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Fast and Furious plan backfires
bostonherald.com ^ | 8 July, 2012 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 07/08/2012 5:39:42 AM PDT by marktwain

The American people finally have heard of Brian Terry. He is the best-known victim of Fast and Furious, an Obama administration conventional-weapons proliferation program. Between November 2009 and January 2011, Team Obama arranged for licensed firearms dealers to sell guns to straw buyers, who transferred them to known violent criminals in Mexico. Among these firearms, two AK-47s were found near Rio Rico, Arizona, where suspected smugglers fatally shot Terry, a 40-year-old former Marine, on December 15, 2010.

While Brian Terry epitomizes those whom Fast and Furious has harmed, he is not its sole casualty.

U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement agent Jaime Zapata, 32, was shot mortally in San Luis Potosi, Mexico. Members of Los Zetas drug gang also ambushed ICE Agent Victor Avila, although not fatally. This Feb. 15, 2011 assault involved a rifle purchased in Dallas in another Obama administration “gunwalking” escapade.

Largely overlooked is this plan’s calamitous impact on Mexico, its people and U.S.-Mexican relations.

“Our federal government knowingly, willfully, purposefully gave the drug cartels nearly 2,000 weapons — mainly AK-47s — and allowed them to walk,” Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) told NBC News. These arms were supposed to lead federal agents in Phoenix to the Mexican thugs who acquired them. Instead, Fast and Furious guns melted into Mexico.

Approximately 300 Mexicans have been killed or wounded by Fast and Furious guns, estimates former Mexican attorney general Victor Humberto Benitez Trevino. Relevant details are scarce. However, at least one case generated enormous headlines ... in Mexico. Here is what happened, according to a July 26, 2011 report by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) and Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa).

On Oct. 21, 2010, Sinaloa drug cartel members kidnapped Mario Gonzalez, brother of Chihuahua state’s then-Attorney General Patricia Gonzalez. A video promptly emerged showing Mario in handcuffs, surrounded by five armed, masked captors. That Nov. 5, his tortured body was discovered in a shallow grave. Mexican police soon nabbed his suspected kidnappers in a shootout. Among 16 weapons seized along with eight of these hoodlums, serial numbers confirm that two were Fast and Furious guns. These also were tied to the kidnappings of two people.

Fast and Furious guns have befouled at least 200 crime scenes. Among them:

• Members of the La Familia drug gang fired at a Mexican Federal Police helicopter on May 24, 2011, wounding three officers and forcing an emergency landing in Michoacan, western Mexico. Five days later, four more helicopters attacked La Familia. They returned fire, striking all four choppers and injuring another two government agents. The police prevailed, killing 11 cartel members and arresting 36 — including those suspected of targeting the first chopper. Mexican authorities say La Familia possessed heavy-duty body armor and 70 rifles, including several Fast and Furious weapons.

• Two weapons purchased by Fast and Furious targets were recovered in Sonora on July 1, 2010 and tied to a “Homicide/Willful Kill — Gun,” the U.S. Justice Department declared last Sept. 9.

• Two Fast and Furious guns were linked to a February 2010 assassination conspiracy against Baja California’s then-Police Chief Julian Leyzaola.

• Four Fast and Furious guns were found on Jan. 8, 2010 and connected to a “kidnap/ransom.”

• Eleven Fast and Furious firearms were discovered in Atoyac de Alvarez after Mexican soldiers saved a kidnap victim on Nov. 14, 2009.

Team Obama’s defenders correctly argue that Bush administration investigators distributed some 450 guns in Mexico. But there are several key differences: No known deaths pertain to Operation Wide Receiver. Many of its weapons (unlike most Fast and Furious guns) featured radio-tracking devices. Also, Mexico’s government knew about and supported Wide Receiver.

In contrast, Issa and Grassley observed, “ATF and DOJ leadership kept their own personnel in Mexico and Mexican government officials totally in the dark about all aspects of Fast and Furious.”

“Fast and Furious has poisoned the well-spring of public opinion in Mexico as it relates to the cooperation and engagement with the United States,” Mexico’s envoy to America, Ambassador Arturo Sarukhan, declared May 31.

Issa and Grassley concluded that 1,048 of these weapons “remain unaccounted for.” Unlike carrier pigeons, these Fast and Furious guns will not fly safely home. Instead, for years to come, they will keep drawing blood in Mexico — and points north.

Deroy Murdock is syndicated columnist with the Scripps Howard News Service, and a media fellow with the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace at Stanford University.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; brianterry; dea; dhs; doj; fandfmexico; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; jaimezapata; murdergate; obama; terry; zapata
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1 posted on 07/08/2012 5:39:45 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: MestaMachine

Gunwalker / Murdergate ping.


2 posted on 07/08/2012 5:40:35 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
I would sure love to see what's in the documents that Holder and Obama are going to such great lengths to keep out of the public eye.

Was this program a vehicle to convince the public we need stricter gun laws or just plain incompetence?

We'll probably never know until we have full disclosure from the most honest and transparent administration in history.

3 posted on 07/08/2012 5:48:13 AM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: marktwain

Remember folks, Obama and Holder murdered American and Mexican citizens for a political agenda. Sorry but this is what it all comes down to. They drew blood in order to deprive American Citizens their Civil Rights.

They crossed the line and they must face punishment for doing so. The Government must also give up a lot of authority on controlling firearms to prevent this kind of thing in the future. Nothing less is acceptable.

If Congress fails to do it’s job and met out punishment, you and I know that someone in the American public will for them.

As for me, after F&F, I will not accept ANY new gun control. The Government has lost ALL legitimacy where firearms are concerned. They have no right to even be involved in gun control at all after what they have done.

To say that what has transpired with F&F disgusts me is quite the understatement.


4 posted on 07/08/2012 5:49:18 AM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: marktwain
"Fast and Furious plan backfires"

It didn't "backfire." It wasn't a "botched operation." It worked precisely as Obama and his handmaidens in the USDOJ planned, until exposed for what it was: a blatant attempt to undermine a cornerstone of the U.S. constitution.
5 posted on 07/08/2012 5:50:50 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: marktwain

So glad to see this well written article, by a credible journalist published in a main stream newspaper. The truth will out.


6 posted on 07/08/2012 5:51:12 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Carbonsteel
Was this program a vehicle to convince the public we need stricter gun laws or just plain incompetence?

It was clearly the former. "Plain incompetence," though a hallmark of the Obama Administration, makes no sense here. "Incompetence" about what? If they had placed tracking devices on the weapons and the devices failed, or were easily removed, there might be a case for it. But since there were no tracking devices employed, and since the Mexican authorities were out of the loop, what motive remains?

Indisputably, the goal was to create chaos and mayhem that could be traced back to American-made weapons, to further the statists' anti-Second Amendment agenda. And since their "mission," insofar as the chaos and mayhem are concerned, was hugely successful, they must do everything possible, including being in contempt of Congress, to hide the facts from the American people.

7 posted on 07/08/2012 6:00:17 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (If a gay guy wants a man date, give him a tax.)
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To: PowderMonkey
Exactamundo.

The msm and left wing websites ala Huffpo and DailKos are now trying to turn this into another “birther” or “truther” deal. Nothing to see here, move along...only the right wing nutjobs at it again, to destroy the smartest guy ever...because HE'S BLACK and they are dumbo racists.

Every chance I get, I ask these brilliant folks why the guns were not fitted with tracking devices. I've never gotten a bite. Not even a squirrely try to answer that one.

I hope Issa doesn't give up. But I don't hold out much hope for anything these days.

8 posted on 07/08/2012 6:14:13 AM PDT by Pigsley
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To: shalom aleichem

Bump


9 posted on 07/08/2012 6:14:31 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: marktwain
Should be forwarded to the editors of ‘Fortune,” after their absurd article claiming ATF’s F&F actions were not deliberate.
10 posted on 07/08/2012 6:16:05 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: shalom aleichem

There are zero links to this story from the Boston Herald’s home page.

Only 7 comments in 10 hours, and no left wing freak comments at all on a left wing freak newspaper.

This has been effectively buried by Boston Herald.


11 posted on 07/08/2012 6:16:33 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: PowderMonkey

Backfires implys that it was a right. This was agenda driven against the gun owners of America and not what it was paraded around to be. These cretans have blood on thier hands American blood! The headlines should read “The boston herld wakes up from coma”


12 posted on 07/08/2012 6:22:34 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (B B)
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To: marktwain

13 posted on 07/08/2012 6:34:41 AM PDT by PLD
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To: marktwain

14 posted on 07/08/2012 6:35:50 AM PDT by PLD
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To: marktwain

bfl


15 posted on 07/08/2012 7:07:43 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: marktwain; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; ...

“Issa and Grassley concluded that 1,048 of these weapons ‘remain unaccounted for.’ Unlike carrier pigeons, these Fast and Furious guns will not fly safely home. Instead, for years to come, they will keep drawing blood in Mexico — and points north.”

IMHO the numbers are probably MUCH higher. We don’t know how many ops were running simultaneously or from how many different places. I think F&F is only the smallest tip of an iceberg the likes of which would shatter this Republic.


16 posted on 07/08/2012 7:13:04 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine; hoosiermama

Even were the numbers as posted it’s a despicable plan, criminal and insane. Only those with contempt for America, its citizens, and its Constitution, would engage in such lunacy.


17 posted on 07/08/2012 7:19:12 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: PowderMonkey

You are exactly right - for F & F to “work”, people had to die ..... and they have. I think the intent was for mostly Mexicans to die & then pressure from the Mexican government to stop the guns could be used to implement severe gun controls. They also HAD to know that the violence would cross the border & Americans would die. The lengths to which the Dems/Libs/Progs will go to disarm American now knows no bounds. I think what Holder/Obama are so desperate to cover up is that this was a known operation (before Terry was killed) at the highest levels i.e. the WH/Obama/Jarrett, etc. The highest levels of our government are complicit as accessories to murder if nothing else.


18 posted on 07/08/2012 7:28:40 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: bcsco

The enemy is at the helm of the ship of state and it is manned by his crew, my FRiend. Despicable and/or insane cannot adequately describe what these subhuman monsters are capable of.


19 posted on 07/08/2012 7:38:19 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: BCR #226
Remember folks, Obama and Holder murdered American and Mexican citizens for a political agenda.

That's the classic definition of a terrorist. If there is any justice in this world, Holder will be renditioned under NDAA. Hope he likes the weather in Guantanimo.

20 posted on 07/08/2012 7:43:18 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil. Voting for mitt or obie is like throwing your country away.)
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To: Sirius Lee

“If there is any justice in this world, Holder will be renditioned under NDAA. Hope he likes the weather in Guantanimo.”

Only Republicans are prosecuted to that extent.

Sandy Burgler was allowed to STEAL documents from the National Archives because he’s a Democrat.

I can’t remember the last time there was justice in this world.... perhaps right before we allowed Russia to take Berlin.

Hussein’s working overtime to FREE terrorists and land their VOTES.


21 posted on 07/08/2012 8:30:11 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Carbonsteel

“I would sure love to see what’s in the documents that Holder and Obama are going to such great lengths to keep out of the public eye”???
Let’s see, where to begin??
His bith certificate!!
His Social Security number!!
His school records!!
His writings as the editor of the harvard review!!
All concerned with Fast & Furious!!
His leaks of top secret info to help his campaign!!
I can go on here BUT you get the idea


22 posted on 07/08/2012 8:54:19 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Pigsley

Yep that’s right,
I don’t hate obammy cause he’s been the worst president EVER.
REcovery is pathetic, house values have tanked with this clown,jobs are non-existant, taxes and spending on liberal CRAP is at an all time high.
Noooo, I hate this marxist punk simply because he is a negro.
What a croc of crappola.


23 posted on 07/08/2012 9:06:56 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: BCR #226
As for me, after F&F, I will not accept ANY new gun control. The Government has lost ALL legitimacy where firearms are concerned. They have no right to even be involved in gun control at all after what they have done.

I'll take it a bit further for you. With government spending unchecked, is further taxation legitimate? With government regulation a vehicle for shakedowns, is further regulation legitimate?

How much improper action by government necessitates the withdrawal of our support of government? According to those who would govern us, there is no limit, because they act for the common good. In their eyes your refusal of acceptance is illegitimate and of no great concern ( they can not afford to acknowledge concern, because they can not acknowledge such weakness).

In fact, when pushed, they must attack your failure to accept the supremacy of government. To them there is ultimately no legitimacy in any serious dissent. This will continue to the bitter end. It's not going to turn out pretty.

24 posted on 07/08/2012 12:32:33 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: All

25 posted on 07/08/2012 3:16:21 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: marktwain
Among these firearms, two AK-47s were found near Rio Rico, Arizona, where suspected smugglers fatally shot Terry, a 40-year-old former Marine, on December 15, 2010.

Suspected smugglers? Not quite that simple...

FBI Criminal Informant Complicit in Brian Terry’s Death (PJM Exclusive)

The rip crew was in Peck Canyon that evening with the intention of stealing money and drugs from a specific shipment of which they had prior knowledge.

(snip)

The rip crew knew to be in Peck Canyon that December evening because a CI working for the FBI found out about a smuggling run — from the FBI.

(snip)

The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) — through its own CIs and communications intercepts — was also aware of the planned assault.

Neither the DEA nor FBI warned Border Patrol about the expected criminal activity.

(snip)

The federal government will still not reveal if one of the two WASR-10 AK-pattern semi-automatic rifles located near the scene — provided to the Sinaloa cartel via Operation Fast and Furious — was the weapon that put a bullet through Brian Terry’s heart. The existence of a third recovered gun, an SKS carbine, has been disputed by the FBI despite the fact it had been talked about openly in the beginning of the investigation among federal agents.

Multiple sources tell PJM that this third weapon “disappeared” because it was the weapon carried by the FBI CI who ran the rip crew. When it was recovered near the scene of the murder and subsequently traced by the ATF, it traced back to the FBI CI via the gun shop in Texas where it was purchased.

Brian Terry’s murder was entirely preventable. The incompetence of the DEA and FBI let his Border Patrol unit walk into an ambush. After the ambush, it appears the FBI tampered with evidence to cover up that one of their informants was involved with the murder of a federal agent.


26 posted on 07/09/2012 5:58:20 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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