To: no dems
Those that do not know their history perpetuate this myth. It is just another Texas myth. Texas entered the Union with the right to divide itself into several smaller states if it so chose. We never did so because we were more powerful electorally as a whole. Yes, Texas was a Republic. So was California for a very short time. Sam Houston's priority as our first president was to convince the United States to allow us into the Union. We were a failure as a Republic and in constant danger of being reclaimed by Mexico. Hitler even attempted to induce Mexico to attack us with promises of returning Texas to Mexico after he won the war.
In addition, Texas lost ALL of its original agreements with the United States when it seceeded and joined the Confederacy. It rejoined the Union, beaten and compromised, and under the same sorry rules as the rest of the former Confederate states. Texas has as much "legal right" to leave the Union today as Louisiana or South Carolina.
That said, if Texans really want to leave the union, it can most likely leave the Union. Every Democrat in America would appreciate us taking our powerful electoral votes (the votes that now anchor the Republican party to some form of power) and leaving. That would ensure that the rest of the United States had a Democrat in the White House for evermore.
posted on 07/07/2012 11:11:08 AM PDT
"Yes, Texas was a Republic. So was California for a very short time"
posted on 07/07/2012 11:13:40 AM PDT
by Celtic Cross
(The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
posted on 07/07/2012 11:36:47 AM PDT
by no dems
(On June 28th, they shoved ObamaCare down our throat. On Nov. 6th, we'll shove it up their ass.)
You did a great job of debunking the "Texas has a right to secede" myth. Let me do a little work on the other half of the claim: "only Texas was an Independent country prior to joining the USA... "
This claim is false. There are several other states or regions that were independent prior to joining the Union. To start with not all the States joined the Union together, back in the 18th Century. I believe that Vermont held out the longest before signing up. As the Revolution was long past there were an independent country for a while there...
The strongest claim to Independence belongs not to Texas, but to Hawaii. There is no disputing that Hawaii was a sovereign Kingdom for many years prior to the events which made it a US Territory.
The West Florida Republic had a brief time as an independent nation, and comprised parts of modern day Miss, Alabama and Louisiana. They were the first American mini-nation to use the Bonnie Blue Flag --- the guys in Texas might be familiar with the basic design, I think they borrowed it.
Those who only know the Texas faux-history of the USA are doomed to repeat it (endlessly on Free Republic).
posted on 07/07/2012 1:13:17 PM PDT
by Jack Black
( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
You are correct. If 130-150 million people in conservative leaning States left the union, the liberals would be thrilled. The idea of no one holding them back from implementing their liberal utopia would be too great. They could live like feudal kings in the fortress cities over the remaining rural population. Nothing to hold them back from the remainder of the socialist agenda. It would be a peaceful separation for 10 years until the fiscal/business climate rose in one area and cratered in the other. That's when the fighting would start. Jmho. Also IMHO its inevitable. I will not live as a slave to bankster and political class!
posted on 07/07/2012 7:12:37 PM PDT
(The average citizen is too lazy to steal from you, instead they are asking the government to do it)
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