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American Twilight - The lamps of liberty are going out
The National Review Online | July 7, 2012 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 07/07/2012 8:46:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

..................In recent years, speaking to audiences hither and yon, I’m wont to say something on the lines of “The lamps are going out on liberty all over the world.” It’s my update on a famous observation by Edward Grey, British foreign secretary on the eve of the Great War. In August 1914, Sir Edward stood at his window in the summer dusk, and said, “The lamps are going out all over Europe.” He was speaking metaphorically. After all, his remark was prompted by the sight of London’s lamplighters going about their evening routine lighting the lamps in Whitehall. Metaphorically speaking, the lights of liberty were certainly dimmed by Roberts’s hideously convoluted Supreme Court decision: I don’t see why I should be fined $695 for declining to participate in an overpriced and dysfunctional “insurance” “market.”

But that’s a philosophical argument, and most folks just want to get on with their lives. And in that sense last week’s power outages are more relevant to where the U.S. is headed than what passes for John Roberts’s thinking in his Obamacare opinion. It was a reminder, as if you needed one, that in the American twilight the lights will be going out literally. Last week, as the East Coast was fading to black, the West Coast was sinking deeper into the red: Stockton, Calif., became the largest U.S. city to date to file for bankruptcy. America is seizing up before our eyes, and the action necessary to reverse the sclerosis is stymied at every turn by rapacious unions, government micro-regulators, dependency-spreading social engineers, and crony capitalists who know how to weave their way through the bureaucracy...........


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: freedom; liberty; marksteyn; steyn; usconstitution; vanity
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1 posted on 07/07/2012 8:46:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Another gem by Mark. Wish I had his command of the English language. The lamp has been going out since the sixties. Watch out Rome and Greece. You are about to be outdone by the once great USA. Those I feel most sorry for? The Founders.


2 posted on 07/07/2012 8:54:27 AM PDT by animal172 (Calling the Founding Fathers!! We need your help.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

can you post a link?


3 posted on 07/07/2012 8:54:38 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth, Sadly Not the Presidency It Seems)
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To: Sybeck1

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/304888/american-twilight-mark-steyn


4 posted on 07/07/2012 8:57:44 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Sybeck1

It’s really not that taxing to look it up......


6 posted on 07/07/2012 8:58:34 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A second American revolution is coming.


7 posted on 07/07/2012 8:59:00 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: animal172

I think his rather varied background, including Canadian, Christian with Jewish lineage, educated at a “public” school in England, resident of the US (not sure if he is US citizen) shines in his work.


8 posted on 07/07/2012 9:00:38 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Are Americans ready to become slaves? Where is the tipping point? Has any nation ever legislated itself back from the brink of tyranny?


9 posted on 07/07/2012 9:02:06 AM PDT by Spok
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We are down to prayer and the 2nd Amendment.

Regarding the latter, WHO will be our George Washington, John Addams, and Thomas Jefferson, and be the first to put his balls on the line?


10 posted on 07/07/2012 9:02:44 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Armed, judgmental, fiscally responsible heterosexual.)
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To: Paladin2

It’s not that taxing to include it, as it’s supposed to be, when an article is posted.


11 posted on 07/07/2012 9:05:49 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

It’s taxing to read bitching about it. Manup.


12 posted on 07/07/2012 9:09:03 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: F15Eagle

The world is being prepped. As economies crumble, the cry to end national sovereignty and create a “new world government” is fed to the masses.

No one is ready for this. It is exactly what is happening.


13 posted on 07/07/2012 9:14:17 AM PDT by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: Spok; Avoiding_Sulla

Regarding the history of republics, you should make this inquiry of Sulla’s wife, not Cincinnatus’; Cincinnatus simply went home when the job was done.

Roman history is chock-full of currently relevant careers and events, none of it very hopeful or encouraging, however.


14 posted on 07/07/2012 9:16:07 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: Biggirl

I doubt that a new Revolution is coming.. half the people in this country are good with America`s decline.


15 posted on 07/07/2012 9:18:50 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: ScottinVA

I may still be proven right down the road though.


16 posted on 07/07/2012 9:19:58 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Watched a history show on PBS last night: Ten Crucial Days. (excellent show, highly recommended)It was about the Battles of Trenton and Princeton during the American Revolution, the hardships, Washington’s genius, etc. Made me cry because of all the suffering, struggles and hard-won victories and those ^%$&#&#, Roberts and Obama, flushed them down the crapper in one fell swoop.

I struggle to find graciousness for them.


18 posted on 07/07/2012 9:24:09 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Spok
LOTS of nations have come back from tyranny: England (Cromwell), Spain, Portugal, Greece, South Korea, Taiwan, every Latin American country (some multiple times), most Communist nations, etc.

Not to mention all those where the tyranny fell because it was defeated in war: Italy, Japan, Germany, France (again, several times), etc.

Off-hand I can't think of one that went up and peeped over the edge and then stepped back. But I'll give it some thought.

19 posted on 07/07/2012 9:25:28 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
In August 1914, Sir Edward stood at his window in the summer dusk, and said, “The lamps are going out all over Europe.”

Off the top of my head, the full quote was “The lamps are going out all over Europe, and we shall not see them lit again in our lifetimes.”

He was right.

The next morning, Germany invaded Belgium on their way to France.

Europe to this day has not recovered.

20 posted on 07/07/2012 9:25:41 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: animal172

The vulture are just about outnumbering the people who created the golden goose.


21 posted on 07/07/2012 9:35:34 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: EyeGuy
Yup. They cannot legitimately legislate us into slavery and call it Constitution. We know better. But our numbers are dwindling. It is now or never.

The Soviet Union fell because of external pressure. If the US falls to the marxists, there will be no external pressure on any of the major powers to force them to allow freedom to their citizens. We need to make a stand here.

22 posted on 07/07/2012 9:40:35 AM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The lamps of liberty may be going out, but watch for the muzzle flashes.


23 posted on 07/07/2012 9:44:01 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Aria

“The vulture are just about outnumbering the people who created the golden goose.”

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In a nutshell.

The problem is not the RaceMarxist and his band of talentless Commie Ivy League lawyers, it is the near 50% of Americans who benefit from big government.

Look not just at the Federal government behemoth folks, but at the satisfied, overpaid parasites infesting your local school district, fire departments, and local and state government.


24 posted on 07/07/2012 9:51:33 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Armed, judgmental, fiscally responsible heterosexual.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

BFLR


25 posted on 07/07/2012 9:54:20 AM PDT by Raven6 (Psalm 144:1 and Proverbs 22:3 --- Peritus Expello Formidine)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Marvelous, marvelous Mark Steyn!


26 posted on 07/07/2012 9:59:28 AM PDT by Gritty (America has a money-no-object government with a lot of money but no great objects-Mark Steyn)
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To: ScottinVA; Biggirl
I doubt that a new Revolution is coming.. half the people in this country are good with America`s decline.

They won't be for long when that decline hits them personally, or the Timber Rattler is tread on one too many times.

27 posted on 07/07/2012 10:01:22 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: EyeGuy
Regarding the latter, WHO will be our George Washington, John Addams, and Thomas Jefferson, and be the first to put his balls on the line?

Sarah Palin or Allen West.
28 posted on 07/07/2012 10:12:10 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: crosshairs

“Sarah Palin or Allen West.”

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Along with Michelle Bachmann (remember her?) and precious few others, yes those two seem most fearless, in the face of the ongoing destruction at the hands of the cool black guy paper cut-out, foisted on us by the Bolsheviks.

However, I doin’t understand West’s needs to be a member of the openly racist CBC.


29 posted on 07/07/2012 10:15:48 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Armed, judgmental, fiscally responsible heterosexual.)
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To: EyeGuy

I think he just wants to keep tabs on them.


30 posted on 07/07/2012 10:56:56 AM PDT by Josephat (`)
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To: DTogo

The timber rattler being stomped on won`t drive the shiftless to action, but a cessation of their benefits might. Americans aren`t quite as motivated about freedom as we know it anymore. “freedom” has been redefined as the freedom to grab as much pie as possible and run for the nearest corner.

Sorry.. not having much optimism about the future now.


31 posted on 07/07/2012 11:48:07 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: DTogo

That is why that snake is the on the Gashton flag.

As the saying goes, “when push comes to sholve”.


32 posted on 07/07/2012 12:10:47 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: ScottinVA
Their attention has been diverted by the “freedom” to be as depraved as possible, true freedom of self-determination and the responsibility for ones self which that entails is no longer comprehensible.
33 posted on 07/07/2012 12:21:58 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: ScottinVA

Oh, and I agree with you regarding not having much optimism for the future. Too many are invested in their “victimhood” and the free ride, the rest are invested in forcing everyone to validate their perversion because they think that will mitigate the guilt they still feel when they can’t avoid the truth on a sleepless night. My only optimism is in that this was foretold in God’s Word, which also tells how the story ends-God and His people win.


34 posted on 07/07/2012 12:26:13 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Biggirl

“A second American revolution is coming.”

Long overdue.


35 posted on 07/07/2012 1:01:41 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Aria
The vulture are just about outnumbering the people who created the golden goose.

Well, it's time to quit crying about it, and let that golden goose pull her piece and start dropping those damned vultures left and right -- a huge hecatomb of vultures. And let the coyotes and wild pigs and feral dogs eat the vultures, and piss on 'em. Their tough luck. Wrong goose.

36 posted on 07/07/2012 2:00:48 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: ought-six

Second it. Long, very long overdue.


37 posted on 07/07/2012 2:01:21 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl
That is why that snake is the on the Gashton flag.

The Gadsden Militia flag is flying outside my front door right now, topped by a Betsy Ross.

What the legend means is a polite, 18th-century version of "If you step on me, you stupid ************, you will wish you had tried to **** Godzilla instead!"

Or words to that effect. Sorta.

38 posted on 07/07/2012 2:07:48 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Biggirl

Revolutions are fought by the young. America’s young don’t love America.


39 posted on 07/07/2012 2:10:31 PM PDT by Varda
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To: Varda

But they sure LOVE the American free market system, proof, with all those tech stuff they have.


40 posted on 07/07/2012 2:13:03 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Or to use the famous New Hampshere saying, “live free or die”.


41 posted on 07/07/2012 2:14:29 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: lentulusgracchus

So what are you going to do about it - go out in the street and shoot into the sky? Some people are doing something...the “Impeach Obama” road sign in Alaska - the guy giving the Obama bus the 2 finger salute - but while fun these things in themselves do nothing.

I think we have to spread the facts to those we know, write our so called representatives, donate, vote, volunteer. However, I’ve tried all of this to no avail - it just keeps getting worse. Of course I live on the left coast but I can only pray that enough of my fellow people do this right thing this election - or we are truly done for and the only remedy will be a second civil war.


42 posted on 07/07/2012 2:20:57 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: Biggirl

Yes they like stuff. They always have their noses in phones now. I doubt they give a thought to free enterprise because they sure don’t think socialism is bad.


43 posted on 07/07/2012 2:26:19 PM PDT by Varda
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To: Varda

Which is nothing more then a “passing phase”.


44 posted on 07/07/2012 2:28:55 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Aria
So what are you going to do about it - go out in the street and shoot into the sky?

I'm going to sign up to be a Tea Party poll watcher, like in 2010, is what.

And keep my piece clean.

45 posted on 07/07/2012 2:32:23 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Can you get me info about becoming a tea party poll watcher, website info, please. Thanks!


46 posted on 07/07/2012 2:35:42 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sure, but the fires of war are being lit.


47 posted on 07/07/2012 2:36:09 PM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I’d be interested in getting the into on this also.


48 posted on 07/07/2012 2:42:56 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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bump


49 posted on 07/07/2012 6:29:04 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: EyeGuy

“However, I doin’t understand West’s needs to be a member of the openly racist CBC.”

Really? I do. Brava, Sicilia. Bravissima.

Cold blood is an acquired attitude and disposition.


50 posted on 07/07/2012 6:59:12 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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