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Disability Ranks Outpace New Jobs In Obama Recovery [OUTRAGEOUS]
IBD ^ | July 6, 2012 | JOHN MERLINE

Posted on 07/06/2012 10:21:36 AM PDT by upchuck

More workers joined the federal government's disability program in June than got new jobs, according to two new government reports, a clear indicator of how bleak the nation's jobs picture is after three full years of economic recovery.

The economy created just 80,000 jobs in June, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday. But that same month, 85,000 workers left the workforce entirely to enroll in the Social Security Disability Insurance program, according to the Social Security Administration.

The disability ranks have outpaced job growth throughout President Obama's economic recovery. While the economy has created 2.6 million jobs since June 2009, fully 3.1 million workers signed up for disability benefits.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: disability; fail; jobs; obamanomics; recovery; ssdi; ssi; unemployment
This is just outrageous! SSI is the new welfare. Unemployment benefits running out? No prob, just apply for SSI.

Fortunately, there's about a two year wait to have your case heard so I suppose that discourages some folks.

Fraud is rampant in this program.

1 posted on 07/06/2012 10:21:40 AM PDT by upchuck
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To: upchuck
"...Fraud is rampant in this program..."

Boy. I sure am glad they passed ObamaCare, so now we can be sure there will be very little fraud in medicine. I mean, they are writing something like 13,000 more pages of regulations, and hiring thousands of IRS investigators to oversee it, plus all the new people they hire to battle fraud.

I really do feel so much better.

/Sugar

2 posted on 07/06/2012 10:28:07 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: upchuck

I have been experiencing some foot trouble and looked online for a support to aid in walking while the doctor figures out what is wrong. The day after I accessed the information I recieved 3 emails regarding “how to” get on disability. I was more than a little surprised. It looks like disability is looking for people instead of the other way around. sad.


3 posted on 07/06/2012 10:30:04 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: upchuck

yes ..fraud is rampant ...who can stop it. ???


4 posted on 07/06/2012 10:30:18 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: upchuck

Yeah, but Obama says that the jobs report is a “step in the right direction”.

You CANNOT make this stuff up!

If the number of people going on disability is HIGHER than the number of new jobs, does ANYONE, even the most rabid democrat think that this is sustainable? Or that people are going to magically get...uhhh..”better” when the economy picks up?

If you took today’s news through a time machine to the 1960’s or 70’s, the people who read it would have to assume that WW III had taken place, and we somehow lost!


5 posted on 07/06/2012 10:32:04 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: upchuck

It used to be that the lawyers around here ran adverts on tv ambulance chasing car wrecks.

Now they’re all looking for Social Security disability clients.

“You’ve paid into the system all your working life, now it’s time to collect the benefits you deserve”

“No fees until your case is resolved”


6 posted on 07/06/2012 10:33:05 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: marstegreg

Government agencies are actively promoting, awarding and praising people who enroll more people for government assistance.

I really do believe Cloward-Piven principles are being followed. I really do.


7 posted on 07/06/2012 10:39:32 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: upchuck

I think we should all get in touch with our “inner disability” and start collecting benefits. The sooner this rotten tree falls to the ground, the better.


8 posted on 07/06/2012 10:40:08 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: nascarnation

“Now they’re all looking for Social Security disability clients.”

I have seen BILLBOARDS.


9 posted on 07/06/2012 10:40:18 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: upchuck

Yea try and eek out a living when the doctors say you can’t work 1000 dollars a month ain’t crap when your used to making 4000 a month just because you cant read the cover on the book don’t mean it should be burned !


10 posted on 07/06/2012 10:46:30 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: The Antiyuppie

If you turn on Jerry Springer, Steve Wilkos, Kardashian re-runs, or any of the daytime garbage shows you’ll find these commercials are rampant.

Since it’s gotten so hot outside, I’ve been using a treadmill in the basement, I have a little tv down there and surf past these shows looking for something to pass the time.


11 posted on 07/06/2012 10:46:38 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: upchuck

Check this link that explains it.

http://atwatermerced912ers.com/2012/03/04/see-any-gray-hair/


12 posted on 07/06/2012 10:51:05 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: upchuck

Yes, it is a travesty. My mom and step dad had lived on it for like 20 years simply for being manic-depressive. O boy...


13 posted on 07/06/2012 10:53:30 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: upchuck

As someone who has been disabled from birth; I wonder just how many of these people are actually disabled?


14 posted on 07/06/2012 10:53:49 AM PDT by Jean2
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To: upchuck

8 million people on Federal disability?

thats 2% of the entire US population

1 out of every 50 people is a federal employee, and sitting home collecting disability

Is there a reward for finding diability fraud? this sounds like a target rich environmnet


15 posted on 07/06/2012 10:54:29 AM PDT by Mr. K (OBAMA MUST BE STOPPED ROMNEY/GINGRICH)
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To: rlmorel
Government agencies are actively promoting, awarding and praising people who enroll more people for government assistance.

The IRS is in on the game. The "Earned Income Tax Credit" homepage looks like an advertising site for a charity.

16 posted on 07/06/2012 10:54:52 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: upchuck

So we lose taxpayers and have a gain in tax recipients. Anyone think we can keep going on this way?


17 posted on 07/06/2012 10:55:09 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: upchuck

“Crazy checks” have been around for years.

I know someone getting one for well over a year because they’re depressed over a friend’s death.

She’s off to Europe on vacation now.

good times...


18 posted on 07/06/2012 10:55:55 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

According the the SS web site, my disability benefit would be $2442 a month. If you have another couple of thousand in investment income, or long-term disability insurance through your employer, you could live pretty nicely.


19 posted on 07/06/2012 10:56:24 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: upchuck

In California the new ambulance chasers are lawyers petioning the government for a client’s right to disability checks, then taking 25% of their settlement. Several of my able-bodied friends have now “retired”. I should say my “ex-friends.”


20 posted on 07/06/2012 10:59:10 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: rlmorel

“...and hiring thousands of IRS investigators to oversee it”

not quite....thousands to thoroughly raid, clean , and thieve from the productive whatever they can to continue issuing those disability certs!!!


21 posted on 07/06/2012 10:59:42 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: rlmorel

I really do believe Cloward-Piven principles are being followed. I really do.

I believe you are spot on. Once your eyes are open to it, you see it happening everywhere. We cannot live through 4 more years of this.


22 posted on 07/06/2012 11:00:51 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: TurboZamboni

Mrs. P. Henry is disabled by any definition. And not one of these touchy-feely, hard to prove mental disabilities, but real, honest-to-goodness, significant pain for which she requires constant, heavy duty medication. She also is covered by disability insurance that would pay her a handsome sum if she were to claim disability. However, she has too much pride and ambition and too great a sense of responsibility to go that route. Most people in our country used to be like her. Nor any more.


23 posted on 07/06/2012 11:03:31 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: upchuck
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24 posted on 07/06/2012 11:05:45 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: upchuck

Sorry, but this can’t actually be blamed on zero.

Go back to the 1990’s when clintoon “ended welfare.” What he actually did was greatly expand the definition of disability. All of the people they “took off the welfare rolls” actually just went to disability.

And the trend still continues.


25 posted on 07/06/2012 11:08:31 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Jean2

I wonder how many of these people are baby boomers with physical type jobs that they can’t do anymore. I always go ballistic when I hear some DC type glibly talk about raising the SS retirement age to 70, like everybody has some nice secure desk job where they can work to whatever age they want. They clearly don’t know a lot of waitresses or carpenters.


26 posted on 07/06/2012 11:08:51 AM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: upchuck

Sounds like the newly unemployed should apply for SSI right away so their 2-year wait will be covered by 2 years of unemployment.


27 posted on 07/06/2012 11:10:37 AM PDT by citizen (It's no longer Obamacare. It's Robertscare now. He wanted it, he bought it, he owns it.)
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To: upchuck
Seems like every other person (many of them fairly young) I run into here in the People's Socialist Republik of Connecticut is either on some kind of Disability or is a retired State of CT worker. Lots of traffic out on the roads during weekdays compared to 20 or so years ago...

DEFINITELY outrageous.

28 posted on 07/06/2012 11:12:53 AM PDT by nutmeg (I'm with Sarah Palin: Anybody But Obama 2012)
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To: All

Can't post anything more clear then this.

29 posted on 07/06/2012 11:15:44 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: upchuck; All
I hope you never have to go to SSI disability.

That said, I am disabled and have applied. The problem for me is that I can't afford to go to the number of Doctors needed to affirm it. As much as I have tried I see no way I'll ever get it.

I really don't know how all these people qualified...but for me, I haven't.

Stay healthy and if not, well, be prepared to jump through hoops you can't begin to imagine, and then be turned down.

I'm 61, and have paid into the "system" since I was 14. I'm not trying to get "free" shit from anyone.

FMCDH(BITS)

30 posted on 07/06/2012 11:20:52 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: upchuck

I thought the WH put Slow Joe in charge of rooting out all of the fraud & waste in the government?! /s


31 posted on 07/06/2012 11:24:18 AM PDT by mellow velo (Oxymorons: jumbo shrimp, rap music, liberal think-tank)
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To: rlmorel
I really do believe Cloward-Piven principles are being followed. I really do.

How could you say that? Just because all the things they called for are happening, doesn’t mean that they cause it.</sarcasm>

Sadly, people can't seem to see Bible Prophecy unfolding either.

32 posted on 07/06/2012 11:24:51 AM PDT by itsahoot (The Political Elites are the modern Royals, and the king shall have his due.)
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To: upchuck
Could this be a finagling of the unemployment numbers to keep that figure low by not counting these newly disabled workers?

Could it also be a way to keep paying these unemployed after their jobless benefits ran out?

33 posted on 07/06/2012 11:38:13 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: upchuck

I enjoy watching Judge Judy in the afternoons while my kids are napping. I am always amazed at the total losers ‘on disability’ that appear before her. When asked the nature of their disability, they mumble some mumbo jumbo that they themselves don’t even believe. Most are completely able-bodied adults who appear to be fine.


34 posted on 07/06/2012 11:50:11 AM PDT by AUJenn
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To: upchuck

the bar was also lowered under el Jorge Boosh.


35 posted on 07/06/2012 11:50:23 AM PDT by Gasshog (Tragically,Obama ate the blue dog...)
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To: nothingnew

FMCDH(BITS)

The SSI Disability system is nothing more than a lawyer employment routine.

Talking with someone who works within the SS, initial claims are ALWAYS rejected. Re-application is routine, six to eight months was the norm with the attorney taking 40% of that amount. The attorneys DONT WANT anybody getting it on the first pass, cause they can’t get a massive rake out of the first payment. Federal law is written to insure these lawyers get their extortion.


36 posted on 07/06/2012 11:57:17 AM PDT by George from New England (Ecaped CT in 2006, moved to north of Siberia)
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To: proxy_user

Nope as soon as Obama got elected they shut our facility down it was a major military facility so they sold it to the Italians and kicked us all out 10 years down the toilet then the doc said no more work i get the minimum all i got was severance thank god i cashed my 401k before he squeezed it to death !


37 posted on 07/06/2012 12:11:12 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: nothingnew

Your not alone...

My wife has a laundry list of physical issues and a few minor mental problems (read my post history for more info)

If not for the fact that I can produce a income while this whole mess plays out she would be screwed.

I have seen the statements from the insurance company for the care and tests shes been given to help prove this case...

No way in heck I could pay out of pocket for that.

I take it you can’t qualify for Medicaid?


38 posted on 07/06/2012 12:35:28 PM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: Mr. K

I believe the number is actually several million higher when dependents are added in.


39 posted on 07/06/2012 12:36:48 PM PDT by oldm60grunt
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To: upchuck

“...a clear indicator of how bleak the nation’s jobs picture is after three full years of economic recovery.”

WTF are they referring to? Three years of “economic recovery” my black Irish arse! This is a DEPRESSION you morons! Stop drinking the owebama kool-aid and tell it like it is.


40 posted on 07/06/2012 12:37:08 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: George from New England

Right you are!

when we met with the lawyer we are using they told us if my wife was approved in less than 4 months (I think.. might have been 6) they worked for free.

I giggled when they said that and replied “so your telling me no one gets approved before then huh?”

1.5 years later.. I guess I was right :)

my wife is applying for SSDI. it’s a little different animal than SSI.


41 posted on 07/06/2012 12:40:00 PM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: AUJenn

Like I said, rampant fraud.

I interview folks like this every week as a triage interviewer at a local food bank. I am outraged on a regular basis. Fraud is rampant in food stamps also.


42 posted on 07/06/2012 1:26:04 PM PDT by upchuck (FACEBOOK... Share pointless stuff with friends you don't know. Beg for intrusion into your life.)
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To: Huskrrrr


43 posted on 07/06/2012 2:33:15 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: cableguymn
I take it you can’t qualify for Medicaid?

Yes, you can take that to the bank. I can't, but maybe you can.

All kidding aside, I do not know how to get any help with this, without spending tons of cash to get some cash back that I've paid into all my life.

"I swear Woodrow"...What the hell is an honest man to do?

FMCDH(BITS)

44 posted on 07/06/2012 3:25:09 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: George from New England
The SSI Disability system is nothing more than a lawyer employment routine.

Amen brother...and I can't afford it. For the life of me, I don't understand how ANYBODY can milk the system without already being "sitting pretty", unless I'm of the wrong color, ethnicity or religion.

I'm just a poor wayfaring stranger, because this is not my world.

FMCDH(BITS)

45 posted on 07/06/2012 3:40:45 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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