Posted on 07/09/2012 6:32:38 AM PDT by Kaslin
Feeling misled? You certainly should. Congress created a law so complex that it occupies between 2,400 and 2,800 pages depending on who says what, almost all of them unread by the people who voted for it. President Obama and his Democratic colleagues told you many things about the law most of which were either mischaracterizations or outright lies. What Chief Justice John Roberts did was tell the truth, and now we can move forward.
This is all on Chief Justice Roberts. The four liberals who concurred with him dont believe that the individual mandate is a tax. They firmly believed that the government had the right under the commerce clause to expand the power of the federal government in a sweeping manner. They inherently believe in these matters that the government has few limitations. They were so convinced of that they appeared to be willing to emasculate the commerce clause to expand the federal governments grip over 18% of our economy. The four signed on to what Roberts wrote and sacrificed the future of their souls for achieving their goals today. But the question remains did they sacrifice anything?
Roberts did do two major things in his opinion. First, he stated the court has limited powers to control the legislative branch. In effect, he told Americans that You elected these people, they are your representatives, and you have to live with their actions. Second, he put a stop to the damnable lies about taxes. Politicians lie all the time about the manner in which they extract increasing amounts from your pocket, usually calling them fees, dues, excise fees, duties, levies, or something else. Roberts just confirmed what we all know: if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck it is a duck. Remember this penalty -- which is estimated to hit four million Americans -- is to be collected by the 20,000 new IRS agents. Roberts may have done it for contrived reasons, but elected officials can never again claim that additional money going to government is anything other than a tax.
Even the best and brightest are still duped by the verbiage. Charles Krauthammer said that hes open to fines, but not taxes. What hes missing is that fines are now much more than mere penalties; a parking ticket that used to cost $20 is now $50 and is used to balance the city budget. A fine levied against a corporation by the SEC doesnt go to the aggrieved stockholders, but to the coffers of the federal government; what was once $500,000 has become $5,000,000. States love delinquent taxpayers because they rake in huge fines that get increased with every budget shortfall. Fines are nothing more than a duck not called a duck.
But now we can have an honest debate about the value of the Affordable Care Act, which, frankly, is a complete fraud. Its supporters tout that children up to 26 years old can remain on their parents plans, but never mention that the parents must then pay for comprehensive insurance plans that cost substantially more than healthy young adults can obtain on their own. They applaud the elimination of lifetime caps on payments by insurance companies without pointing out the obvious consequence that premiums will increase significantly to cover these costs. And these are just two of many misleading claims.
Now we must convey how deceptive this law is at its core. If you dont believe me, believe Obamas Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration. He stated The ACA represents the largest set of tax law changes in more than 20 years and presents a major challenge to the Internal Revenue Service. It includes 20 new taxes (now 21 after Roberts ruling), few of which have gone into effect and most of which are deviously imposed on us by raising them on third parties. For example, there is a new tax on medical devices that will be passed through to insurance companies and then, of course, to policyholders (you). Democrats have already imposed a new tax on pharmaceutical companies, which raises the cost of your prescriptions through higher premiums or larger out-of-pocket costs. Americans need to familiarize themselves with these 21 new taxes and realize that when our medical costs and insurance premiums costs soar, it is ultimately ObamaCare that is responsible. Furthermore, these tax rates will inevitably increase, with the overwhelming portion of the burden squarely on the shoulders of the middle class. Thats because thats where the money is.
We have to inform the American people that there are 157 commissions and boards that will start going into effect in 2013. These will be filled with government wonk types convinced that they know how the health care system should operate. They will write thousands of pages of regulations and make decisions for every one of us. Your health care will no longer be determined by you or your doctor.
We now have a moment of clarity. The mandate is what everybody, except the lawyers for the President, was unwilling to call it. ObamaCare is a huge tax increase that will hit every working American specifically the working class upon whom Obama promised not to raise taxes. The law will put a stranglehold around the neck of all Americans, and ultimately centralize every decision about health care in Washington.
Democrats have created their mantra this is over, lets move on. Mr. Romney must, with the help of all of us, communicate to the electorate that ObamaCare is a disaster. Justice Roberts has given us that opportunity. If we cannot accomplish this goal, we deserve to lose the election a loss that would put an end to the America we know.
Roomey needs to address the voters as the Communist Team Obama is defining Roomey without a responce or attacks on Obama.
Its seems I seen this picture before
Just keep saying “there is no free lunch” over and over again to drive the point home.
The wealthy cannot pay for this entire bill. They do not have enough.....therefore, the middle class must pay so we can continue to give away things to the growing class of people already receiving unemployment benefits, disability benefits and food stamps.
Sorry, it is Roberts fault. Obama is a Confirmed Socialist. Roberts deviated far from the Constitution.
but we have the FIRST DARK SKINNED PRESIDENT, therefore, NONE of this matters!
Besides, if it causes any hardship, clearly it is Bush’s fault!
Anything that goes wrong up to 100 years from now will be Bush’s fault.
I blame both.
I have a different view of the Roberts decision on Obamacare. I am actually happy that Roberts voted the way he did. Why? Because, the approval decision by the Supreme Court, insures that not one employer large or small will hire one new employee unless it is absolutely essential to the survival of their business.
Not knowing the deadly cost impact of this nightmare that Obama foisted on the nation, will cause a major holdback in hiring new employees until after Obama is defeated. It is amazing to me that the four liberal “dirt bags” on the court fell hook, line and sinker for the Roberts ploy!!!
Maybe Roberts really isn’t the turncoat we think he is!!! We will soon find out, come November 6, 2012!!! If you have any inkling of a brain, you will vote to defeat Obama and the entire Democrat Party!!!
Roberts is to blame.
I am tired of the Rino weenies and their pals in so called conservative media twisting into pretzels to justify the back stabbing that Robert did.
What’s going to defeat 0bamacare are the hard truths of reality.
The “Gods of the Copybook Headings”...
Exactly....Roberts voted WITH Kagan, Sotomayor, Ginsburg and Breyer....that’s the only relevant fact to the discussion, the rest is irrelevant.
Roberts has put a force field around ObamaCare that cannot be broken.
For turning over the office to someone not constitutionally eligible!
He wrote his opinion with only himself. All the other disagreed with his reasoning.
To those who claim Roberts was playing chess while his detractors were playing checkers, I suggest that you work on completing that analogy by comparing the opinions of Roberts against Thomas, Scalia, Kennedy and Alito. Roberts was playing tiddlywinks. Or beer pong.
Not to mention nominating Judas Roberts in the first place.
Bingo
Roberts Republicans, they are.
I agree completely with you. I am not mad at Chief Justice Roberts. I am just disappointed that he let himself get bullied by the arrogant, pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and the democrats, especially Senator leaky Leahy of Vermont. November can’t come soon enough
It IS Bush’s fault.
Reagan’s leacy was another GOP president.
Bush I’s legacy was eight years of Bill Clinton.
Bush II’s legacy looks like eight years of Obama.
Yeah. I blame Bush II for spending like a drunken sailor - with our Tax Dollars, bailing out the banks and businesses with OUR Tax dollars and turning victories in Iraq and Afghanistan into LENGTHY “crusades” (dare I say that?)to attempt the impossible - changing Muslim savages into cilivized human beingsd at the cost of millions of tax dollars and rivers of American blood. NOT TO MENTION, allwoing an ARMY of illegals across our southern border, and setting up the Office of Homeland Security and the TSA and the “Patriot Act” to permit a future Democrat Regime to use all of this against Americans instead of the followers of the “Peaceful” Religion.
AND how about Roberts? Talk about a wing-ding appointment. He almost makes Souter look sane.
Yeah, Jorge, I miss uyou a lot - and your worthless father - NOT!!!!
"When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."
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Is this guy even listening to what obama and co. are saying right now? This is exactly what they are doing. They keep denying it's a tax. The GOP's fatal flaw is they really believe the Democrats follow rulings. For them, SCOTUS is just a means to an end. The 4 liberals didn't sell their souls, they collected Roberts'. If by some miracle Romney wins, there's no reason Robert's shouldn't be impeached and thrown out.
More like Crack Pipe.
First of all it's President Bush to you.
Second: Did you vote for McCain or sit the election out?
And finally Third, You know damn well President Bush was ineligible to run again, Or did you expect him to proclaim a EO that there would no presidential election in 2008?
You are really stretching it beyond idiotic
I think I agree that it is Republicans job to defeat this, just as it was Dems to pass it into law.
Many Republicans thought they could get the SCOTUS to do it so Republicans could avoid getting any blame for doing it.
he told Americans that You elected these people, they are your representatives, and you have to live with their actions.
Not if their actions are unconstitutional, which is what you are supposed to determine, Mr. Roberts.
LLS
Roberts is responsible for his own actions.
No, this country was destroyed by a communist and a republican Judas appointed by George W. Bush.
Those are the facts.
He also states that using the Commerce Clause to justify any restrictions IS unconstitutional. This is VERY important in a lot of respects.
Take the National CCW Bill. This would be a conforming of 'the several states' to uniform recognition of other states CCW laws.
A real plus, right? If passed in the form it is in, CONGRESS would have the option to regulate it(certain carry, transportation, specific types of weapons permissible) and creation of a database, based on the states records of gun owners. And ALL of that could be done using the Commerce Clause to implement.
Secondly, the MANDATE is struck down, defanging OblunderCare from its funding. But the tax is still in place you say? Wait until it is implemented, the lawsuits about Equal Protection will reach the courts and that will kill it, unless Congress acts.
The Medicaid coercion is struck down. You can't hold states hostage for Federal money if they don't expand MC coverage, which also raises taxes.
There was a LOT that was good in Roberts ruling. The argument about not being able to bring the case to the Supremes because the 'TAXING' doesn't start until 2013 is now in play.
This is just my two cents.
You stand with Roberts, I’ll stand with Scalia.
He is!!!
We will soon find out, come November 6, 2012!!!
So your support for this ruling is based on the outcome of an election, rather than whether its constitutional. Is that respecting the Constitution, in your opinion?
If you have any inkling of a brain, you will vote to defeat Obama and the entire Democrat Party!!!
Better take someone into the voting booth, then, to help you put the 'x' in the right box.

Or skin flute.
Scalia would have thrown it out and said start over. And if there was a Congress willing to work on what needs to be implemented I could agree to that.
But we don't have a working Congress, and those policies already implemented would have put a lot of the country in chaos.
Besides, I think Roberts did the one thing that was totally unexpected. Enflamed the RIGHT and all conservatives out of the doldrums for November. Had he gone the other way, Oblunder would have another 4 years.
1. Any restrictions on what is unconstitutional?
2. Where does he say it?
Why not blame both? There’s plenty to go around.
So you are saying President Bush should have known that Chief Justice Roberts would let himself get bullied by that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, the drive-by Media and Senator Patrick J. leaky Leahy of Vermont?
I doubt very much, you get any more ridiculous than that
I've got a home in Glory Land.
Forgive me my joy will ya? I only wish to share it.
PS I didn't vote for Mc Lame.
I voted for Sarah!
Yes, I am saying exactly that.
Do you think Barack Obama appointed ANYONE AT ALL to the SCOTUS whom he doesn’t know EXACTLY how they will vote?
Are you kidding me!? It is quite apparent to me that democrats play to win and republicans play to lose.
Yes, George W. Bush should have known who he appointed, because he clearly did not know who he appointed, and that person ended American freedom.
Just a continutation of endless republican stupidity...
The bill was clearly presented as NOT being a tax. If it was a tax bill, it would have had ZERO chance of passing.
I understand his opinion that it IS a tax. However, Roberts job was then to say: “As written (not a tax), this bill is unconstitutional. However, Congress, you may amend the bill and call it a tax. And if you do, it is our opinion that it will be Constitutional.”
Then it would have gone back to Congress and probably failed. This is how our system of checks and balances is supposed to work.
However, he changed the act, and called it something that it clearly wasn’t intended to be. The fact is that he used his postiion as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court to re-write legislation affecting a sixth of our economy.
His reasons don’t matter; Roberts blatantly decided to NOT do what he swore on the bible to do.
And for that, he should be impeached.
"The individual mandate, however, does not regulate existing commercial activity. It instead compels individuals to become active in commerce by purchasing a product, on the ground that their failure to do so affects interstate commerce.
Construing the Commerce Clause to permit Congress to regulate individuals precisely because they are doing nothing would open a new and potentially vast domain to congressional authority. Congress already possesses expansive power to regulate what people do.
Upholding the Affordable Care Act under the Commerce Clause would give Congress the same license to regulate what people do not do.
The Framers knew the difference between doing something and doing nothing. They gave Congress the power to regulate commerce, not to compel it. Ignoring that distinction would undermine the principle that the Federal Government is a government of limited and enumerated powers. The individual mandate thus cannot be sustained under Congresss power to regulate Commerce.
Just a continutation of endless republican stupidity...
Tell me which one of your third party, whichever it is and your third party candidate whoever that is has won elections and is part of Congress?
Once they do then come back to me
Just a continutation of endless republican stupidity...
Tell me which one of your third party, whichever it is and your third party candidate whoever that is has won elections and is part of Congress?
Once they do then come back to me
yipee.
I DON’T HAVE A THIRD PARTY, KASLIN!
You keep asking me that OVER AND OVER, but apparently you don’t ever read my answer.
I’m a republican! Do you understand that? And it is from inside this worthless party that I tell you REPUBLICANS PLAY TO LOSE! NOTHING COULD BE MORE OBVIOUS.
WE LOST OUR FREEDOM, in part, DUE TO A STINKING REPUBLICAN!
I would yell at you to wake up, but it doesn’t matter a hill of beans if you do or not, BECAUSE WE ALREADY LOST.
Tell that to someone who will buy that. I sure don't
Im a republican! Do you understand that? And it is from inside this worthless party that I tell you REPUBLICANS PLAY TO LOSE! NOTHING COULD BE MORE OBVIOUS.
I find it interesting that you claim to be a republican, but in the same breath you say you REPUBLICANS. What is that supposed to mean?
And finally
WE LOST OUR FREEDOM, in part, DUE TO A STINKING REPUBLICAN!
My suggestion to you is: Go see a shrink that can help get over your Bush derangement syndrome. You sure can use his help
I can tell you don’t buy it as you continue to ask me what my third party is despite my telling you repeatedly that I don’t have one.
Thanks for thinking I’m I liar just the same though...
When I refer to myself as a republican, that is a singular term, and I use the singluar referring to myself as a singular person. When I say republicans, I am speaking of republicans in general, including the GOP establisment, considering that there is obviously more than one person in that group of people I’m referring to, I use the plural form of the “republican”.
Shouldn’t be too hard to figure out, I mean, for someone that isn’t a republican in utter denial of reality that is...
A typical Roberts Republican position.
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