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Fort Hood suspect's lawyers discuss jury screening [Major Nidal Hasan]
Sierra Vista Herald/Review ^

Posted on 07/06/2012 5:25:33 PM PDT by SandRat

Defense Lawyers are trying corrupt the trail process.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: killer; muslim; traitor

1 posted on 07/06/2012 5:25:45 PM PDT by SandRat
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To: SandRat

trial, not trail


2 posted on 07/06/2012 5:27:57 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

Shouldn’t even be the need for a trial. He should be shot in the street outside the court house.


3 posted on 07/06/2012 5:35:32 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (The sheepdogs guard the sheep.)
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To: SandRat

Hasan can’t get a fair trial down there in Ft Hood. Gotta move the proceedings to Dearborn, Michigan — a more neutral, unbiased location.....(’


4 posted on 07/06/2012 5:36:02 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: SandRat

This is not a case of murder. It never has been. This was the act of terrorism by a traitor. If they want to play games of courts and ‘justice’, then give him the orange suit and a plane ride to Gitmo. Try him for treason there, then hang him.

Don’t force 12 officers who have sworn to defend this nation from the likes of him to sit in judgment, to listen day in and day out as he breathes, and his fellow soldiers rest in their graves from his traitorous act. There’s no chance of innocence - he shot and killed uniforms. He wasn’t targeting anyone specific, nor a specific group. Simply going after fellow soldiers with guns, in a place he knew they would be unarmed.


5 posted on 07/06/2012 5:44:44 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: SandRat

The defense will certainly do its best to exclude any officer who’s served in Iraq *or* Afghanistan,that’s for sure.I’ve been out for a long time and never ran afoul of the UCMJ so I know little about courts martial but isn’t a unanimous verdict required to pass down a death sentence?


6 posted on 07/06/2012 5:57:24 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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To: SandRat

A firing squad, not a jury. Kill him.


7 posted on 07/06/2012 6:03:15 PM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: Newbomb Turk

Should be the guest of dishonor at a Texas Necktie Party.


8 posted on 07/06/2012 6:09:44 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: tflabo
Not in Dearbornastan would acquit Hasan,
9 posted on 07/06/2012 6:11:39 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Gay State Conservative

In 20+ years serice I servered on 3 Generel Cours Martial Boards.

A General Courts Martial Board, for Death to be handed down, must all vote yes.


10 posted on 07/06/2012 6:16:50 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: kingu
There’s no chance of innocence - he shot and killed uniforms.

Seems to me that the defense would be best served by using an insanity defense.One could argue that there are certain brain injuries/disorders that might cause one to commit such an act but might absolve one of moral and/or legal responsibility.

And no,I'm not saying that's the case here.If I was on the panel the only way I'd even *consider* an insanity plea is to see an obviously abnormal brain scan or irrefutable evidence of some sort of major head trauma,etc.

11 posted on 07/06/2012 6:28:56 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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To: SandRat

Jury screening eh? Like when OJ’s lawyers “screened” the jurors for his trial? Well sure. The jury must be diverse to be fair. So their must be at least 8 muslims and 1 left-wing dhimmi in the jury for poor nidal to get a fair trial.

What the H is going on here. I’m a little confused. Is the false prophet follower nidal going to be tried in a civilian court? I thought “jury selection” only took place in civilian courts.


12 posted on 07/06/2012 6:46:25 PM PDT by CaptainKrunch (Freedom is what's fair.)
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To: CaptainKrunch
It's a General Courts Martial but the Defense Lawyers are trying to PC it and screw it up.
13 posted on 07/06/2012 6:50:14 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

No jurors required.

A six man firing squad will do fine.

Next.


14 posted on 07/06/2012 6:55:54 PM PDT by exit82
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To: exit82
I like a Texas Necktie Party.
15 posted on 07/06/2012 6:58:04 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

Any JAG oficers here? I didn’t think there was jury screening, except actual conflict of interest, in picking a military Court. There is no jury per se, in a military trial, there is “The Court”, a panel of officers (and enlisted if the defendant is enlisted and requests enlisted members, which most wisely do not) They are appointed by the convening authority, and are on special orders. The judge is there to advise the Court on the law. The head of the Court, that is the senior officer on the panel, is in charge of the proceedings.

Forget what you’ve seen on “A Few Good Men”, or any Hollywood representation of a civilian court. Military trials/courts are different than real civilian courts/trials, and even more different from the Movie/TV versions of those.

I don’t understand why they didn’t forcibly shave Hassan, and cut his hair to be within military regulations. He is still a Major in the US Army and thus still subject to military discipline. In fact he’s supposed to appear in court wearing the appropriate uniform.


16 posted on 07/06/2012 7:13:17 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
In direct violation of the UCMJ they're trying to “Obama PC” the Courts Martial.
17 posted on 07/06/2012 7:18:25 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: tflabo

Fair Trial in Texas?

Of course we can.

Let The State of Texas try him for a civilian death. Problem solved. We will save the nation a lot of BS.


18 posted on 07/06/2012 7:21:25 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: SandRat

hussein’s buddy


19 posted on 07/06/2012 7:28:19 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: kingu

Even if the charge were treason, as it should be, there would still be a trail.

Military courts are not so large as civilian juries, so I doubt there would 12 officers on the panel. Five is the minimum number for a General Court. One murder trial I just looked up had 8 members, and that may have been larger than usual, since the defendant was a Marine Corporal, and had 4 officers, two warrant officers and two enlisted members on the Court.

I was wrong about screening the members of the panel, the process is similar to the civilian courts, including pre-emptory challenges. One each for the prosecution and defense. The Judge will have to decide on an individual basis. As to a ‘change of venue”, the members of the Court are supposed to be from the same command as the convening authority, and the accused.

But either treason or just murder, the dirt bag will be found guilty. Unfortunately we’ve given up the noose and even the firing squad.. leaving the Needle. That’s too good for Hassan, but that’s what he’ll get.

I’d serve on a firing squad, but I’d have to stand in line for the honor. I’d even supply my own rifle and ammunition.. I have plenty.

I came accross an old army manual for executions. Really too bad we don’t do the rope or rifle thing anymore.


20 posted on 07/06/2012 7:29:13 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: CaptainKrunch
Is the false prophet follower nidal going to be tried in a civilian court? I thought “jury selection” only took place in civilian courts.

No there is screening a military trial, but only one pre-emptive challenge for each side. Good luck getting a military judge to rule that any juror who didn't know someone personally who was killed or wounded, or was there, is not qualified. The Panel is to be picked from the same command as the accused. A decent short explanation of a General Court Martial is at http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/l/aacmartial2.htm

21 posted on 07/06/2012 7:35:22 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

BTW, I was at Ft. Hood that day. Actually I was eating off post, but then returned and got locked in until about 8PM. Also I later, had two surgeries in the same hospital many of Hassan’s victims were taken to, including the lady civilan DoD cop who was the first to shoot at the perp, and ended up shot herself. I had the same in hospital physical therapist as she did.


22 posted on 07/06/2012 7:40:33 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

BTW, I was at Ft. Hood that day. Actually I was eating off post, but then returned and got locked in until about 8PM. Also I later, had two surgeries in the same hospital many of Hassan’s victims were taken to, including the lady civilan DoD cop who was the first to shoot at the perp, and ended up shot herself. I had the same in hospital physical therapist as she did.


23 posted on 07/06/2012 7:40:48 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Gay State Conservative
If I was on the panel the only way I'd even *consider* an insanity plea

He's a jihadist Muslim. That should go a long way to showing he's insane.

24 posted on 07/06/2012 8:40:14 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: SandRat

The ACLU trained/Islamic attorney said he wanted only dead people— or slaves of Allah to be found accepted as jury in this case.


25 posted on 07/07/2012 4:42:10 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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He's a jihadist Muslim. That should go a long way to showing he's insane.

No,that would irrefutably prove that he's utterly amoral.I'm talking about schizophrenia...major brain damage...etc.

26 posted on 07/07/2012 7:13:50 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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To: Gay State Conservative
No,that would irrefutably prove that he's utterly amoral.I'm talking about schizophrenia...major brain damage...etc.

You say to-may-to, I say to-mah-to. :)

27 posted on 07/07/2012 8:03:38 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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