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Historic Bridges of Yosemite Valley Under Siege
San Jose Mercury News / ABC News / AP ^ | 7/7/2012 | Tracie Cone

Posted on 07/08/2012 7:46:08 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom

Perhaps no river crossing in Yosemite Valley has been more photographed than the historic Stoneman Bridge: a single, arching span faced with rough-hewn granite that provides a dramatic foreground to Half Dome, the park's most iconic natural marvel.

Yet the 205-foot bridge is slated for possible removal under proposed plans for restoring the natural flow of the Merced River. As a federally designated "Wild and Scenic River," some say its course should be shaped only by nature as it meanders through the valley — and bridge abutments alter that course.

The future of the roughly 80-year-old Stoneman and two other spandrel arch bridges has pitted environmentalists, who want the river to flow freely, against historic preservationists who say these early examples of the rustic park architectural style are too culturally important to destroy.

"We're talking about nationally significant resources in arguably the best-known national park in the world. What happens in Yosemite has echoes throughout the National Park System," said Anthony Veerkamp of the National Trust for Historic Preservation.

It's why last month the trust placed the Stoneman and two other Yosemite Valley stone-arch bridges threatened with removal — the Ahwahnee Bridge and the Sugar Pine Bridge — on its 2012 most endangered historic places list.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: agenda21; greenies; idiots; kooks; un21; unagenda21; wackos
The insanity of the left never rests, even for one day. Who really gives a rat's patootie if the river doesn't run "wild and freely" through Yosemite National Park? The river manages just fine running underneath these three bridges. It's not like these structures need to be destroyed to preserve fish runs or some other practical purpose. Their removal is solely so the envirokooks can shove their extremism in our faces and show us who's boss.

Given the radicalism of Obama, I wouldn't be surprised to see these bridges destroyed before January. It's probably ranked high on their agenda.

It's hard to believe that our government once built these magnificent structures. That was before the government types got infected with some bizarre disease.


1 posted on 07/08/2012 7:46:13 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I only see two choices...leave things like they are....or remove ever essence of modern world items entirely (bridges, roads, paths, hotels, camp grounds, etc).

Make Yosemite Valley the most unused place on the face of the Earth...even by environmentalists.


2 posted on 07/08/2012 7:57:41 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

That’s really the two choices we face, isn’t it?
How did such a small number of fanatics get to the position of dictating their whims to us? It’s just like the homo lobby...maybe 2% of the population totally upending millennia of social norms and stability.


3 posted on 07/08/2012 8:06:21 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The left and the environmentalists are the Talee-bahn of the USA. They would prefer that we revert to pre-industrial revolution America. In essence they are dangerous lunatics with Unicorn farts for brains.


4 posted on 07/08/2012 8:06:33 AM PDT by rhubarbk
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The left disgusts me.

Seems to me that the bridges of Yellowstone are a means of facilitating the intended purpose of the park. In fact, its going on all over the country.

Last time I was at Pictured Rocks national lakeshore some clown handed me a flier promoting closing the roads to private vehicles and using shuttles instead. I told the first ranger I ran into that if such a plan were implemented, I would not return.


5 posted on 07/08/2012 8:06:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

They are as bad as the radical Muslims that destroy ancient religious symbols.


6 posted on 07/08/2012 8:07:01 AM PDT by Jvette
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To: pepsionice

I conceded the valley floor to the screeming parents, braty kids (and their trash), Japanese tour busses, pooping dogs long ago, and hoards of pilgrmes up to Half Dome, long ago. There is very little that is peaceful or natural in the valley.

I think the enviros have an uphill battle on this one.


7 posted on 07/08/2012 8:08:20 AM PDT by super7man
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

envirowackies are getting to be like Muzzies who destroy Christian icons and other architectual buildings....I am so SICK of these people.


8 posted on 07/08/2012 8:08:23 AM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The lunatics truly are running the asylum.


9 posted on 07/08/2012 8:10:07 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: pepsionice

How about we compromise and just remove the leftists?


10 posted on 07/08/2012 8:10:32 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

That’s a nice looking bridge.

Wonder what the story is on the little door sized arch on the far side?


11 posted on 07/08/2012 8:13:40 AM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
..... some say its course should be shaped only by nature as it meanders through the valley......

There is the town of Tombstone that wants alter boulders and rock after nature did a number on their water rights.

Since 0bama's son doesn't live in Tombstone they are out of luck!

It is sickening to see the US go back to the time when Mohammad walked the earth.

12 posted on 07/08/2012 8:17:42 AM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The goal: to exclude the unwashed (read non-eviroweenies) from as much public land as possible.


13 posted on 07/08/2012 8:17:42 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of LibertyI'm st! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom


We could remove this bridge.
It doesnt fit the natural surroundings.
Perhaps remove people and structures from the surrounding area
and return it to its original pristine state.
14 posted on 07/08/2012 8:19:17 AM PDT by frankenMonkey (This tagline for rent. Inquire within.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
How did such a small number of fanatics get to the position of dictating their whims to us?

By obtaining substantial control over media and education. If they are not ejected from these ranks soon, it's all over.

15 posted on 07/08/2012 8:20:27 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of LibertyI'm st! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“How did such a small number of fanatics get to the position of dictating their whims to us?”

It started with the creation of the EPA.


16 posted on 07/08/2012 8:21:59 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: frankenMonkey
One of my favorites is the Cut River Bridge in Michigan's upper peninsula. Fortunately its on US 2 and is unlikely to go anywhere.

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17 posted on 07/08/2012 8:25:11 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

How about they work on Hetch Hetchy first? Same park. Much bigger impact, since they flooded a whole valley to do it. Some claim a prettier valley than the one in question here.


18 posted on 07/08/2012 8:29:20 AM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: frankenMonkey

Life After People says it’ll fall down in a few hundred years when we’re gone, from lack of maintenance. See UN Agenda 21...


19 posted on 07/08/2012 8:30:42 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik
either maximum span of a stone arch that height had been reached and the bridge wasn’t long enough.
Or the site does not facilitate the use of two large stone arches due to bed rock issues.Two arches would have ruined the view
Or they where just laying around somewhere and the architect thought they would look nice in this bridge.
:)
20 posted on 07/08/2012 8:31:36 AM PDT by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: frankenMonkey

These eviro-whackos remind me of another group of nutjobs. The Muzzies who want or did destroy ancient artifacts and structures in Egypt and other countries. It didn’t “fit” their view of the world.
A pox on all of them.
I’ve been across the GG and the all of the Yosemite bridges many times as a kid, adult, and father with my kids.
I thankfully escaped CA, but I do miss some of the things I was able to do.


21 posted on 07/08/2012 8:32:29 AM PDT by BigpapaBo (If it don't kill you it'll make you _________!)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

I understand it was a horse gate, but eventually claimed by the river due to erosion.


22 posted on 07/08/2012 8:33:36 AM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: frankenMonkey

“We could remove this bridge.
It doesnt fit the natural surroundings.
Perhaps remove people and structures from the surrounding area and return it to its original pristine state.”

Saint Andres will do that sooner or later. To allow an enviro/commie to mandate the timing of that would be blasphemous.

Oops - make that ‘San Andres’ instead of ‘Saint Andres. Better change ‘blasphemous’ to ‘delusional’, too.


23 posted on 07/08/2012 8:35:00 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

It’s for horse riders to pass under the bridge.


24 posted on 07/08/2012 8:40:28 AM PDT by Valpal1
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To: T. P. Pole

mega dittos!!!!!


25 posted on 07/08/2012 8:51:29 AM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: JimRed

They also have money.
Lots and lots of money.


26 posted on 07/08/2012 9:00:47 AM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“How did such a small number of fanatics get to the position of dictating their whims to us?”

I’ll give you the short answer. It’s because millions of conservatives sat on their fat butts and didn’t confront these commies at public meetings. Conservatives didn’t meet these fascists in dark parking lots and read them the riot act. Conservatives were too busy to volunteer their time to sit on planning, building and environmental committees. These commies are outnumbered 50 to 1 in many areas of the country, but they ended up making decisions to control your property because conservatives were busy fishing or installing new cabinets in the kitchen.

If you want liberty, you gotta be involved on every level of government. That fact still hasn’t gotten through to conservatives. The Founders set up committees of safety to deal with the Tories. Conservatives have set up nothing.

Frankly, after nearly 20 years in local government, I’m tired of pointing out the obvious to thick-headed conservatives.

BTW, this isn’t directed at you personally, but generally toward the entire conservative movement.


27 posted on 07/08/2012 9:17:45 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

More crap from our People hating, “dirt-firsters”.

They want to remove man’s footprint from the planet.

This is NOT about “cleaning up” anything.

This is about destroying industry and capitalism.
But, only in the West.

They’re fine with granting exemptions to China and India, who are the world’s worst polluters.


28 posted on 07/08/2012 9:26:45 AM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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To: T. P. Pole
How about they work on Hetch Hetchy first? Same park. Much bigger impact, since they flooded a whole valley to do it. Some claim a prettier valley than the one in question here.


But the water from Hetch Hetchy goes to the libs. in San Fransicko. It must stay.../S

29 posted on 07/08/2012 9:33:05 AM PDT by az_gila
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

From the stone arch on the l/s, it looks like another door entrance/exit. Maybe there were footpaths along the banks, at one time, before the water level rose, or the shoreline eroded, and those were for hikers/fishermen to get by wo/ going up and over the bridge? Just guessing.


30 posted on 07/08/2012 9:36:36 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
This is an excerpt from my most recent book

Cook’s Meadow is less than half the size it was in 1850. The “Restoration” project did nothing about soil or conifer encroachment. Fruit bearing shrubs, annual forbs, and deciduous trees are still under-represented by historical standards. Exotic species are both present and capable of colonizing should a major disturbance ensue. These processes continue today, even though they could eventually displace the meadow entirely. Meanwhile, Chevron, the Park Service, and the Yosemite Foundation get away with promoting the bizarre idea that one can “restore” a living changing thing and walk away believing it has been “preserved for the future.”

Ironically, Yosemite Valley was acquired by force from tribes who would never have let the process get this far. Since they were expelled, “preservation” and fire-suppression have assured that the meadow is eventually doomed, BUT… is that a bad thing? Well, it depends upon what whoever-is-in-charge wants. Pollen studies show that even the grassy meadow was a result of the change in management. 500 years before the Ahwaneechee were expelled; the Valley had been primarily a conifer forest.

Yosemite had been a remote battleground between Miwuk and Paiute tribes, both of whom evidently preferred more productive ground. It is likely that someone eventually torched the conifer forest in Yosemite Valley so that they could make it more productive by farming. It was not at all uncharacteristic for California Indians to introduce and tend crop plants. For example, black oak only spread as far as an animal will carry acorns; they were most likely planted here.

Once the Indians were gone, cattle were brought in for vegetation management; hence the grass. Grass was what the managers wanted. Today, it’s an unhappy struggle between the Park Service, activists, and customers who bring in most of the cash. Tourists want trees, but not if they get in the way of the “Natural” view. They want wildlife, even if the animals preclude growing the plants that would return the Park to its former state. The Park Service acquires its assets by pitching this wacky idea that “Nature” means “no people,” so a chainsaw is out. As the forest heads toward a decadent monoculture ready to explode, the “managers” hold their breath, doing what they can while taking a paycheck from customers they despise. If it burns, the wildlife will just have to “deal with it,” which effectively means if they survive the fire they will starve to death, just like they did in Yellowstone after the 1989 fire.

Most tourists would find a catastrophic fire a hard sell and they don’t like stumps or smoke either, so thinning is out. Nobody would pay much for such crummy trees as they have in Yosemite, even if there was a saw mill within affordable trucking distance (which there isn’t thanks to the same philosophy, never mind that John Muir himself once worked at a sawmill in the Valley). Of course, few care about overstocked trees because most people believe “Nature” should be “preserved.” The problem with that idea is that it is physically impossible.

So, what if the Valley did burn catastrophically, just as it did 650 years ago? How would they re-establish “native” plants without a very destructive weed battle?

The condition of land ultimately reflects the historic preferences of those in charge. Today, it’s “the public,” that is, until the bureaucrats and activists close the Park off to automobiles per the Yosemite Valley Plan, to “save” it from their customers and keep it to themselves (better employee housing is a top priority of the plan). In reality, this hugely unpopular plan is only the first step. The bureaucrats have grander dreams they don’t really tell anybody about, because they know for a fact that most people won’t like what it might take to get there.

Why? Is it all that bad?

Well, like any bureaucratic plan it is hugely expensive, it will employ lots of scientists and consultants who get pay for play, and the outcome will demand minute control over those “annoying” and clueless customers. Fortunately, the goals haven’t been infested with the likes of the Park Service’s preference for cryptogamic crusts in Zion and Canyonlands. They want to “restore” the Valley to a state similar to the way the Indians had it, but note, that is NOT what was “Natural” 500 years before that. The bureaucrats know, just as any rational person would, that people can make the land more productive and beautiful. They want it that way too; most everybody does.

Considering what we saw in Mesa Verde and the Kaibab Plateau, there is reason to doubt their eventual success. Perhaps that is because there is a serious moral problem here besides misrepresenting a product taken at gunpoint from its original owners and then taking the credit for its beauty while not knowing how to run it.

The reality is that there will NEVER be enough people or money to truly bring the land to express its full potential with packs of ravening lawyers, bureaucrats dominated by procedure, manipulative foundations, scientists fanning their egos from ivory towers, and a distracted public imbued with the power of emotive whimsy… ALL trying to call the shots over “their park” from remote locations. Hopefully you have recognized that this is about covetousness for land on the part of every one of these groups without real accountability for a productive outcome.

Restoring land starts with people who live there, know a little spot intimately, and have serious stake in its productivity from generation to generation, effectively a network of private plots, the way it was with the Ahwaneechee.

Why is that so hard to accept? Well, it’s really quite simple: If the Park was cut up into privately controlled plots, it wouldn’t be “our park” any more.

Now to be honest, I once felt possessive about Yosemite too, but you know, since acquiring the commitment to make one of my own, that collectivist urge just isn’t there.

Shemitta: For the Land Is Mine

31 posted on 07/08/2012 9:46:48 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Since the environmentalists are such naturalists, let them stand in the river day and night and hold up the bridge and carry people across on their shoulders like they did in the good old natural days.


32 posted on 07/08/2012 10:26:44 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: BenLurkin

Because the guards at the asylum (Congress) are cowering in fear.


33 posted on 07/08/2012 10:39:01 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: pepsionice

Make Yosemite Valley the most unused place on the face of the Earth...even by environmentalists.


That’s exactly their goal !!!!

I’ve lived and worked in a half dozen national parks.

Park service believes their ultimate goal is to save the parks by not allowing people into areas they control.

NPS would prefer you get on a bus, ride through the park, then go home and tell your congressman to increase their budget for more patrol cars.

(NPS at the grand canyon has a SWAT team, no lie )


34 posted on 07/08/2012 10:43:55 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Remember those commercials with that “I’m a dam-buster” guy? I hated him and those moronic commercials.


35 posted on 07/08/2012 10:52:21 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
How did such a small number of fanatics get to the position of dictating their whims to us?

They have gained the advantage by using the courts. There is no personal downside to the enviro-nazis. Until some of them, perhaps a lot of them, face personal loss for filing lawsuits the lawsuits will continue.

Another problem throughout the "feral gubmint" is the funding by agencies of groups which then "force" those agencies to comply. Elements of the "feral gubmint" have become populated by radicals who have a stake in the game.

36 posted on 07/08/2012 12:44:21 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: Mr. Peabody
They also have money.
Lots and lots of money.

Yep, lots of DINKS.

Dual income, no kids.

37 posted on 07/08/2012 1:54:46 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: frankenMonkey

I would vote for that!

Anything that would destroy San Fransicko would get my approval.


38 posted on 07/08/2012 2:21:45 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I hate pragmatists!)
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