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Judge: Zimmerman was going to jump bail with other people’s money [B.S. Reasoning]
Miami Herald ^ | 7/5/12 | Frances Robles

Posted on 07/06/2012 5:43:24 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

A judge said Thursday that George Zimmerman appeared to be preparing to flee when he transferred funds out of his name just before his bond hearing, but his plan was “thwarted.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bail; banglist; ccw; georgezimmerman; holderspeople; race; rkba; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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The judge has it in for GZ. The innocent until proven guilty George cannot afford such a high bond. So for now he has to stay in jail.

Bullcrap.

1 posted on 07/06/2012 5:43:37 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
no doubt....this judge is being paid......

Remember, it's not the judge we started with...

Zimmerman shouldn't have EVER been in jail.

2 posted on 07/06/2012 5:47:14 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SoFloFreeper

How does the judge KNOW this? I certainly did not pick that up in the tapes that were played...sure they were cashing out money this family is not a family of Mitt Romney business savvy folks...they were plain blue collar working folk who needed money to live and stay in hiding etc.
I think Mr OMara would do well to try to get another judge as he did earlier before they got Lester. This judge sounds like hes predjudiced against Zimmerman.
Here is my understanding of what happened. At some point during the fight Trayvon spotted George’s gun in its waistband holster at that point...whomever got control of the gun ended the fight. George won. Justifiable self defense...
freegards
LEX


3 posted on 07/06/2012 5:49:04 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: SoFloFreeper
And where might he ‘flee’ to, the moon? This guy's gonna have a hard time ‘fleeing’ anywhere even after he's acquitted.
4 posted on 07/06/2012 5:51:25 AM PDT by The FIGHTIN Illini (Choootem Lizabith Chooootem)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

The depraved prosecutor owns the judge.


5 posted on 07/06/2012 5:54:37 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SoFloFreeper

Staying in jail may be the best thing that could happen to Zimmerman. He has tomahawked himself playing hide-and-seek with the money and passport. I think that he’s his own worst enemy. In jail, it costs him nothing, he’s safe, and opportunities for him to do something to make his legal situation worse are at a minimum.


6 posted on 07/06/2012 5:58:36 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: SoFloFreeper
Does the judge have any evidence for this theory?

Can this judge possibly be seen as impartial by anyone?

Oh, I guess that's the point. We don't want an impartial judge. We want to be safe from civil unrest.

7 posted on 07/06/2012 6:02:29 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“It is entirely reasonable for this court to find that, but for the requirement that he be placed on electronic monitoring, the defendant and his wife would have fled the United States with at least $130,000 of other people’s money.”
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It is not other peoples money—it is Zimmerman’s money. It was a gift freely given. The judge makes it appear that Zimmerman stole the money.


8 posted on 07/06/2012 6:03:01 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Dumb judge....The blacks would hunt Zimmerman down like he was a cougar and lynch him.


9 posted on 07/06/2012 6:04:50 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SoFloFreeper

I wouldn’t blame him for jumping bail. A person is under no obligation to allow himself to be lynched.


10 posted on 07/06/2012 6:06:05 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
This judge would be as much at home in Hitler's "Judicial Corps" as would the evil Angela Corey.


11 posted on 07/06/2012 6:06:49 AM PDT by montag813
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To: SoFloFreeper

With this kind of corruption in Florida, there is NO CHANCE Florida will be allowed to go Republican in a presidential election!


12 posted on 07/06/2012 6:08:54 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: SoFloFreeper

So, GZ- who has cooperated 100% with police every step of the way, including coming to police any time he was assked, staying in constant contact with them and even coming in on his own to be arrested- was suddenly going to skip town?

based on what evidence?

or did the judge just pull this out of his ass?


13 posted on 07/06/2012 6:09:20 AM PDT by Mr. K (OBAMA MUST BE STOPPED ROMNEY/GINGRICH)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Then why didn’t he? He had every opportunity to do so yet he immediately surrendered himself once bail was revoked. This is one of the most biased, a** covering statements I’ve ever heard from the bench. That this excuse was invented after the fact is so obvious it’s really quite breathtaking.


14 posted on 07/06/2012 6:21:46 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Clara Lou
He has tomahawked himself playing hide-and-seek with the money and passport. I think that he’s his own worst enemy.

I agree, but he shouldn't be in jail. He wouldn't be in jail if it weren't for the nationwide efforts of Holder's people and Obama's sons to do a lynching for political purposes.

15 posted on 07/06/2012 6:23:15 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

When it is said he had a “second” passport, is that a Peruvian passport? I hope so.

None the less, when this is over and done with, he will become a zillionair after he wins all his lawsuits.


16 posted on 07/06/2012 6:23:35 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Irenic

“It is entirely reasonable for this court to find that, but for the requirement that he be placed on electronic monitoring, the defendant and his wife would have fled the United States with at least $130,000 of other people’s money.”
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Yes Judge, and I am sure green monkeys could fly out of his backside too in your demented reasoning.


17 posted on 07/06/2012 6:24:03 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Time to send George some more money.

I wouldn't blame him if he ran from the lynch mob.

18 posted on 07/06/2012 6:25:16 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Sacajaweau

when is this judge up for reelection?

He is a mere state court judge, they face the voters and challengers every 6 years.

It is just a question of finding a challenger.

The bond should be appealed.

(btw if it is true the defense attorney is anti-SYG then that is a future issue for ineffective assistance of counsel)


19 posted on 07/06/2012 6:31:09 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SoFloFreeper

And the judge has what evidence?

Prejudicial comments from the judge. Time to ask for a replacement.


20 posted on 07/06/2012 6:32:54 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Time to send George some more money.
I wouldn't blame him if he ran from the lynch mob.

If Z man skipped bail, I would happily aid, abet, and harbor him.

21 posted on 07/06/2012 6:35:39 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (I'll take over the Mormon over the Moron any day!)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

A lot of people mindlessly called it here a few weeks ago with their screams of SKIMMING.

Stupid racist Hussein Head freaks SEEK OUT their “wisdom” from ABCCBSCNNNBCFOX/AP.


22 posted on 07/06/2012 6:40:11 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: SoFloFreeper; mickie; flaglady47
The judge is biased, making him corrupt in regards to his judicial oath and responsibility. He presented ZILCH evidence to back up his wild and presumptive claim that Mr. Z was going to "jump bail with other people's money".

It is established in law that "defamation" is the use of damaging lies about someone utilizing the spoken form of slander.

This kangaroo-court judge is obviously influenced and reassured by the example of the U.S. president who breaks, bends, twists and ignores laws and the Constitution at will....and no one seems to be able to stop him.

To sum up, IMHO this aggressively-biased Florida judge is apparently GUILTY of blatant defamation against the defendant.....and appears strongly motivated to TAINT a potential jury pool with said defamation. Next case.

Leni

23 posted on 07/06/2012 6:41:38 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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Then why set bail at any amount?


24 posted on 07/06/2012 6:55:26 AM PDT by vollmond (I'm an issues voter. If you're a Democrat, I've got issues.)
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To: MinuteGal

Why doesn’t the judge step aside and let Ben Crump be the judge who tries the case? He seems to take all of his rulings from Crump anyway.


25 posted on 07/06/2012 7:07:05 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I think Zimmerman is being railroaded, too. There is not one branch of government that isn’t tainted...Judicial being the worst. One good thing, betcha’ break ins are at an all time low in that Sanford neighborhood. Fight back, people!


26 posted on 07/06/2012 7:23:15 AM PDT by kiltie65 (ui)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Zimmerman has a strong case for a new judge...


27 posted on 07/06/2012 7:32:18 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Verginius Rufus

Sounds like it doesn’t it?


28 posted on 07/06/2012 7:32:53 AM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: jjotto

Now you are beginning to see the light.


29 posted on 07/06/2012 7:42:23 AM PDT by sport
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To: kiltie65

This is all happening to keep the mob from burning Miami to the ground. Justice is no part of it.


30 posted on 07/06/2012 7:48:33 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Zimmerman ain't winning any lawsuits. Zimmerman's ass is going to prison to placate Holder's people and too many of those on this forum. Not necessarily for what he did, because he violated no law. Yes, he stupidly ran his mouth on tape, but, fortunately or unfortunately, there is no law against being stupid. But, in Zimmerman's case, they will probably make one.

In Zimmerman's case, he is in trouble because of who he did it to. To wit: One of obama's sons and Holder's people. Someone, actually a lot of someonmes, need to thank Zimmerman because he saved them from becomming Martin's victim and losing among other things, their life. But that is just my view. The lynch Zimmerman mob has a different point of view.

31 posted on 07/06/2012 7:53:32 AM PDT by sport
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To: Sacajaweau

Is he eligible for Habeas Corpus?


32 posted on 07/06/2012 8:20:48 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist or Patriot)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Judge Lester writes: “It is entirely reasonable for this court to find that, but for the requirement that he be placed on electronic monitoring, the defendant and his wife would have fled the United States with at least $130,000 of other people’s money.”

Judge Lester is an amazing psychic and clairvoyant. He was able without any testimony or evidence presented by the state to find this "reasonable" conclusion.

Where and how far were these two people supposed to have fled to with $130,000??? Is he for real??? and his parents and grandmother would be losing the homes that they put up as collateral.

And yet, despite all the evidence for GZ's self defense claim that was presented to the court on the 29th that he acknowledged that he looked at, he was unable to reach any kind of finding. Really??? This defendant has the facts and law on his side -- that should have been the finding -- and thus he is not likely to run.

What is so hard about telling the truth, your honor??? Aren't you under oath too???

33 posted on 07/06/2012 8:30:36 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: vollmond

I have a feeling that if somehow Zimmerman does manage to make bail, Crump will find some new complaint and a week or two later the judge will revoke the bail again. They aren’t sure that they will manage to convict him (despite the jury-tampering) so they want him to spend two or three years behind bars before the trial.


34 posted on 07/06/2012 8:39:31 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: SoFloFreeper

So there are three major wins for the pro-Trayvon crowd here. First, the judge says things designed to dry up Zimmermans donation pool. Second, the judge says things designed to taint the potential jury pool. Third, the judge sets a bail designed to pauperize Zimmerman and deny him the defense he’s entitled to.

There are two possibilites. One, the judge is corrupt and trying to set Zimmerman up for a quick and easy conviction. Two, the judge is corrupt AND a coward and doing these things in an effort to get himself removed from the case.


35 posted on 07/06/2012 8:41:34 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
If this whole saga wasn't 100% politically-driven from the get-go, this judge, Kenneth R. Lester, would have already been removed from the case. His bias is quite apparent.

Zimmerman has become a political football, driven by the worst brand of politics -- those of race. "Justice", whatever that is, has already gone right out the window.

A lesson for all CCW holders who end up successfully defending themselves against one of "Obama's sons".

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

36 posted on 07/06/2012 8:49:20 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: tanknetter

Seems to me that many of the judge’s comments could ramp up the donations to Zimmerman.


37 posted on 07/06/2012 8:53:34 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Joe Brower
If this whole saga wasn't 100% politically-driven from the get-go, this judge, Kenneth R. Lester, would have already been removed from the case.

Just another Lefty racist who hates Hispanics.

38 posted on 07/06/2012 9:03:21 AM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

There is no more justic ein this country.

Did you see what the Supreme Court did?

Zimmerman is screwed.


39 posted on 07/06/2012 9:06:03 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

<>I have a feeling that if somehow Zimmerman does manage to make bail, Crump will find some new complaint and a week or two later the judge will revoke the bail again.<>

There is good reason for that feeling and it is right in here, where the judge greenlights the state to charge GZ for misrepresenting funds after which he will do his part and revoke bond.

http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/SKMBT_363-V12070510360.pdf


40 posted on 07/06/2012 9:36:44 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
The judge appears to be saying that GZ has presented no evidence he acted in self-defense. Does that mean that the photos and other evidence O'Mara introduced at the hearing are meaningless as far as the judge is concerned?

It appears that the only chance for acquittal is if GZ can get a different judge--this one is determined to have him found guilty. Restricting him to Seminole County doesn't give him a lot of places to hide from people wanting to collect the bounty the NBPP announced. At 308 square miles it's one of the smallest counties in Florida.

41 posted on 07/06/2012 9:50:32 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: kiltie65
I think Zimmerman is being railroaded, too. There is not one branch of government that isn’t tainted...Judicial being the worst. One good thing, betcha’ break ins are at an all time low in that Sanford neighborhood. Fight back, people!

Admirable sentiments, but I think that the message clearly being sent by our Overlords is that fighting back against the ferals will cost you everything you have, possibly including your life. Have a nice day!

I, for one, welcome our new Loving Overlords, they know what is best for us. Trust in the government. /.

42 posted on 07/06/2012 9:52:03 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
The judge noted in his ruling that Zimmerman even lied to his attorney by suggesting he could not pay for his defense.

Lester, is that the same attorney who said that his fees were likely to reach a million dollars??? So his suggestion was not a lie but was right on, wasn't it???

43 posted on 07/06/2012 9:52:23 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Joe Brower

Kenneth R. Lester sounds like a secular, progressive, fool. He should be part of the 0bama regime...who knows, he might be. :):)


44 posted on 07/06/2012 10:24:55 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Although Judge Lester said he suspected Zimmerman was going to flee, the state did not prove its argument that Zimmerman should have no bond. The judge made his decision based on prior case law in which bond terms were violated.

That's what the hearing was all about -- whether GZ had done anything while out on release or even in the bond hearing to justify bond revocation. If the state did not prove it, then the revocation of bond on June 1st was wrong.

If the state's argument failed for the hearing on the 29th, then it fails for the 1st of June as well. That means that the terms of the April 20th bond should be reinstated, not reinvented. Judge Lester needs to read his own order and plug his brain into it. He has reached a faulty conclusion.

45 posted on 07/06/2012 10:27:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Verginius Rufus
He acknowledged the evidence and that he looked at it, but he listed no "finding" as to what the evidence meant. I'd be willing to bet that it did influence his decision to grant bail, but he won't admit it in writing.

The judge has definitely put his life in danger with this ruling. His attorney should appeal it. He might be better off in jail rather than trying to meet these new restrictions.

46 posted on 07/06/2012 10:35:20 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: SoFloFreeper

Whatever happened to the cretins who put bounties out?

Judge the state by who they are judging.


47 posted on 07/06/2012 11:38:16 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Whatever happened to the cretins who put bounties out?

Judge the state by who they are judging.


48 posted on 07/06/2012 11:39:19 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: longtermmemmory

He has always run unopposed.


49 posted on 07/06/2012 11:50:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Joe Brower
If this whole saga wasn't 100% politically-driven from the get-go, this judge, Kenneth R. Lester, would have already been removed from the case. His bias is quite apparent. Zimmerman has become a political football, driven by the worst brand of politics -- those of race. "Justice", whatever that is, has already gone right out the window. A lesson for all CCW holders who end up successfully defending themselves against one of "Obama's sons".

Can't argue with anything you said, but I would wager the piece of crap judge is also anti-second amendment. The whole deal makes me glad to be in Mississippi (transplanted New York Yankee since 1986) because it is highly unlikely the same sort of travesty would be carried out here.

50 posted on 07/06/2012 12:49:02 PM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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