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U.S. Air Force considers training changes after sex scandal
Reuters ^ | Sat Jul 7, 2012 9:37am EDT | Jim Forsyth

Posted on 07/07/2012 2:43:27 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The U.S. Air Force is considering whether to revamp basic training for recruits, including separate training for women and men, following the worst U.S. military sex scandal in 16 years involving a dozen male drill sergeants accused of abusing women.

Twelve male military training instructors at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas, the home of all Air Force basic training, are under investigation for seeking sexual favors from female Air Force trainees.

Six instructors have been referred to court martial on charges ranging from attempting to have a sexual relationship with a recruit to adultery and aggravated sexual assault.

The first of the court martials begins on July 16, when Sergeant Luis Walker will face several counts of aggravated sexual assault, attempted sexual assault, having an unprofessional relationship, adultery and obstructing justice. He could face life in prison.

The investigation so far has identified 31 victims of abuse by the trainers, according to General Edward Rice, the commander of Air Force training. "We are leaving no stone unturned," he said last week.

In the Air Force, women and men serve together in units, known as training flights, and they live either in separate barracks or across the hall from male trainees, with separate bathing and sleeping areas.

About 10 percent of the drill sergeants—known in the Air Force as Military Training Instructors (MITs)—are female and they command both men and women. …

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airforce; basictraining; clintonlegacy; doublestandard; itsjustsex; military; sex; sexscandal
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1 posted on 07/07/2012 2:43:30 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Sex scandals were predicted. As an aside I would like to see pictures of the perps. I can’t wait for the first scandal involving Fag sargents and pink young boy recruits!


2 posted on 07/07/2012 2:47:42 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Olog-hai

For thousands of years, military organizations have prohibited the involvement of women.

Now, in its infinite PC wisdom, America has foolishly thrown men and women together in extremely high stress environments.

Other than that, no comment is necessary.


3 posted on 07/07/2012 2:48:41 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Olog-hai

If we are going to consider separate training for men and women and same sex trainers, shouldn’t we also consider that gays and lesbians can only train their same as well. After all what’s the difference between male trainers over women and any others with same sex orientations over their trainees?


4 posted on 07/07/2012 2:49:10 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Olog-hai
Maybe it would be better to just do the simple thing and get rid of the chicks.

In most of my work environments, they were just a pain-in-the-a$$ anyway.

No reason to believe it would be any different in the military.

Occam's Razor.

5 posted on 07/07/2012 2:50:24 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

The WACS used to be a separate squadron. Gee, maybe that wasn’t such a bad idea. So who should be a drill instructor for a flight of homosexual men? A straight women?


6 posted on 07/07/2012 2:57:13 PM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: Olog-hai

How is this different than what Clinton did?


7 posted on 07/07/2012 3:03:42 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Truth29

The premise used to be that if you put men and women together sooner or late they would have sex.

Today the same goes for men and men, and women and women.

It’s the new America.

Won’t be long before some drill instructor will be asking their male recruits for sex.It’s going to happen as sure as the sun will rise.


8 posted on 07/07/2012 3:04:57 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Olog-hai

They won’t be reporting what’s happening on Submarines, with a few women onoard a sub. You can bet they’re making a LOT of extra money there.


9 posted on 07/07/2012 3:06:57 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Olog-hai
Six instructors have been referred to court martial on charges ranging from attempting to have a sexual relationship with a recruit to adultery

Since this is no longer criminal in many states, what is the charge?

If same sex sodomy is now permissible in the military (AND CELEBRATED) who's to "judge"?

10 posted on 07/07/2012 3:07:17 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: Olog-hai
The first of the court martials begins on July 16, when Sergeant Luis Walker will face several counts of aggravated sexual assault, attempted sexual assault, having an unprofessional relationship, adultery and obstructing justice. He could face life in prison.

And yet the Commander in Chief from 1993-Jan 20, 2001 was an adulterer, had an unprofessional relationship in the Oval Office, deployed troops while receiving a hummer, engaged in adultery and sexual assault and intimidation.

11 posted on 07/07/2012 3:09:59 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: Olog-hai
The first of the court martials begins on July 16, when Sergeant Luis Walker will face several counts of aggravated sexual assault, attempted sexual assault, having an unprofessional relationship, adultery and obstructing justice. He could face life in prison.

And yet the Commander in Chief from 1993-Jan 20, 2001 was an adulterer, had an unprofessional relationship in the Oval Office, deployed troops while receiving a hummer, engaged in adultery and sexual assault and intimidation.

12 posted on 07/07/2012 3:09:59 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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“charges ranging from attempting to have a sexual relationship with a recruit to adultery”

If a homosexual is ‘married’ to another homosexual does the military recognize the marriage and charge them for adultery, too? Or are married homosexuals given a pass because homosexual marriage is not recognized? The military would need to charge for equal justice under the laws but then that recognition opens a whole ‘nother can of worms.

So many questions and possibilites, what a mess...


13 posted on 07/07/2012 3:25:15 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Jack Hammer

You seem to haZ a comprehension issue. Liberals have told us that History, fact, reason and logic are not relavent to this discussion.

If a person ‘feels’ that a thing should be a way, it is so.. Thus the military is required to totally rearrange itself to comply. And it is the responsibility of you and I to pay for any cost incurred so that they get their participation trophy and don’t ‘feel’ their self esteem is negatively impacted.

Have you learned nothing since LBJ?

/s


14 posted on 07/07/2012 3:32:07 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Olog-hai

I mean what the heck is a DRILL Sargent supposed to do?

Never forget at dear ol Lackland, our drill area was near where the “ladies” marched with their bulldyke Drill Sargent. She was overheard loadly telling the girls that there was 5 miles of d___ at Lackland and if they didn’t get their heads out of their a____, they would not get an inch of it. Of couse she didn’t bother to also tell them they were feeding us 5 lbs. of potassium nitrate a day EACH.


15 posted on 07/07/2012 3:35:27 PM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: a fool in paradise
"Since this is no longer criminal in many states, what is the charge?"

Adultery has long been, and remains a criminal charge under the UCMJ.

16 posted on 07/07/2012 3:38:47 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Jack Hammer
I think the sexual revolution has finally conquered the last bastion of honor, respect, & decorum - the military.

Certainly horny, homosexual, and/or abusive drill Sgts have existed since drill Sgts existed. The difference is the lax personal moral codes that apparently elude many in the military, & their inability to control themselves even in a very controlled environment.

That this is happening even in the elite military academies indicates a general decline in the value of honor & morality.

17 posted on 07/07/2012 4:14:23 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: MulberryDraw

I wish I had taken a pic of the womens compound

in Quang Tri,this thing was surrounded by concertina

wire with an MP post at the entrance.

These new rules were made to destroy the US military.


18 posted on 07/07/2012 4:17:14 PM PDT by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: Olog-hai

If only somebody could have predicted this kind of behavior.


19 posted on 07/07/2012 4:18:26 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I miss Harriet Miers.)
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To: Mister Da
Certainly horny, homosexual, and/or abusive drill Sgts have existed since drill Sgts existed.

"EW!"


20 posted on 07/07/2012 4:25:42 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I miss Harriet Miers.)
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