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Chicago under fire: Murders rising despite decline in overall crime (soc scientists called in)
Chicago Sun Times ^ | July 7, 2012 | MARK KONKOL AND FRANK MAIN

Posted on 07/07/2012 6:03:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Police Supt. Garry McCarthy — hailed as a “Braveheart”-like folk hero after getting out on the streets and leading his troops during the NATO Summit protests in May — is on the hot seat. His key strategy — doing away with mobile strike forces, which formerly were sent out to crime hot spots, and putting more cops back on the beat — has been called a failure by some.

Now, McCarthy is preparing to roll out a new tactic.

Social scientists who have studied murder say they’ve gotten to a point where they can predict who is most likely to become a victim of homicide.

McCarthy wants to take that further. He’s laying plans to have his officers study criminals’ social networks to identify likely killers before they kill.

“It’s going to change the way we do police work,” McCarthy said.

He said other tactics he’s put in place already are paying dividends. On the West Side, for instance, in the Harrison District, the number of murders is actually down this year — by about 40 percent through the end of June.

.....Police brass will cross-reference murder victims and killers with their known associates — the people projected as most likely to be involved in future shootings.

“Hot people,” McCarthy calls them.

Those deemed most likely to commit violence will be targeted first: parolees and people who have outstanding arrest warrants.

McCarthy said his staff estimates there are 26,000 “hot people” living in Chicago.....

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: crime; profiling; publicsafety
Profiling? Who knew?
1 posted on 07/07/2012 6:04:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“It’s going to change the way we do police work,” McCarthy said.

Which, in turn, would likely change the way gangs set up hits. Not to say this is a viable option to begin with...

2 posted on 07/07/2012 6:09:52 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

LOL repeat offense rate is 70%. Parole boards can control that by who they let out...so I was told by the head of the TN Parole board during one of the 6 parole hearing we fought to keep our son’s killer in prison for as much of his pathetic 20 year plea bargain as we could get. I got begged to let him go for the last 6 months so they could ‘monitor’ him...I REFUSED and made him serve those 6 months.


3 posted on 07/07/2012 6:11:41 AM PDT by GailA (IF U donI 't/won't keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Find out who’s most likely to kill. Then, once they’ve killed, move in and make the arrest. Good, sound logic.


4 posted on 07/07/2012 6:11:47 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: bcsco
McCarthy said his staff estimates there are 26,000 “hot people” living in Chicago.....

They're in the millions, what with the temperatures we've been having this summer...

McCarthy is a big foe of the 2nd Amendment. He'd rather take guns away from law-abiding citizens than go after the gangs. And where are JJ and the Rev. Al? Oh, right, this is Black-on-Black crime. They're only interested in race baiting. What a disgusting, criminal situation we have in our inner cities.

5 posted on 07/07/2012 6:13:07 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Meanwhile, Detroit has become the justifiable homicide capitol. Think I’d rather take my chances in Detroit.


6 posted on 07/07/2012 6:14:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Democrat policies + demographics + gun ban laws = Chicago. Change any of the 3 and the problem gets better.


7 posted on 07/07/2012 6:23:26 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: Mechanicos

Social scientists? Just how are they going to help...require social science lectures each day for the criminal class. Midnight Social Studies????? ...kind of like Midnight Basketball.


8 posted on 07/07/2012 6:26:21 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They are calling in phrenologist. All people will now have the bumps on their heads read.


9 posted on 07/07/2012 6:29:31 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: hal ogen

How about midnite football

Football is widely acknowledged to be ritual war without the killing and should do wonders for quelling the killing while allowing violence and settling old scores.


10 posted on 07/07/2012 6:30:03 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: hal ogen
75 year old Detroit retiree Willie White demonstrates the proper response he used to deal with 18 year old Bronco Mosley who was breaking into White's home in the middle of the night.

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Mosley is unavailable for comment.
11 posted on 07/07/2012 6:32:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They should call in a phalanx of exorcists. Chicago is the dwelling place of Satan.


12 posted on 07/07/2012 6:33:22 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Obama, the community unorganizer.


13 posted on 07/07/2012 6:33:59 AM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: Jaidyn

Chaos works.

People beg for government help and solutions.....


14 posted on 07/07/2012 6:41:51 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Gang turf wars, if you notice it is black on black or throw in a hispanic or white gang member occasionally who gets murdered. If these thugs were shooting up the neighborhoods the liberal dandys lived in the city would be in lockdown. This dimwitted white liberal police chief is being blamed for drug sales turf battles, this “debate” is the usual posturing.


15 posted on 07/07/2012 6:48:15 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Chicago needs some gun control laws.


16 posted on 07/07/2012 6:57:30 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The people in that corrupt hellhole of a city have no way to protect themselves. The entire city is overrun by gangs and the police send 50 cars after the murder is committed drive-by hooting.
17 posted on 07/07/2012 6:57:46 AM PDT by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.")
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“...26,000 “hot people” living in Chicago...”

A WHOLE LOT MORE than that are “HOT”, in that hellhole!


18 posted on 07/07/2012 7:00:15 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: bert

Football is widely acknowledged to be ritual war without the killing and should do wonders for quelling the killing while allowing violence and settling old scores.

However, the losers will settle scores tomorrow night at midnight on south Paulina.


19 posted on 07/07/2012 7:03:18 AM PDT by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Profiling? Who knew?

No. You can be assured this new plan will prohibit profiling.

20 posted on 07/07/2012 7:03:49 AM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: txrefugee

“Chicago is the dwelling place of Satan.”

No, this would be West Hollywood. Every militant fag and liberal lives here.


21 posted on 07/07/2012 7:08:42 AM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: cripplecreek

Most of Detroit is safe.

Over the last few weeks I have ridden my bike through large parts of Detroit both day and night. I never see anyone. There is nobody there.

It is a city sized for 2+ million people with about 500K living there.. if that. I don’t even believe the 500K number. I don’t see the people. The city is miles and miles of physical and spiritual emptiness.

If you go into the neighborhoods where a lot houses still stand, gangs control things. And near the all-night clubs, those areas are quite unsafe.

The new urban open-space areas where one or two houses survive on a block seem reasonably safe.


22 posted on 07/07/2012 7:15:20 AM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: The Free Engineer

Detroit is a favored whipping boy around here but I personally think it has a much brighter future than a lot of cities that are currently in better shape. Granted they have a long way to go but they’re taking responsibility for their own protection and that’s a great start.

Strip the federal dollars away from Chicago and we’ll be smelling the smoke all the way to east Michigan inside a week.


23 posted on 07/07/2012 7:21:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Weeks ago I was listening to NPR & they had LA’s Governor, Mitch Landrieu on & he was saying how New Orleans was emulating Chicago’s excellent fight against high homicide rates. I believe I shook my head through the whole interview.


24 posted on 07/07/2012 7:30:16 AM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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NO ONE should emulate Chicago! Ha.

btw Landrieu is the Mayor of New Orleans (Jindal is the Gov).


25 posted on 07/07/2012 7:35:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Hey, Chief McCarthy. I'll make it easier for you. Here are some suggestions of what to look for and those "hot people" you need to spot. They are pretty easy to find...


26 posted on 07/07/2012 7:36:30 AM PDT by Gritty (Political correctness is no longer just annoying. It's deadly. - Lori Ziganto)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Anyone who would like a peek inside the rank and file of the CPD should read this blog...

http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com

It is fascinating. They absolutely despise both the criminals and the corrupt city leadership.

Also, I never suspected so many union cops from a Yankee metropolis would be right wing. But they are, hard core style. I guess Chicago has a way of doing that to people who don’t live in fantasy land.


27 posted on 07/07/2012 8:06:43 AM PDT by MNIL
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it's a cultural thing(or lack there of) and until the culture changes, nothing else will...
28 posted on 07/07/2012 8:31:02 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: GailA

Project Thugwalker.


29 posted on 07/07/2012 11:59:32 AM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: Paladin2

Only criminals have guns in Chicago.


30 posted on 07/07/2012 12:06:50 PM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You’re right, I knew better, I look like an ignoramus, & thanks for correcting me. Duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


31 posted on 07/07/2012 2:19:12 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: MNIL

I sent this blogspot to my brother a while back & he is addicted to it!


32 posted on 07/07/2012 2:21:45 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: txrefugee

“Chicago is the dwelling place of Satan.”
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That’s odd, I wouldn’t expect someone with so much power to settle for living in such a garbage dump.


33 posted on 07/08/2012 1:22:05 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Free healthcare is worth FAR LESS than it costs.)
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