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Tom Cruise, other Scientology members dislike portrayal of a cult leader in new film 'The Master'
Daily News ^ | 7/8/12

Posted on 07/08/2012 7:39:00 PM PDT by Nachum

Tom Cruise’s fellow Scientology members would like to master “The Master.”

A source familiar with Paul Thomas Anderson ’s film about the founder of a Scientology-like religious movement tells us officials of the controversial church group “hit the roof” when they learned — presumably through Cruise — that the movie contains a scene which suggests the belief system was little more than a product of the leader’s fertile imagination.

In May, Anderson, who is friends with Cruise and directed him in “Magnolia,” the 1999 film that earned Cruise a Best Supporting Actor Oscar nomination — reportedly screened his film for the “Rock of Ages” star.

“The Master” is said to be loosely based on the life of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard, and stars Philip Seymour Hoffman as Lancaster Dodd, the founder of a 1950s religious movement called The Cause.

Hubbard, a onetime writer of pulp and science fiction , founded the Church of Scientology in the ’50s.

Both the Wrap.com and Huffington Post reported other similarities between the fictional Dodd and the late Hubbard.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: cruise; cult; hollywood; moviereview; scientology; tom
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1 posted on 07/08/2012 7:39:07 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Must be because it’s true.


2 posted on 07/08/2012 7:43:26 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Nachum

Hubbard was a crackpot and anyone who follows his demented “religion” is a dim bulb. So there, Cruise.


3 posted on 07/08/2012 7:48:50 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Nachum

Does the movie go into the relationship between L. Ron Hubbard, Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley?


4 posted on 07/08/2012 7:52:30 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: beethovenfan

You’ll be surprised at how far up the food chain these white shirt, navy pants zombies are in the studios. They have the biggest buildings in the Hollywood vicinity, aside from the major studios.

Most of them walk around with their Dianetics book and when you ask them “do you actually believe this sh*t about those 737’s dropping souls into volcanoes?”, they don’t answer but give you the stare. Then again, I must be jealous because I wished I cam up with this scam involving an alien named Lord Xenu.


5 posted on 07/08/2012 7:52:52 PM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: beethovenfan

I’m pretty sure Hubbard had the same opinion of anyone who followed “his religion”. His whole purpose was to demonstrate how gullible people could be.


6 posted on 07/08/2012 7:57:48 PM PDT by cbvanb
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To: beethovenfan

*shrug* I was only in for a decade or so...


7 posted on 07/08/2012 8:03:16 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1264 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: null and void

How were you introduced to it?


8 posted on 07/08/2012 8:07:38 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: null and void

Lisa McPherson spent $175,000
http://www.lisamcpherson.org/spt10-31.htm

More importantly, Scientology was taking care of her for 17 days before her death.

You were lucky you got out.

The sound is bad..but here is David Miscavige blaming Eli Lilly and Germany for Lisa Mcpherson’s death.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yO9VV11V1kE


9 posted on 07/08/2012 8:20:03 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: nolongerademocrat
Does the movie go into the relationship between L. Ron Hubbard, Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley?

Any scenario where Crowley is the "one sane man"* of a trio is pretty wacky.




*or at least Larry to Hubbard's Moe and Parson's Curley.

10 posted on 07/08/2012 8:20:28 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Literals will believe anything.)
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To: Army Air Corps

By a fellow student in college.


11 posted on 07/08/2012 8:21:06 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1264 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: Nachum

Until Greta “The Brown County Kid” Von Cistern has an hour long program there is nothing to see here.


12 posted on 07/08/2012 8:22:03 PM PDT by TaMoDee ( Lassez les bons temps rouler dans les 2012! Allez Pack!)
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To: RummyChick
You were lucky you got out.

Oh yeah, BIG time!

13 posted on 07/08/2012 8:22:24 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1264 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: cbvanb

Hubbard founded Scientology to win a bet that he could get people to believe anything. Obviously he won.


14 posted on 07/08/2012 8:25:31 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is, it is the only answer.)
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To: null and void
*shrug* I was only in for a decade or so...

What was it like?

15 posted on 07/08/2012 8:25:48 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: RummyChick

for those that don’t want to listen to David snow his people about a case many of them probably didn’t even know about

Eli Lilly, Germany, ex FBI , St Petersburg Times, local government, mafia who wanted a casino , all wanted to take down Scientology using Lisa McPherson (she had taken the evil Prozac)...but the great and powerful David made them change the information and all was well- except Lisa McPherson who died on the way to a hospital more than 20 miles away rather than go to one about a mile away.


16 posted on 07/08/2012 8:33:52 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Nachum

Philip Seymour Hoffman? Excellent choice. He’s good at playing dodgy bastards.


17 posted on 07/08/2012 8:35:20 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: null and void

What was the pitch? I ask because I am curious about how long it takes for them to introduce newbies to the Xenu stuff.


18 posted on 07/08/2012 8:40:13 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: HangnJudge

Wonderful, fun, ok, annoying, horrible, terrifying.


19 posted on 07/08/2012 8:41:38 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1264 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: RummyChick

Would you like to be able to get a tax break for your child’s religious education. Say you were spending $24,000 a year.

Join Scientology - you get a tax break

Orthodox Jew- Oy Vey, not allowed.

You have to be one of the IRS chosen people. Only the group of people covered by a secret agreement with the IRS.

http://www.frouman.com/2008/02/11/scientology-tax-break-case-back-in-court/


20 posted on 07/08/2012 8:42:24 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Army Air Corps

In High School, one of my friend’s family got into Scientology. I think it was called Dianetics. The Dad was a Chiropractor (what is it with Scientology and Chripractors?)

Anyway, they talked about the power of your mind, blah, blah, blah, and then did some silly “exercises” to show the energy we produced with our minds.

Except all of these “exercise” were things that kids do at Slumber Parties..like everyone pushing their arms down in a circle, then lifting someone efforlessly, or sitting next to each other, and doing some static elecricity thing with a balloon, then everyone touching gets a little shock.

So, everyone there thought it was a big crock, but the Chiropractor and his family moved to Hollywood, the kids became recruiters. One died mysteriously after we heard he wanted to leave..


21 posted on 07/08/2012 8:43:28 PM PDT by sockmonkey (She could never be a saint, but she thought she could be a martyr if they killed her quick)
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To: Army Air Corps

http://www.xenu.net/archive/ot/

There are the levels.

Anne Archer’s Son must not have been OT III

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7EEOMbBIO8


22 posted on 07/08/2012 8:45:18 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Army Air Corps

What was the pitch? I ask because I am curious about how long it takes for them to introduce newbies to the Xenu stuff.
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From what I’ve read.....they don’t get into the “Xenu stuff” until OT (Operating Thetan) Level. IOW.........after A LOT of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.


23 posted on 07/08/2012 8:50:55 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Wings cannot be redistributed, they can only be broken. ~ Oleg Atbashian (People's Cube))
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To: Army Air Corps

The general pitch is that scn can make you more able.

It can. But the big print giveth, and the fine print taketh away.

Newbies are NEVER, EVER, EVER introduced to the Xenu stuff.

According to scn dogma, mere exposure to those materials to someone not ready for them can result in death.


24 posted on 07/08/2012 8:50:55 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1264 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: Army Air Corps

Oh, and we also all got free Dianetics books, and found it all really stupid, boring, and hard to get into.

Except for the Chiropractor..he thought it was the cat’s pajamas. This was a small town in TX,btw-about 2500 people or less. Most everybody in town was either Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian, or Catholic. I wonder if growing up in a “Churchy” environment keeps people from joining Scientology.


25 posted on 07/08/2012 8:51:05 PM PDT by sockmonkey (She could never be a saint, but she thought she could be a martyr if they killed her quick)
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To: Nachum
http://images.wikia.com/fallout/images/d/d1/FO01_NPC_Master_B.png

I knew they would make a Fallout movie one day.

Suck on that Tom Cruise.

26 posted on 07/08/2012 8:52:52 PM PDT by KC_Lion (The Supreme Court issued their ruling on Obamacare. Soon, We the People shall issue ours.)
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To: Nachum

Hey Tom! You know, “If the shoe fits, - - - “ and all that.

BTW, are all cult leaders Babe Magnets?


27 posted on 07/08/2012 8:53:01 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: RummyChick

this is a good time to bring in the tape that started Tom’s downfall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0


28 posted on 07/08/2012 8:53:06 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: null and void

According to scn dogma, mere exposure to those materials to someone not ready for them can result in death.
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Yep. Death by pneumonia.


29 posted on 07/08/2012 8:53:21 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Wings cannot be redistributed, they can only be broken. ~ Oleg Atbashian (People's Cube))
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To: sockmonkey
Oh, and we also all got free Dianetics books, and found it all really stupid, boring, and hard to get into.

I read it through in one night, started scn the next weekend.

Go figure...

30 posted on 07/08/2012 8:55:25 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1264 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: null and void

Ah, so they wait until you have poured a buttload of money into the programme before they unleash the Xenu story on folks. Don’t they encourage current members to recruit more wallets, er, members?


31 posted on 07/08/2012 8:56:26 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Graewoulf
BTW, are all cult leaders Babe Magnets?

It's good to be the King!

32 posted on 07/08/2012 8:57:25 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1264 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: Nachum

I would LOVE to know what is in that huge vault in the desert.

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=1538


33 posted on 07/08/2012 8:58:23 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Wings cannot be redistributed, they can only be broken. ~ Oleg Atbashian (People's Cube))
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To: Army Air Corps
Don’t they encourage current members to recruit more wallets, er, members?

Yes, with extra training on how to, and a percentage of whatever the newbie spends.

34 posted on 07/08/2012 8:59:48 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1264 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: RummyChick

and Craig Fergson as Tom Cruise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEJ3a5ZMY1Y


35 posted on 07/08/2012 9:02:26 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

“We’re her to help.”

God lawd.....WHERE have I heard that before?????

Typical “Utopianists”. Had the same, damn argument with Jehovas Witnesses. I.E.......WE CANNOT create a utopia on earth. It’s impossible....until HE returns.


36 posted on 07/08/2012 9:02:38 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Wings cannot be redistributed, they can only be broken. ~ Oleg Atbashian (People's Cube))
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To: null and void

Man, it sounds like an MLM.


37 posted on 07/08/2012 9:03:34 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: null and void

“Kaja Bordevich Ballo (1988 – March 28, 2008) was a university student in the French town of Nice; her father was Olav Gunnar Ballo, a member of the Norwegian Parliament. On March 28, 2008 Kaja Ballo took the personality test run by the Church of Scientology, and subsequently committed suicide. Family and friends stated that Ballo was happy prior to taking the test, and that her mood dramatically shifted after receiving the results. She committed suicide hours after getting the results of the test back; Ballo jumped from the fourth floor of her dorm room.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kaja_Ballo


38 posted on 07/08/2012 9:03:58 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Lawdy! Isn’t THAT what Obama and the ‘progs’ want for ALL of us???? Listen to his words, people! THEY are superior and are ‘here to help’. And we’re just (SP’s) ‘suppressive peoples’ if we don’t believe! Not ‘suggestive’......but DEMANDING. Christians ‘recommend’. Cults DEMAND.


39 posted on 07/08/2012 9:09:49 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Wings cannot be redistributed, they can only be broken. ~ Oleg Atbashian (People's Cube))
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To: Army Air Corps

Nah, MLMs pay better.


40 posted on 07/08/2012 9:09:49 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1264 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: RummyChick

I think this is the BEST one, imho! I laugh every time I view it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjGmZJu8OnY


41 posted on 07/08/2012 9:13:38 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Wings cannot be redistributed, they can only be broken. ~ Oleg Atbashian (People's Cube))
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To: null and void
I read it through in one night, started scn the next weekend.

I guess we were more interested in fishing, deer hunting, going "parking", going to dances, and stuff like that.

42 posted on 07/08/2012 9:14:17 PM PDT by sockmonkey (She could never be a saint, but she thought she could be a martyr if they killed her quick)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

someone who worked on the vault
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/02/scientologys_se.php

“I told him I understood that concept, but why the big logo visible from the air (which at that time was still being planned)?

“That’s where LRH is supposed to go, when he returns,” Gill says. Once Hubbard adopts a new body, he’s expected to make his way to one of the CST bases. “That’s where he’s supposed to be raised and be taken care of,” Gill says. “So the symbol is a way for a spirit to find its way back to where it belongs.””


43 posted on 07/08/2012 9:17:19 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: sockmonkey

Probably so. I was struggling studying engineering, and didn’t have much of a life...


44 posted on 07/08/2012 9:20:47 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1264 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: RummyChick

Thanks! I knew of one up in the Seattle area.


45 posted on 07/08/2012 9:29:19 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1264 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: nolongerademocrat

Read “Sex and Rockets”


46 posted on 07/08/2012 9:43:42 PM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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To: max americana

Somebody told me once that whole Scientology scam uses a persons pride as a means of control. It scams a person out of most if not all of their money, and then it can go two ways; The person accepts they’ve been scammed or they do not accept it.

A lot do not accept it and out of pride force themselves to believe that BS. “I just spent all this money. It must be true! I am not that gullible! I just spent half a million for a lemon! It must work!”

That’s my take on Cruise. I don’t think he’s gay, there is no proof of that. And even if he is, that’s not what is driving him. Rather he has such a huge ego he can’t admit he’s been duped, so he goes along with it convincing himself that this Scientology crap is for real, the space aliens, Xenu, Thetans etc. which is why he gets highly defensive and takes it personally when somebody questions it to his face. He doesn’t want to be exposed as a fool, a sucker. He cannot accept the truth (or as Jack Nicholson would say “You can’t handle the truth!”) even if it mean his career and family.

This is why Scientologists are adamantly opposed to psychiatry and psychologists because shrinks can help these people to get over that hurdle, accept such a huge blow to their self esteem. Either way, the scam seems to be firmly entrenched in the US like a tic. We should take a cue from the French


47 posted on 07/08/2012 10:13:51 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Army Air Corps

A recent post on Tony Ortega’s Village Voice coverage said it was a mix of Amway & mafia.


48 posted on 07/08/2012 10:17:47 PM PDT by MonicaG (God bless our military! Praying and thanking God for you every day. Thank you!)
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To: null and void
I read it through in one night, started scn the next weekend.

A couple of years ago I found a huge selection of used Scientology books for sale at my local library. I didn't buy them, but noted they were gone upon my next library visit. I had to wonder if the person who donated them to the library did so for the purpose of indoctrinating someone/anyone.

49 posted on 07/08/2012 10:53:01 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: Nachum
Inside a Scientology Compound. Looks like a cool space ship.

v


50 posted on 07/08/2012 10:58:49 PM PDT by garjog
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