SSN and there is not a POS in DC that will do anything to this criminal. So, this dictator will just go on about his goal of destroying the US.
14 posted on 07/05/2012 10:09:13 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Smokeyblue

As long as the MSM refuses to cover this...it’s going to be put into the UFO catagory. Whenever these questions are brought up...the media laughs...and implies that anyone asking the questions is crazy or some hair-brained partisan.

The problem is...Obama can’t come up with a long form birth certificate that doesn’t appear to be photo-shopped.

His draft registration card has a date that appears to have been forged.

And his SS card was issued in March or April of 1977 in a state he’d never been to.

The amazing thing is...there is not one “reporter” in the country who will look into any of this. Why is THAT do you suppose?

I think many are afraid of ending up like Vince Foster.


15 posted on 07/05/2012 10:09:43 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: Smokeyblue

I looked at it three times and did not see it.


16 posted on 07/05/2012 10:10:36 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: paul51
you don't see why a president (candidate) using a fraudulent SS # would be relevant?
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It is called dumbing down the citizenry. Soon, those that were once discerning individuals will lose their analytical abilities and others will reach the outer limits of exhaustion and just throw in the towel. This is the Communist op plan for success.

17 posted on 07/05/2012 10:10:56 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: Smokeyblue

Also on Drudge right now.

Trump: Obama will start Iran war to win election
‘We don’t negotiate. We don’t know how to negotiate’

http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/trump-obama-will-start-iran-war-to-win-election/


18 posted on 07/05/2012 10:11:30 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Sherman Logan

19 posted on 07/05/2012 10:14:02 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: kjo; Smokeyblue
The problem is...Obama can’t come up with a long form birth certificate that doesn’t appear to be photo-shopped.
His draft registration card has a date that appears to have been forged.
And his SS card was issued in March or April of 1977 in a state he’d never been to.
The amazing thing is...there is not one “reporter” in the country who will look into any of this. Why is THAT do you suppose?

What the hell is it with you members of the VRWC? Every time some gay Marxist from Kenya gets elected President, you all seem to go nuts. Chill out.

20 posted on 07/05/2012 10:14:54 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and FU Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Engedi
Thats the scary part, many gov. security departments must know this but are silent, enablers
21 posted on 07/05/2012 10:15:04 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: vette6387
For this reason, Daniels has filed suit. “Defendant Husted, through this filing,” she argues, “has been made aware that the Democratic Candidate has been using a fraudulent Social Security Number, which would render Barack Obama ineligible under both the Ohio and U.S. Constitutions.”

You are right, she does say this.

But it's a claim or contention, not a fact.

How exactly does a fraudulent SS#, in and of itself, render a candidate under the US Constitution? Which clause spells this out?

I think it far more likely the plaintiff believes it should make a candidate ineligible, and I might even agree with her. But I really doubt the US Constitution has anything at all to say about SS#s with regard to eligibility. In fact, the Constitution has nothing at all to say about whether convicted felons are eligible to be elected president.

22 posted on 07/05/2012 10:15:27 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Smokeyblue

Good, good...pick at that scab, any scab...
Maybe this nightmare will end by bleeding to death.


23 posted on 07/05/2012 10:16:54 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: vette6387
Faked birth certificate,stolen S.S. number..nobody cares.
Our only hope is thru the ballot box!
(Oh wait, the fix is already in. Nix that notion too!)
24 posted on 07/05/2012 10:17:23 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Smokeyblue; Brown Deer; LucyT; melancholy; null and void; SvenMagnussen

Sven, in re the SS#, I have been hearing about this “Connecticut Catholic Social Services” connection, most lately from you. Real? Not Real?


25 posted on 07/05/2012 10:19:45 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and FU Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Sherman Logan
But I really doubt the US Constitution has anything at all to say about SS#s with regard to eligibility.

You are correct. The phrase "social security number" does not appear in the text of the US Constitution.

So I guess we should all go back to bed.

26 posted on 07/05/2012 10:20:56 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
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To: drypowder
It's a crime to use a fraudulent SSN and there is not a POS in DC that will do anything to this criminal. So, this dictator will just go on about his goal of destroying the US.
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In any other time, when truth and logic controlled events, we would be justified in celebrating the filing of this legal challenge. However, our country is now LAWLESS, totally lawless, I say. Common sense, truth, law, and logic are out the window. We know the objective those who will hear this case will reach before they even get the case. They will reach Obama’s objective to save their ass, their knee caps and/or their heads. I haven't found a single courageous jurist in the whole lot up to this point (I do not count the Supreme Ct four dissenters since their decision is not controlling and they knew it when they signed it). I no longer look for any jurists to save this country. There simply is no jurist who is concerned about anything (including their country) but their own personal hide. Very few heroes anymore and even fewer in the ranks of so called judges.
27 posted on 07/05/2012 10:21:14 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: Minutemen

Romney can win...and he might...but then where are we?


28 posted on 07/05/2012 10:21:49 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: Smokeyblue

I worked as a claims rep for Social Security for a year and a half.

It is true that Social Security numbers, the first three digits did tell where you lived when you applied for a number. We had a chart which showed each number and where they originated.

At one time the middle two were always even except for 1-10. I think so many were issued that they changed that some time ago.

The last four were simply random.


29 posted on 07/05/2012 10:23:06 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Sherman Logan
Look up "Harrison J. Bounell", an alias of Obama (how many presidents have had an alias, or several in the case of Obama?). The only reason people use phony/stolen SSN#'s is for nefarious purposes.
30 posted on 07/05/2012 10:23:29 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: kjo

“I think many are afraid of ending up like Vince Foster.”

Or Donald Young, gay choir director at Jeremiah Wright, Jr.’s “Trinity Church Chicago”.

Or Andrew Breitbart.

Or the assistant coroner who was part of Breitbart’s autopsy.

Or Leiutenant (I think is how he spelled it) Quayles Harris (might have his name slightly wrong).


31 posted on 07/05/2012 10:24:02 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Smokeyblue

I wonder why nobody has charged nancy pelosi with treason using sheriff joe’s fraudulant doc. affidaved?. seems to me under treason, would grant a dicovery...


32 posted on 07/05/2012 10:26:41 AM PDT by chicken head
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To: Smokeyblue

Let me try again:

Obama’s maternal grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-time employee in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse. As such she would have access to the estate files of anyone who died in Hawaii.

This is what we know of Jean Paul Ludwig, the man with the social security # that Ubama now uses.

In 1924 Ludwig worked for Senator Reed of PA in Washington DC

Jean Paul Ludwig had been in the U.S. for 3 years in 1924, but he was listed on the “Immigration” manifest and referred to an an alien in the column headings.

Length of time alien intends to remain in the U.S. - Always

Height: 5’5” Complexion: Dk Hair: Brn Eyes: Brn

Place of birth: Ammersville, France

Age of arrival: 34 Gender: M Marital Status: S

Date of arrival: Aug 12, 1924

Ship of travel: Leviathan

Port of departure: Cherbourg, France

Birth date: 17 Feb 1890
Zip code of last residence: 96816 Honolulu Hi.
Death date: June 1981
Estimated age at death: 91

http://www.politicalforum.com/other-miscellaneous/176759-revealed-obamas-ct-social-security-traced-john-paul-ludwig-lived-ct-died-hi.html


33 posted on 07/05/2012 10:26:45 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: mountainlion

Ousted POLITICO reporter pleads guilty to assaulting ex-wife...

Obama’s Social Security Number challenged...

‘American story’ faces fresh scrutiny...

Fate of detainees is early test for Egyptian leader...


34 posted on 07/05/2012 10:26:45 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Not everything that is wrong is therefore unconstitutional.

The Constitution does not say, for instance, that convicted mass murderers or traitors are ineligible for the presidency, on the possibly inaccurate assumption that the voters would never elect such a person.

As it is, AFAIK, Charles Manson is eligible for the office. Can’t vote, in most states, but I think he could be elected president, as far as the Constitution is concerned, anyway. He might be ineligible to be on the ballot in some states. Although a TX incarcerated felon was on the Dem primary in WV and got a bunch of votes.


35 posted on 07/05/2012 10:27:11 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: kjo

36 posted on 07/05/2012 10:28:37 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: kjo

Better off than we are now. But the thing that’s most important is winning the Senate. We need to start focusing on that.


37 posted on 07/05/2012 10:30:34 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: ClearCase_guy

excellent


38 posted on 07/05/2012 10:30:43 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Smokeyblue
Now this is what I'd call Asymmetric Politics, which is really nothing more than exposing the truth... but the reason I call it Asymmetric is because the conventional wisdom says "don't go there, or you'll get the independents to switch" or "you'll draw the racist card down on our heads". Everyone is scared sh!tless to go nuclear... I say, "go Asymmetric, gal, kick their ass"... were else do we go anyway?!?
39 posted on 07/05/2012 10:34:26 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Smokeyblue

There must be some person in this country currently in prison for using an invalid SSN and Felony Tax Fraud.

They would have quite a case for some equal protection type defense.

Lord Monckton in his video segments posted on earlier threads makes the point that criminal defendants would have the ever elusive STANDING.


40 posted on 07/05/2012 10:35:13 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Kenny Bunk

Never have seen him post anything to support the repeated assertions.


41 posted on 07/05/2012 10:38:13 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Sherman Logan

They nailed Al Capone on tax evasion.

How many law enforcement agents did Capone murder compared to Obama’s tally of Fast+Furious murders?

This filthy moslem communist criminal is dirtier than Capone.

And his paper trail proves it.

Capone never betrayed the United States.

That’s a hint why Omoslem’s stolen SS# is important.


42 posted on 07/05/2012 10:38:32 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’m not expressing myself very clearly, and I apologize for that.

Many Americans, mostly but not exclusively on the left, react to anything they think is wrong or inappropriate by deciding it is therefore unconstitutional.

The problem with this notion is that our Constitution is, by purpose, a quite limited document. It has little or nothing to say about most issues. It was not intended to be a “fundamental law” replacing the details of the common law. It was by intent basically a rule book for how decisions would be made by the people’s reps, not a definition of what those decisions would be.

The Constitution says nothing about abortion, so leftists succeeded in getting the Court to go into mystical mode and find abortion to be a constitution right, as outlined in the previously unsuspected penumbras and emanations visible only to themselves. Similar approaches have taken entire aspects of potential legislation off the table by making them constitutional issues.

This is bad news, for our government and for the Constitution. Trying to make it do everything just means it can’t do what it was set up to do, provide that framework within which the people make decisiions. Instead, all decision will be made by unelected, lifetime tenure judges, as they are the only ones who can interpret the Constitution.

If that’s what you want, try to get judges to find some contortion by which misuse of a SS# makes a candidate for president ineligible for the office. You won’t find any such judge of course, but if you did it would be another nail in the coffin of the real Constitution..

End rant.


43 posted on 07/05/2012 10:38:45 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Engedi

I don’t think he is allowed to work in the US if his SS# is fraudulent.


44 posted on 07/05/2012 10:40:04 AM PDT by expat2
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To: A'elian' nation
Snopes has pretty much demolished the Ludwig story
45 posted on 07/05/2012 10:40:56 AM PDT by kabar
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To: LyinLibs
I never said it was unimportant.

I asked if anyone could demonstrate why it was unconstitutional.

Can you?

We've had four years now, and AFAIK not one of the 50 states has made proof of eligibility a prerequisite for being on its presidential ballot. All we needed was one state, and we couldn't come up with that.

46 posted on 07/05/2012 10:43:04 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: F15Eagle

Can you expound on this? What is the significance of A,B,C, etc.


47 posted on 07/05/2012 10:47:55 AM PDT by expat2
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To: Smokeyblue

Sigh. 38 comments and not a single one skeptical (that I could find, anyway.) Check snopes.com and you’ll get a quite rational explanation for why Obama could have ended up with a SS number that looks like it was intended for Connecticut.

Short version: Since the early 70’s, Zip Codes have been used and yes, the first 3 numbers identified the state, but all it would take is mistyping, or misreading, or just sloppily writing, the first number of Obama’s zip code, which is something like 98164, and inputting (for any one of the 3 reasons cited above) 08164, and out would pop a Connecticut SS number.

Now, that might not have happened, but, geez, people should at least consider the possibility, especially when the source is WND. This is very likely tin-foil hat material.

Incidentally, Snopes also addresses the dead guy who’s number Obama supposedly had pilfered on his behalf. Let’s beat the guy with stuff he’s really done, or attempted. There’s certainly plenty of legitimate material out there.


48 posted on 07/05/2012 10:48:56 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Smokeyblue

I assume this means he’s also here illegally. Look for an executive order pardon for all illegal immigrants born the same year as him and citizenship will be retro-active.

Also, look for an executive order making EVERYONE eligible to run for president...retro-active, of course. He could do this and the republicans would strongly object and may even write a letter or two.

He’s gotten his way with every EO he’s written, so, why not a few more.


49 posted on 07/05/2012 10:50:35 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Exceptionally well-thought-out, well-stated, and vitally important to consider. Thank you.


50 posted on 07/05/2012 10:52:00 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Barack O'Bunga--America's first gay president...")
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