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As blood donations decline, U.S. ban on gay donors is examined
CNN ^ | 7/6/2012 | Jen Christensen

Posted on 07/07/2012 7:29:03 AM PDT by markomalley

The American Red Cross says power outages created by recent storms in the East and Midwest cut blood donations, which were already low this summer. In June there was a nationwide shortfall, with donations down more than 10% across the country.

"We are asking people to please call 1-800-RED-CROSS or visit us at redcrossblood.org to find a way to donate if they can," said Stephanie Millian, Red Cross director of biomedical communications. "We need people's help."

One group that would like to help, but legally can't, may be moving one step closer to eligibility. Since the 1980s, when the AIDS epidemic decimated their community, gay men -- or MSMs (men who have sex with men) as they are called by federal agencies -- have not been allowed to donate blood. In June, a group of 64 U.S. legislators led by Rep. Mike Quigley, D-Illinois, and Sen. John Kerry, D-Massachusetts, sent a letter to the Department of Health and Human Services encouraging it to move forward with a study that may lead to the end of the decades-old ban.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: aids; blooddonations; bloodsupply; homosexualagenda; redcross; socialdiseases; vd
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I find it ironic that, while due to the fact that I was stationed in Europe during the 90s, I am permanently banned from donating blood, yet these Demonrats are trying to pollute the nation's blood supply with HIV-infected blood from a group of people who intentionally attempt to spread their disease.

Thinking about getting a "no transfusion" bracelet to wear. If I could just find one that didn't try to identify me as a JW...

1 posted on 07/07/2012 7:29:13 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

How about “Transfusion only from Approved Relatives?”

;-)


2 posted on 07/07/2012 7:31:57 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: markomalley
It isn't only HIV that is the problem, there is also hepatitis and sexually transmitted disease's of all types. When you have done who knows what with who knows how many people who knows how many times, you are not a good candidate for donating blood.
3 posted on 07/07/2012 7:34:28 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: markomalley
If perverts are ever allowed to give blood they must be required,by law,to disclose all perverted acts they've ever engaged in and the *only* people to be given their blood are those who've signed a 20 page consent form beforehand...a form which spells out in minute detail the perversions of the donor *and* the consequences of AIDS and Hep C.
4 posted on 07/07/2012 7:35:08 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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To: markomalley

That might increase the donation rate by about 2%


5 posted on 07/07/2012 7:35:08 AM PDT by Ceebass
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To: markomalley

I had a major operation a few years ago. My surgeon insisted that I do an autologous blood donation. He does not trust the blood supply.

If you know you are having surgery, donate your own blood.


6 posted on 07/07/2012 7:36:45 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: markomalley

Just what the world needs, SSAD blood with who knows what swimming around.

What is next, blind commercial pilots if there was a pilot shortage?

Or how about SSAD Boy Scout troop leaders.....oh wait, the destroy decency crowd have been pushing that for decades.

[SSAD=Same Sex Attraction Disorder]


7 posted on 07/07/2012 7:37:02 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: markomalley

I’ve got some used motor oil. Surely that’s better than nothing in a time of need.


8 posted on 07/07/2012 7:38:35 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: markomalley

Yikes....and the new home kit introduced last week to detect HIV infection was touted as a breakthrough because over 30% of those infected do not know it.

Very scary.


9 posted on 07/07/2012 7:40:47 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: markomalley

Democrats on a good day are pathetic.


10 posted on 07/07/2012 7:40:52 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the StatistI)
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To: markomalley
"I find it ironic that, while due to the fact that I was stationed in Europe during the 90s, I am permanently banned from donating blood,...."

My grandson was permanently banned from donating Plasma because one time when they were asking the usual questions that he could always say no to, he forgot about having his wisdom tooth pulled. So the next time he told them and they banned him FOREVER for lying to them the week before.

11 posted on 07/07/2012 7:44:23 AM PDT by Spunky
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To: markomalley

Does anyone remember the incident back in the early 80’s when AIDS was pretty new to most of us, when a homosexual on an interview show said that he and his contacts were going to give blood to get the disease into the straight community? He said, IIRC, that it was the only way the government would fund research.


12 posted on 07/07/2012 7:53:17 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of LibertyI'm st! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Our church has been holding blood drives where you donate to the person’s code. Does that blood go to the specified person, or only get credited to the amount they draw down, reducing the patient’s cost?


13 posted on 07/07/2012 7:56:14 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: JimRed

I remember when the queers were threatening to hit the blood banks in mass if some bill wasn’t passed in California.


14 posted on 07/07/2012 8:02:47 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: JimRed
” Since the 1980s, when the AIDS epidemic decimated their community, gay men — or MSMs (men who have sex with men) as they are called by federal agencies — have not been allowed to donate blood.”

Shemp Smith and Anderson Pooper deeply saddened by the MSM ( or was that MSN? blood ban).

15 posted on 07/07/2012 8:03:15 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: markomalley
>>these Demonrats Communists are trying to pollute the nation...

 

"According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
 
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
The first stage being "demoralization"... "
 
--KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov
--Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2095202/posts

16 posted on 07/07/2012 8:03:35 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: markomalley

The problem is they are going after gay person’s blood instead of trying to get the lazy people who can give blood to get off their butts and get down to the local red cross. However in your case, it is stupid to stop people stationed in Europe to not give blood...Perhaps that needs to be looked at too.


17 posted on 07/07/2012 8:07:18 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: markomalley
Another homo thread—geez!

The conservative stance on homosexuals is, “I don't give a damn if you want to carpet munch or rump reem, just keep your anti-biological immoral perversions to your own damn selves!!!”

And yet here at Free Republic, the consummate and most established conservative website there is...the homosexual agenda is promoted by keeping it in the limelight under the disingenuous scam of inviting conservative umbrage.

Ignoring the deviant Biblical abomination and shunning it's poor misguided mentally ill practitioners is the only efficacious and legal tactic that can keep the evil queers off our children, that and voting for moral laws and moral politicians.

18 posted on 07/07/2012 8:11:32 AM PDT by Happy Rain (With one horribly sick and wrong ruling, Traitor Roberts gave us a Soviet IRS.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

My son had minor surgery years ago, and my wife asked me to do an autologous donation for his surgery. I think this is a good thing to do, rather than take even a small chance of getting bad blood.

If this change goes through, will this make people have more confidence in the blood supply, or less confidence that the blood supply is safe?

Is it politically incorrect to ask that question????

Why do homosexuals all of a sudden have this strong desire to give blood in the first place????


19 posted on 07/07/2012 8:19:08 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: markomalley

They pulled the same lie to push homo foster care. Homos make up one percent of society and are not going to do anything for the blood supply but put it in danger. Same with homo foster care and adoption.

Liberals will gladly rape the kiddos and infect us all with homo disease in order to socially engineeer society around the mental illness of homos. These are people who embrace the culture of death.


20 posted on 07/07/2012 8:30:04 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Why do homosexuals all of a sudden have this strong desire to give blood in the first place????”

They figure if they can give enough “normal” people AIDS, the government will give more money to AIDS research.


21 posted on 07/07/2012 8:31:54 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Ceebass

“That might increase the donation rate by about 2%”

Yes, but it will decrease the demand by 50%!

As in, “I’d rather bleed to death than get AIDS from blood donated by homosexuals!”

The total “Supply & Demand” equation will end the shortage immediately.

BTW, the Red Cross won’t take my blood - Malaria, Dengue Fever and (food borne) Hepatitis. It’s a shame, because I have O+. Too bad they can’t sterilize it or something...


22 posted on 07/07/2012 8:41:24 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: markomalley

How in the hell does allowing 2.8% of population (Gallup, 2011) to give potentially AIDS/HIV infected blood REALLY help the Blood Reserves?!?


23 posted on 07/07/2012 8:44:15 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: OldEarlGray
Excellent thread referenced there. It is now bookmarked. Wow.
24 posted on 07/07/2012 8:51:04 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: markomalley
The infection of thousands of Canadians with the AIDS virus and hepatitis C is Canada's worst- ever preventable public health disaster.
25 posted on 07/07/2012 8:53:32 AM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: napscoordinator

I was stationed in Germany 1981-83. I gave blood immediately after 9/11. The mad cow scare came only later and I am banned `until something changes’.

And now faggies will be donating but I can’t?

Is there another blood bank out there I can donate to as a formerly deployed vet? Seriously.


26 posted on 07/07/2012 8:55:13 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!")
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To: markomalley

I find it ironic that, while due to the fact that I was stationed in Europe during the 90s, I am permanently banned from donating blood, yet these Demonrats are trying to pollute the nation’s blood supply with HIV-infected blood


Potentially HIV infected.

I’m with you!! This incenses me! For living in Switzerland, during England’s Mad Cow scare, I too am banned in the USA from giving blood FOR LIFE! I was never in England, never ate meat from there, and was pretty much vegetarian at the time anyway. Yet my blood is never to darken the donor door.

I intend to donate in Switzerland, where presumably ALL their blood would be refused by the USA, yet somehow their blood is good enough fr the Swiss.

First allow the blood of people who happened to be in Europe in the early 90s before you allow the gay blood.


27 posted on 07/07/2012 9:01:05 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: elcid1970

See my post right after yours. Maybe you can donate for wounded service people in Germany where you were stationed. This is a stupid rule.


28 posted on 07/07/2012 9:04:15 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: markomalley

And it isn’t a gay ban. The questionnaire asks men if they have ever had a sexual encounter with another man. Even one. That question kicks you out. So lesbians can donate gallons. :)


29 posted on 07/07/2012 9:06:04 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: markomalley

If only the billions of queers in this country were allowed to donate blood like they all are chomping at the bit to do, trillions of Americans could be saved. Fluking CNN. No wonder nobody watches that garbage.


30 posted on 07/07/2012 9:08:01 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare is only the beginning. It's all downhill from here.)
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To: markomalley

I think they will probably test the donors for HIV prior to taking their blood, don’t you?


31 posted on 07/07/2012 9:12:14 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: ConservativeMind

Welcome FRiend.

“I regret that I have but one screen name [at a time] to sacrifice for my county”
—LomanBill


32 posted on 07/07/2012 9:15:42 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

My sister was having surgery and asked family members to donate blood. However, we were shocked to find out that her medical insurance would not cover the costs of testing to find blood matches or reserving the blood for a specific patient. Did yours? What about medicare patients? Can they have autologous blood donations without incurring the expense?


33 posted on 07/07/2012 9:18:21 AM PDT by CitizenM (Obama - The architect of the decline of the U.S.)
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To: markomalley

As long as the gay people in question are disease free, I see no problem with them donating.


34 posted on 07/07/2012 9:22:46 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn

You first.


35 posted on 07/07/2012 9:30:54 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: markomalley

Yeah, me too. Take your pick? Mad cow or AIDS.

Probly better to just bleed out.


36 posted on 07/07/2012 9:51:20 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: freeangel
They figure if they can give enough “normal” people AIDS, the government will give more money to AIDS research.

Sadly, that idea has been seriously promulgated by the militant AIDS/gay rights crowd. When the myth of a hetero AIDS epidemic did not materialize by the 90s, they openly suggested infecting straight people in order to make AIDS a mainstream disease. Besides getting (more) money for research & treatment their theory is that they can then create the myth that AIDS is not a lifestyle caused disease and remove the stigma.

Unfortunately, because AIDS is a highly politicized disease, far more money has been thrown at it than can realistically accelerate research. Regardless of the amount of funds, this type of medical research can't be sped up past a certain point. No one is allowed to say that out loud in our society. Nonetheless, it is a fact.

And what is beyond the pale here is that this is one of the most preventable epidemics in history. Thousands of people are dying horrible deaths simply because the gay lobby has consistently blunted efforts to educate gay men as well as successfully fighting legal avenues of reducing the behavior that spreads the disease. San Francisco and gay bath houses are a prime example of that.

IMO, and this is despicable beyond words, this makes the gay lobby directly complicit in the slow painful deaths of most AIDS victims.

37 posted on 07/07/2012 9:52:06 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: stuartcr

They do test the blood for HIV (even from people with no risk factors) but that isn’t 100% effective. Apparently there is a period right after infection where the test won’t pick it up.


38 posted on 07/07/2012 10:00:21 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Delta 21
How many cases are known of someone getting mad cow disease through a blood transfusion?

Lots of people contracted AIDS because of a blood transfusion (Arthur Ashe for one).

39 posted on 07/07/2012 10:02:21 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: markomalley

Red Cross makes money from donations so it is hard to not follow the money.

Could it be that people just don’t trust the red cross?

you don’t need the red cross to donate blood.

(did anyone find the red cross 9/11 money?)


40 posted on 07/07/2012 10:04:58 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Last Dakotan

Nah, I don’t need any. You go right ahead, by all means. :p


41 posted on 07/07/2012 10:23:50 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: markomalley

I’ve spent the last 20 minutes searching for news on his opponent Gabby Mercer. There’s almost nothing out there. MSM news blackout, it appears. She must be quite a threat to that incompetent commie. The so-called “news” outlets are despicable.


42 posted on 07/07/2012 10:51:40 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: markomalley

Disregard my Post #42. Wrong thread. I hate it when I do that. Need more caffeine.


43 posted on 07/07/2012 10:54:13 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Edward Teach

Let us not forget the Former Governor of Arkansas who took advantage of the market for Arkansas Prison Blood.

http://prorev.com/blood.htm


44 posted on 07/07/2012 11:04:55 AM PDT by Tucson Jim
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To: stuartcr
“I think they will probably test the donors for HIV prior to taking their blood, don’t you?”

The problem with testing of any type is that there is a window after infection where the disease cannot be detected. So that newly infected gays will be spreading the disease. I would rather have a special “gay blood bank” where gays can donate blood to other gays if they are so insistent on giving blood.

45 posted on 07/07/2012 11:09:10 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: CitizenM

I did my donation through the local Red Cross who stored and transported the blood and made sure it was at the hospital on the day of my surgery. It was the hospital who charged my insurance company for the blood. I made my own donation to the blood bank because they were so great about the whole process. I also try to make frequent blood donations because I have a rare type.

Even if you have an anonymous blood transfusion, there is always a charge because of the logistics involved. In my case, the need to test the blood was eliminated since it was my own. In a regular transfusion, there is work involved to test its safety and to store and transport it. There is always going to be an expense involved.

The only bad thing about my sitation, was that I donated three pints of my own blood, but used one pint. The other two had to be discarded because the blood was not screened the way a regular blood donation is. That’s a shame because my type is rare. I try to donate whenever I can.


46 posted on 07/07/2012 11:43:18 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: markomalley

AIDS isn’t the only STD running rampant in the “anything goes” homosexual community.


47 posted on 07/07/2012 11:56:46 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: markomalley

Why should the blood supply be controlled by a few select NFPs? If blood is valuable let the market take care of it. Why not pay for blood?


48 posted on 07/07/2012 12:27:34 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: markomalley

The BS just gets deeper and deeper. I’ve been giving blood since 1960 and am a member of the four gallon club. They have always, well before AIDS, they tell me, taken blood from queers but they set it aside and use it for things other than transfusions. One mentioned plasma but I don’t know the fine points.

If they need more blood they could simply make it less of a pain in the butt to give. They used to take the type sample from ear lobes. That, apparently was too freeeken easy so they changed to sticking a sharp wedgie in my finger. But I need my fingers and don’t want to lose a day to a sore finger tip. So I quit and can’t get a straight answer from anybody at the Red Ex as to why they can’t take a type sample from anyplace except my best finger tip——I dare ya-—just try!

Some communities have walk in, no appointment, facilities which are great, but most apparently don’t. If the Red Ex actually needs more blood they know how to get it altho it might require an anal head extraction by management. That makes it highly suspect that there is some other political/whiner component involved.


49 posted on 07/07/2012 1:11:13 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: markomalley

The denial is maddening.

“Safe” sex is like trying make Russian Roulette “safer” by adding a few cylinders to the revolver.


50 posted on 07/07/2012 1:15:26 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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