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Indiana militiaman gets back his 41 guns, 100,000 rounds of ammunition from the feds
nydailynews.com ^ | 8 July, 2012 | Jason Fields

Posted on 07/08/2012 4:00:20 PM PDT by marktwain

Thomas Piatek, member of the Hutaree militia, was charged with plotting to kill police officers and overthrow the government, but was acquitted by a judge in March who cited insuffient evidence.

An admitted militiaman got 41 guns and more than 100,000 rounds of ammunition back from the government Friday.

The guns were confiscated when Thomas Piatek and six other members of the Hutaree militia were arrested in 2009 on charges that they planned to kill police officers and overthrow the government. He was acquitted in March, when a federal judge, Victoria Roberts, found there was insufficient evidence in the case. Piatek and the others then petitioned to get their weapons back.

The implements of destructions — which included an AK-47, handguns, shotguns, crossbows and swords — required two trips to take home, according to TV station WLS.

When Piatek arrived to pick up his property from the Hammond, Ind., police station, he was already packing heat.

“Just a piece, you know, whatever," Piatek said, according to WLS. "You got a phone, keys, whatever. It ain't a thing with me."

Other members of the militia also got their guns back, but none had a collection to rival Piatek’s.

Piatek also got back military helmets, bulletproof vests, $100 cash and his cell phone, the Detroit Free Press reports.

The judge let weapons charges stand against two members of the militia, including its leader, David Stone Sr. Both pleaded guilty to possessing a machine gun, a federal crime.

“This is a victory for the Constitution," Piatek's lawyer Arthur Weiss, who accompanied his client, said.

jfields@nydailynews.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; hutaree; in
Good news. There should be a grand jury convened to see if the prosecutor brought this case for political purposes.
1 posted on 07/08/2012 4:00:25 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Its an Indiana story but connected to Michigan. One of these guys lives less than a mile from me.

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2 posted on 07/08/2012 4:08:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: marktwain

This judge is a black female Clinton appointee. It sounds like the feds were sure that they had convictions locked up and she slapped them down.


3 posted on 07/08/2012 4:11:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: marktwain

Had a similar militia in Alaska in the news, except they were convicted.

First off the Feds WILL go after a private militia.

Instead the individuals states, especially red states opting out of Obamacare should offer to “cover” these groups providing they pass muster of key requirements.

Now we have the beginning of a Continental Militia, cells of smaller militia groups all sworn to defend the state and the Constitution.


4 posted on 07/08/2012 4:13:21 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Going mobile, posts will be brief. No spellcheck for the grammar nazis.)
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To: cripplecreek; All

The Clinton selection team must have really messed up. It sounds as though this judge has some integrity.


5 posted on 07/08/2012 4:13:46 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: cripplecreek

“This judge is a black female Clinton appointee. It sounds like the feds were sure that they had convictions locked up and she slapped them down.”

She should, as “The Racist Origins Of Gun Control” defines so well.

Google it, you will enjoy it.


6 posted on 07/08/2012 4:14:26 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: marktwain

What is an “admitted militiaman”?

Isn’t every able bodied male between the ages of 15 and 60 a member of the militia?


7 posted on 07/08/2012 4:21:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: GladesGuru

I’m well aware of Dr Ossian Sweet and the origins of gun control in Michigan.


8 posted on 07/08/2012 4:21:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Eye of Unk

The estimated numbers of Militia in Michigan are around 20,000. Pro militia sentiment is considerably larger.


9 posted on 07/08/2012 4:26:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

“This judge is a black female Clinton appointee. It sounds like the feds were sure that they had convictions locked up and she slapped them down.”

____

Hats off to her.


10 posted on 07/08/2012 4:27:10 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: marktwain

The judge lectures at UofM.

http://web.law.umich.edu/_FacultyBioPage/facultybiopagenew.asp?ID=387


11 posted on 07/08/2012 4:36:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: marktwain
An admitted militiam

lulz. Seriously, do any free American Citizens take this crap for real?
12 posted on 07/08/2012 4:37:18 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: marktwain
There should be a grand jury convened to see if the prosecutor brought this case for political purposes.

Yep. But for some reason criminal penalties are not associated with violations of federal law, when applied to congress critters. They should be.
13 posted on 07/08/2012 4:50:06 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: cripplecreek

And yet... Dearbornistan...


14 posted on 07/08/2012 4:51:30 PM PDT by karnage
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To: karnage

Dearborn is a couple square miles of a fairly large state and the total muslim population of the state is only around 1%. I only live some 70 miles away and haven’t seen a muslim in years.


15 posted on 07/08/2012 5:06:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
I've always read of the militia movement or ‘larger’ numbers of militia men in Michigan in the past. Has it always been like that in Michigan or has this been a recent movement, say since the 60’s onward?
16 posted on 07/08/2012 5:18:17 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: marktwain

I remember when this story first broke that it sounded like a bunch of leftist propaganda. Part of an effort to deflect attention away from Muslim and left-wing terrorists and pretend that it was right-wing militias that were the real danger.

It was obvious that they had done nothing wrong. But it’s good to know that there is an honest judge out there, who refused to go along with the lies.


17 posted on 07/08/2012 5:21:31 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Theoria

I don’t think its a recent thing. I think it actually goes back to the days when Michigan was a territory. My great grandmother used to speak of the state militia.


18 posted on 07/08/2012 5:24:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: karnage; cripplecreek

“Raaht, [we]’ve been watchin’ ‘em.”*

...and should they come out...

We’ve been ready since 9/11.

*Chuck Yeager, over Europe in WW2, on receiving a spot report of German fighters in the area


19 posted on 07/08/2012 5:33:02 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Romney Sucks. Mutiny Now, or something.)
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To: ExGeeEye

There are a good many middle eastern Christians in Michigan who would like a crack at them too.


20 posted on 07/08/2012 5:35:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: marktwain

Were they given back in working condition? Cops in certain places are known to have a habit of damaging them while in evidence. One case was a buddy of mine who got his gun back, finally, and it was written/painted on the barrel, slide, magazine to the point it had to be sent back to Glock for cleaning and repair.


21 posted on 07/08/2012 5:39:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Eye of Unk

80 million gun owners are 80 million militias right there.


22 posted on 07/08/2012 5:41:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: marktwain

I’d suggest that he check them carefully to make sure that no serial numbers were filed off while they were gone. Needs to check for other possible modifications, as well.


23 posted on 07/08/2012 6:05:16 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: marktwain

He should have every gun examined by a good gunsmith. I would be very interested in the state of the firing pins


24 posted on 07/08/2012 6:39:23 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: PAR35

I don’t think this fellow will fail to inspect and test each and every gun.


25 posted on 07/08/2012 6:45:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew)
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To: marktwain

Feds are desperate to find non-Muslim terrorists.


26 posted on 07/08/2012 7:01:03 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: marktwain
Other members of the militia also got their guns back, but none had a collection to rival Piatek’s.

He who dies with the most toys wins!

27 posted on 07/09/2012 7:16:42 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: marktwain

The Feds are not going to let this one slide. The utter contempt for constitutional rights displayed by the prosecutors is no less then criminal malfeasance. Guilt by association? Ill perceived view of sedition and insurrection against the Unites States of America? If they were trying to send a message, it backfired spectacularly. It would be interesting to find out how much the snitch was paid.

We are in trouble with this Gestapo mentality.
It cost him 2 years of his life, garnered support for gun owners and is deepening the mistrust and lack of confidence of in law enforcement. The Feds have nobody to blame but themselves.


28 posted on 07/09/2012 3:26:40 PM PDT by PatrickHenryFreedom1776
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