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For Marine's family, grief mixes with anger over U.S. war policy
News-Omaha.com ^ | July 07, 2012 | Matthew Hansen

Posted on 07/07/2012 2:05:29 PM PDT by huldah1776

"The family of Lance Cpl. Hunter Hogan blamed military strategy — and the nation's commander in chief — for continued deaths in Afghanistan on Friday, the day they laid the 21-year-old Marine to rest in York.

Steve Hogan, Hunter's father, buried his son in York Friday afternoon and then released a statement that blasted the military's rules of engagement in Afghanistan. Those rules have handcuffed Marines like his son as they try to wage war, he said, adding to the danger they face in some of the most dangerous areas of Afghanistan."

(Excerpt) Read more at omaha.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; hunterhogan; marines; roe; wot
Speaking out...for the rest of us.
1 posted on 07/07/2012 2:05:40 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

I’m a HAWK for destroying our enemies at a moment’s notice and taking it to them with everything we’ve got. But, I am not stupid, and stupid policies get our best killed! I stand with this father 1000%!!!

If we’re not going to take it to the enemey, and let our soldiers take it to them, them BRING THEM ALL THE HELL HOME!!!!

After 10 YEARS, it’s up the Afghans risk ‘their’ lives and PATROL THEIR OWN DAMN COUNTRY!


2 posted on 07/07/2012 2:17:22 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: huldah1776

My sympathies go out to the family over the loss of their loved one.If we’re not going to win the war in Afghanistan we should get out and stop wasting the lives of our troop and the treasure of the taxpayers.


3 posted on 07/07/2012 2:17:25 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: huldah1776
Hunter was a student of mine. Good kid. Our little town is devastated....and then to read this.
4 posted on 07/07/2012 2:18:57 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: huldah1776

I’m a HAWK for destroying our enemies at a moment’s notice and taking it to them with everything we’ve got. But, I am not stupid, and stupid policies get our best killed! I stand with this father 1000%!!!

If we’re not going to take it to the enemey, and let our soldiers take it to them, them BRING THEM ALL THE HELL HOME!!!!

After 10 YEARS, it’s up the Afghans risk ‘their’ lives and PATROL THEIR OWN DAMN COUNTRY!


5 posted on 07/07/2012 2:19:28 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: hoosiermama

Very sorry to hear this. I know this hits close to home for you. I am really disgusted with our never-ending policy of having our military ground troops stay on perpetual ‘patrol’ duties without doing the necessary clearing to control the territory. If you are not going to control the territory with all means available, then get the hell out! After all, if the locals are not able to do it after 10 years, it’s not going to change with another 10.


6 posted on 07/07/2012 2:24:30 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: hoosiermama

My son is in Hogan’s company, and we are all mourning his loss. They also lost others and it is very, very, very hard.

Hogan’s funeral was so honorably amazing. I wish I could have gone, but I think we will go say goodbye when we can.

http://www.1011now.com/home/headlines/Marine_Killed_in_Afghanistan_to_be_Buried_in_Nebraska_161356485.html


7 posted on 07/07/2012 2:32:08 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: LibFreeUSA

Very close. As I said he was a good kid, had many friends here. Disgusted/angry a total unnecessary loss of life.


8 posted on 07/07/2012 2:34:13 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: huldah1776; 2ndDivisionVet

We finally got permission to lower flags to half mast....You wouldn’t believe the red tape. Another student is in charge of the Vet Services. She just lost her daddy, and was a friend of Hunter....Stopped by for hug. Another friend organized a community service here at the same time as the one in Nebraska. Just couldn’t go....It’s SO difficult to lose one of your own,

Prayers for you and all connected with/to you.

Shades of VIetnam....


9 posted on 07/07/2012 2:40:10 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: huldah1776
The criticism echoes complaints from some Nebraska and Iowa troops as they return from the Afghan War. They say that they aren't allowed to fire at Afghans who they believe have just triggered roadside bombs. They say they often can't fight at night, or call in airstrikes, because of military leaders' fear of doing anything that angers the Afghan population.

The goal should be to make the population fear doing anyuthing that angers us. Otherwise we will lose and should leave now.

10 posted on 07/07/2012 2:43:35 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: LibFreeUSA

Agreed. This is simply nation building.


11 posted on 07/07/2012 2:46:00 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: LibFreeUSA

I am sick over all the wonderful, talented, CONSERVATIVE young people dying caught in a web of ROE that are about propping up international political careers and not safety or winning.

Killing off the children of conservatives isnt hurting Hussian in any way.


12 posted on 07/07/2012 2:59:13 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: huldah1776
Military personnel dying in defense of the nation will always remain having given the highest price in love of their country, for me being heroes forever.

Nevertheless, there is much to say for mother's like Cindy Sheehan. But one incident of a tragic soldier's death will never leave me. One soldier having lost his life in a particularly heroic hard fought battle had his body returned not in a coffin but already resting in peace deep within some elaborate memorial.

Upon approaching the overwhelming, impenetrable edifice his mother so grief-stricken, emotionally crazed by her loss tried barreling her way through the hardened material shrieking his name,sobbing so pitifully I won't ever forget it, deprived of even one last embrace, one last look, no matter how he looked. Still, God Bless this heroic man, God Bless America.

13 posted on 07/07/2012 3:05:59 PM PDT by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" by way of Oppenheimer at Trinity, NM)
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To: huldah1776
Bring them home, all of them, bring them home now! We need not fight another war with wishy washy missions and wishy washy rules of engagement.

After we get the troops out of there, let's bring all the troops, all around the world home and issue our own fatwah!

We do have weapons of mass destruction! Mess with us or any of our few remaining allies and we will use them for what they were intended!

14 posted on 07/07/2012 3:38:30 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America, where are you now?" - Little "r" republican!)
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To: hoosiermama

My brother was buried this week in 1970. Nothing changes. I still hear his fiance crying her heart out.


15 posted on 07/07/2012 5:05:35 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: ImpBill

Seriously. Bring all the troops home from all over the world. Okay. Look at how the world is reacting to this administration’s limp wristed policies. What would happen if there were not police in this nation? Do you lock your doors? Do you appreciate the patrol car driving up your street. Do you want your policeman sitting at a desk? He has a gun, but he is at a desk.

A nuke? A nuke? We are going to nuke everyone? Our enemies have nukes. It’s the termites and mold we are fighting in Afghanistan not a nation.


16 posted on 07/07/2012 5:48:49 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776; LibFreeUSA; Chickensoup
Here is a picture from his funeral...Kids around here called him "cowboy"


17 posted on 07/07/2012 8:11:43 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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Here one of the groups of many who stood along the road as his body was moved from the church to the cemetary


18 posted on 07/07/2012 8:22:53 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: hoosiermama; Irish Rose
At the cemetary

Rose, prayers needed here.....


19 posted on 07/07/2012 8:27:38 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: LucyT; onyx; STARWISE; Jim Robinson; Nachum

Here’s the thread. Make sure you follow the links to original article where there are more links to pictures and his father’s statement.

From the dad’s statement”

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Here’s the statistics in Afghanistan for the 8 years of George Bush. The total killed in action under him is 660. Barack Obama in 3 years and 5 months the total killed in action is a total of 1,398.

Wounded under George Bush is 2,637 in 8 years. Wounded under Obama up to January 31st of this year is 11,529.


Would sure like to see it go viral....Here’s a link to just his statement....Damn Amateur!

http://www.omaha.com/article/20120707/NEWS/707079900


20 posted on 07/07/2012 9:24:05 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: hoosiermama

I am downloading all the info I can to create a memorial page. I have no images of the time at the cemetery. Where did you get this picture?


21 posted on 07/08/2012 6:10:47 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

There are pictures at a link at the top of the newstory you posted, but my photos are from friends who traveled with family to Nebraska for the funeral....They posted three on face book and we’ve been passing them around making sure all local people see them....Have started sharing the links you gave too

Here’s a link to news article the pictures.

http://odc.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=5002&p=3736


22 posted on 07/08/2012 10:15:06 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: huldah1776

FR mail to you


23 posted on 07/08/2012 10:16:24 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: hoosiermama

Question - see mail...


24 posted on 07/08/2012 12:47:29 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

Answered...also on FB


25 posted on 07/08/2012 1:47:20 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: hoosiermama

The horrible and stupid foreign-military policy and tactics that this country has and continues to undertake in the Middle East should not take away from honoring the courageous sacrifice that his young man has made in the service of his country and his fellow citizens. May God bless this young man and his family.


26 posted on 07/08/2012 6:38:40 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: hoosiermama

Obama you mean? Not an amateur. A professional panderer. Seems the reason he has such lame ROE is because he doesn’t want to warn clueless goatherds in Afghanistan that it really isn’t a good idea to wander around in a war zone.


27 posted on 07/08/2012 9:30:01 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew)
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