Posted on 07/09/2012 12:49:58 PM PDT by Kaslin
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RUSH: I read a couple of pieces yesterday that really touched a nerve with me. One of them was by Michael Goodwin in the New York Post. Let me set it up by describing something personal. And I've mentioned this many times during the course of this program. When I was in my twenties and thirties, and I saw people in their sixties and seventies, I vowed that there were certain things those people did that I would never do. For instance, I vowed I would never become, in the eyes of anybody else, an old fogy. I would never be someone who looked at the younger generations as the beginning of the end of our culture. My parents did. My parents, the Beatles and all of that, was just the end of the world as far as they were concerned. It was the long hair. It was the rebel characteristics, all of that.
This is true for every generation. Every older generation look at the younger generation and thinks, "My God, they're gonna blow it, country's finished, we're all done." I vowed that would never happen to me. I vowed I would keep an open mind and try to remember always the way I looked at the world when I was in my twenties and thirties. Well, there are things that have happened here that befuddle even me. You and I -- and I'm gonna take the liberty here of speaking for you, 'cause I think this is pretty accurate when discussing most of you.
You and I look at what's happening to the country, and we are a multitude of things. We are appalled, we're angry, and we're really scared. Despite every effort not to be an old fuddy-duddy, an old fogy -- despite every effort to avoid falling into that trap as I've gotten older, as I have matured and aged -- I haven't been able to avoid it. It's not that the younger generations are to blame. It's not that they're at fault. That's not my point. We're losing the country right in front of our eyes.
It is astounding, the transformational changes leading to the destruction. It actually has me depressed at times. Now, you and I see this the same way to one degree or to a bunch of varying degrees. But then you realize that other people don't! They're living it, and they don't. In what I would consider a sane, normal world, anybody from any party who had presided over this kind of not just economic destruction but national transformation, wouldn't be considered a serious candidate for reelection. Not at any time in this nation's history.
Anybody who had been in charge during these three years would be looking at a 30% approval number or reelect number, in what I would consider to be a sane world. For the past two years, every Thursday we talk about the unemployment number in this country on this program. And on Thursday of every month, we look at it in great detail because we get the number for the previous month before it's revised downward. And it seems to me that like it's almost like a slow-drip water torture.
This is obviously cultural rot and decay taking place. There is economic decay taking place. But it is so gradual that it's not accompanied by any shock value. And since there's no shock value attached to it, there's no high degree of outrage. There's more like resignation. People are just resigned to it. We got 8.2% unemployment? "New normal! It's not something about which you need to get exorcised about and make a big change; it's just the way it is." Not for you. Not for you and me, don't misunderstand.
Not for you and me, but for a seemingly large part of the country. And of course this election is gonna tell us how large a part. This is the great unknown. This is the great unknown question. Just how many people in this country think this is the United States of America. This is all it can be. This is it, and this is normal. And how many of them vote. When you look at 8.2% unemployment -- when you look at more people going on disability than getting jobs -- folks, we are in uncharted territory.
We now have eight million people on disability.
We have 48% of the people in this country not paying income tax, and yet all of them... And this is important in trying to assess all this. All of these people are eating. They're not going hungry. And they all have their cell phones. And they all are able to afford to use their cell phones. And they all have their plasma TVs, and they're all able to sign up for cable and use them. Despite all of the economic malaise. Now, the reason for this is that we're $16 trillion in debt. We've got an administration which is happily paying for this result.
There is no longer a stigma to being unemployed or a stigma to being on welfare. And so, just as we used to look at the younger generation (we who are seasoned and mature), and be a little worried about what they're gonna amount to because they seemed to be such degenerates and reprobates. Now instead of looking at it that way, this whole generational thing has become one view of the country versus another view of the country. Whereas I promised myself I would never look -- as a seasoned, mature individual -- at younger people as worthless degenerate perverts.
Like my parents looked at my generation and every other generation has. Now, instead of doing that, I'm sitting here looking at an unknown percentage of the country and asking myself how many of them know what it is to be an American. How many of them know what that means anymore? Or how many of them have a different definition of it entirely? And I worry because the architect of all this transformation, the architect of all this destruction, has a legitimate chance as winning reelection!
In real, sane world this guy's party woulda thrown him out and they woulda put Hillary or somebody else in there.
That hasn't happened.
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RUSH: It ought to be clear, folks. It ought to be obvious that Barack Obama does not want to create jobs. He wants to create welfare recipients. That's why he said that Friday's jobs report was "a step in the right direction." A step in the right direction? The chairman of the Democrat National Committee, Debbie "Blabbermouth" Schultz, on television yesterday said they're happy with the direction of the private sector. She'll take job growth every month. She'll take it.
But it is obvious that Obama doesn't want to create jobs; he wants to create welfare recipients. In TheHill.com there was this story from yesterday. "Two-thirds of likely voters say President Obama has kept his 2008 campaign promise to change America — but it’s changed for the worse, according to a sizable majority. A new poll for The Hill found 56% of likely voters believe Obama’s first term has transformed the nation in a negative way, compared to 35% who believe the country has changed for the better under his leadership."
Okay, fine and dandy.
I have a question: If 56% of likely voters believe Obama has transformed the nation in such a way as to make it worse, then how can be still be at 47% in the swing states, ahead of Romney by a point or tied with Romney? How can that be? Now, how can that be? It just literally doesn't compute. Anyway, I want to try to attack this theme further. I guess may be it is a generational thing that I was referring to just a moment ago, where we are as a country. I'm gonna use some help from Michael Goodwin of the New York Post on Sunday.
So sit tight. We'll come back and get into that.
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RUSH: Now, in his speech just now where he announced the extension of the Bush tax cuts -- and, by the way, do you realize those Bush tax cuts -- and I made this point before -- those Bush tax cuts were tax cuts for the middle class? The Democrats since 2003 have been calling them the Bush tax cuts for the rich. The last two times Obama has extended them, he has done so, so that they will continue to help the middle class. Well, obviously the Bush tax cuts were tax cuts for everyone. Rich, middle class, everybody. That only gets mentioned when Obama extends them. These tax cuts, by the way, are the very thing Obama blames for the economic woes that he encountered when he became president. The Bush tax cuts, the woeful economy that Bush left because of the Bush tax cuts, and every time Obama needs 'em he goes back to 'em and extends 'em.
Now, in his speech just now, he said, "Our core mission as an administration, as a country, has to be rebuilding an economy where work pays off." That is a lie. He is not oriented that way. Work does not pay off. Work is punished. "Not working" pays off. More than it ever has in this country, "not working" pays off. He honestly has the nerve to say when he's raising taxes on the people who are working to rebuild the economy, small business owners and entrepreneurs, those taxes are going up. The Bush tax cuts will expire for job creators. The people who create jobs will see their taxes increase. This is independent of whatever Obamacare tax increases there will be. So he has the nerve to say that when he's raising taxes on the people who are working to rebuild this economy, and that's small business, those are people who put their money at risk and put it to work, and they will face a tax increase.
My friends, he does not want job creation. He just said, "Right now our top priority has to be giving middle-class families and small businesses the security they deserve." Simple question: How is raising taxes on most small businesses going to give them the security they deserve? How is raising taxes on most employers going to do that? Who employs the middle class? More and more, it's the federal government. Victor Davis Hanson had a piece over the weekend, The Corner -- (interruption) Yeah, I'm getting to the Goodwin piece. I'm setting it up. Stick with me.
Victor Davis Hanson over the weekend, National Review Online: "Atlas Still Shrugging." This is good because it's a great encapsulation.
"If one wanted to ensure permanent 8 percent to 9 percent unemployment, one might try the following: Run up serial $1 trillion deficits." Check. "Add $5 trillion to the national debt in three and a half years." Check. If you wanted to maintain permanent eight to nine percent unemployment, you do this. "Impose a 2,400-page, trillion-dollar new federal takeover of health care, with layers of new taxation, much of it falling on the middle class and employers, even as favored concerns are given mass exemptions," via the waivers. Check, did that.
If you want to maintain unemployment at eight to nine percent: "Scare employers with constant us/them class warfare rhetoric about a demonized one-percenter class and its undeserved profits; constantly talk about raising new taxes and imposing regulations, ensuring uncertainty and convincing employers of unpredictability in regulation and taxes." Keep everybody on edge with unpredictability. Check.
Number five: "Appoint a bipartisan committee to study the fiscal crisis and then neglect all its recommendations. Six: Subsidize failed green companies, while denigrating successful gas and oil concerns." Do you know what I saw today? Do you realize CO2 output, greenhouse gases, have fallen sharply, astoundingly. And you know what the number one reason is? (interruption) No. That's what I thought, too. I thought it would be the downturn in the economy. Fracking. The new way of producing natural gas and oil has caused the sharpest decline in greenhouse gases. Everything Obama believes, everything the left touts is a lie. The pursuit of profit, which is what fracking is, it's a new way of getting natural gas and oil, and the people that do that do it to earn a profit. So the pursuit of profit led to sharpest reduction in greenhouse gases.
Now, frankly, look you know me, I don't think there's such a thing as greenhouse gases that are destroying the planet. But to use the left's own setup, the pursuit of profit, a new way of getting natural gas and oil, has resulted in the sharpest decline in CO2. Fracking turns out to be green energy. Yep. But not to this bunch. They're trying to shut it down.
Anyway, you would "Vastly increase unemployment insurance, disability, and food-stamp constituencies, while promising all sorts of mortgage, credit-card, and student-loan bailouts," which, all of this is Obama's doing. This is how you maintain unemployment at 9%. You would "Borrow hundreds of billions for stimulus programs that are not shovel ready, but are rather aimed to bail out state budgets, pensions, and unions. Nine: Federalize elements of non-profitable private companies, while threatening to shut down profitable plants for supposed union or environmental incorrect behavior. Ten: Do not address changing the above policies, but rather blame others for such self-induced stagnation." If you do all of that, you pretty much ensure something like the current economy. Do all that and you get what we've got, and Obama has done it and he's doubling down on it.
Now, to Michael Goodwin in the New York Post yesterday. "Mitt Romney is a good man. He’s smart, successful and there’s not a hint of scandal in his 65 years. He’s boring and a little distant, but those aren’t the flaws that could prove fatal. Romney’s big problem is that he grew up in another America. He was raised to believe there is a clear standard for adult conduct, that even politics has rules and that it is the duty of a president to unite and lead the nation through its economic crisis.
"Timing could be his great misfortune. Fate has given him a demoralized electorate that is growing distant from that old America and an opponent who spouts its verities, but actually believes in none of them. Barack Obama believes that politics is a knife fight, and the only rule is that he must win." Romney's gotta get politically killed. "Obama's conduct reflects the unholy mix of a messiah complex with the muscle of The Chicago Way. His goal, he tells us, is to 'transform' America, not fix it. This culture clash explains a presidential campaign operating in parallel universes. Romney is making a broad pitch to the nation as a whole, assuming jobs, the debt, deficit and a strong military are what people care about because they should."
You go back to Reagan, only talking 30 years ago, or is it 40 now? Thirty years ago, Reagan's three-legged stool: Lower taxes, rebuild the military, and of course revive the economy. That's what everybody wanted. That's what Romney's doing. Goodwin's point is that Romney is from a different era where that stuff mattered to people. Parallel universe. Obama knows that's no longer true for a big slice of the country. He gives lip service to economic growth and a strong military and American exceptionalism, but they concern him only to the extent that they could be his undoing.
"[Obama's] aim is to buy four more years by using the power of incumbency to distribute goodies that will insulate his supporters from immediate pain. In exchange, they’ll give him time to turn the nation into a European welfare state, with an imperial president" like they have in Europe. "Obama’s not making a national appeal. He’s micro-targeting," (we've told you all this and here it is in print), all these different constituencies. "Obama’s not making a national appeal. He’s micro-targeting groups..." Obama's abandoned white working-class families. He's abandoned the American mainstream is my point.
Obama's not trying to get votes from the American mainstream. Romney is, and Goodwin here is speculating that could mean that Romney's out of touch. We'll find out. It's an interesting mental exercise. "For [Obama], 8.2% unemployment is something to work around, not worry about. It is a distraction to be paved over with side deals for friends, bailouts and trade barriers for unions, a pass on immigration laws for Latinos, subsidized loans for students, huge handouts for green-energy zealots and unleashed regulatory cops to crucify producers of fossil fuel.
"He even leaks national security secrets to boost his warrior cred[enditals]." The kind of thing that would have people clamoring to get rid of a president not that long ago. "The whole jobs thing is passé because work is optional when unemployment and disability benefits are the new welfare and an increase in food stamps is proof of 'fairness,'" and they're advertising for more food stamp recipients. They're throwing food stamp parties. Obama is actually targeting citizens of this new America where everything's free, where everything's a giveaway, all for the sake of his maintaining power.
"With only half the country paying taxes, the other half isn’t worried about spending. For their government masters, dependency is good. Women are patronized with a claim that Republicans are waging war on them, even though the Obama economy has done them no favors. Black Americans also get nothing special. Because 95% will support Obama no matter what, he doesn’t bother buying their votes. He is their only reward. Our president is a deeply cynical man, but the more disturbing fact is that his cynicism has freed him from responsibility, and that freedom is proving to be a campaign advantage.
"The rising star who once claimed to see not a red or blue America but a united one has shed that pose for a message tailored to a country he helped polarize. Give the devil his due: Obama is a first-rate campaigner, approaching it with a passion he lacks for the Oval Office. His team has sliced and diced the country into ethnic, racial and class pieces, and he follows their road map and revs up the rhetoric on cue. His bus tour in Ohio was a priceless piece of pandering.
"In a town tied to auto manufacturing, he could tout his bailout of Detroit and suppliers and announce that he had filed a trade claim against China over its tariffs on American cars," and get their votes. "And so it goes, one special-interest cookie at a time. There’s no pretense of eliminating the deficit or paying down the debt. Entitlement reform is for chumps. So are growth and job creation..."
That's for chumps.
The new America doesn't care about that.
And Romney, as somebody who does, is in a parallel universe. He may be talking to a country doesn't exist anymore. This is the point from Goodwin.
I gotta take a break here 'cause I'm way long, so I'm sorry, next segment's gonna be proportionately shorter.
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I believe that it has. Over half the population is now made up of non-Americans who have no desire to become Americans. They’re just here for the freebies and handouts. Being labeled a “minority” by the commie ‘RATS doesn’t hurt either.
We could very well see the seeds of a second American revolution being planted and will come to full bloom.
Has America slipped away?
Well, maybe equate America with a beloved family member...
America is dying and only a miracle cure can save her now. The final attempt at a life-saving surgery comes this fall. It’s all riding on what happens Nov. 6. We’re going to know everything we need to know about her survival chances on the morning of Nov. 7. If the surgery (election) is a success, she may live for a time, and maybe even appear to rally. Failing that, plan her funeral, because at that point, death will be imminent.
I am hoping that it won’t happen that way, but we going down that slippery slope to the ash heap of history every day.
Bushbots like Limbaugh are part of the problem.
Too damn late to admit your mistakes now.
Rush, or possibly Goodwin, is confused here. Most European countries, with France the only exception I can think of, have a parliamentary system, with the president being Head of State, not head of government, largely a figurehead, and absolutely not imperial.
Even the prime minister in these nations has nothing resembling imperial power. He can be tossed out of office at a moment's notice when parliamentary coalitions shift.
The US president is at present, and always has been, much more imperial than any European nation with exception of France.
Ahh, and Russia and Byelorussia, of course, if you consider them European nations.
Yea, pretty much.
And the GOP is to blame in a large part.
The First American Republic went extinct with the abrogation of the rule of law. We may never see a Second American Republic in our lifetimes.
“Bushbots like Limbaugh?”
Welcome to Free Republic. Did you think we’re a village that needed a new idiot? You’ll do nicely.
Limbaugh is NOT part of the problem...and welcome to FR.
I have said from the very beginning that that he was the exact wrong man to have in charge at the exact wrong moment in our history.
The Perfect Storm...
Hidey Ho there, Noobey Noob.
Are you sure you are in the right place?
“Wanting To Be An Ass-Hole” is over on aisle three.
What? Did we go and shoot the last one? Again?
There are several states that give far more to the fed than they receive. There are producer states and taker states from the fed treasury. More and more the Fed is creating laws that force states to spend more. If Texas, for instance, decided that federal taxes were now optional to all it's residents and that several state taxes were going up to provide for the common defense of Texas, highways, immigration, etc. The Fed would have to come to Texas to arrest individual citizens for tax evasion and Texas would have to provide protection to them from the Fed. Texas would have to through out all federal employees including federal judges and potentially the military in bases (Ft. Hood for example).
The power of the fed now trumps the power of the states with regards to how it governs in many ways.
If Texas, Oklahoma and Arizona decided to secede from the union, there may be little the fed could do about it. A court wouldn't stop it (be ignored) and I doubt a “civil war” would ever break out. But if the talk gets serious, my family is immigrating to Texas before they close the boarders. I already have an anchor baby with a Texas birth cert. :o)
In the Agenda Documentary, that is exactly what they show, that the left/communists groomed 0bama for exactly this time, to finally take us down...
Who better than a man with an impenetrable melanin-based criticism shield?
Hey Rush. Should we worry NOW?
Along the lines of “Hey, Claire, is it time yet?”
It’s a very dystopian image, but I see the United States as the once Great Cornicopia — a feast at which the uninvited, unwelcome and rude guests are simply picking the remains from the slaughtered hog in the middle of the table. The owners and producers of the dinner party have long since fled the house, and have contented themselves that the “guests” can pick over whatever value is left, though once it’s gone, that’s all that’s left.
Rush asks: “I have a question: If 56% of likely voters believe Obama has transformed the nation in such a way as to make it worse, then how can be still be at 47% in the swing states, ahead of Romney by a point or tied with Romney? How can that be? Now, how can that be? It just literally doesn’t compute. “
That is because Rush is not willing to look at the fact that Cook County has gone national - and the Ruling Class tells us what the ‘polls’ are since they are the ones to manipulate them to create the illusion that we have any say or choice in this election.
Rush and many still operate under the delusion that our election process counts the will of the people. If Rush acknowledges that Obama operates via the ‘Chicago Way’, and he was honest with himself about that understanding, then he would recognize the election process itself is rigged, staged and manipulated to favor those the Ruling Class chooses to rule over us and the policies they demand to be put in place to rule us. From the local municipalities to the courts - the Ruling Class own it all - and nothing ever threatens that hold of tyranny. THAT is the Chicago way and the way it’s politics operate. THAT is the reality of oligarchy as it exists there. Now it exists for us all nationally.
We are in uncharted territory for certain, because we’ve suffered a coup and still operate under the delusion our vote will save us. Marxists once in power never give up or lose that power except by a means that few are even willing to contemplate.
And that is our catch-22 - because this regime is wanting that in the worst possible way.
We are way beyond saving this Republic using the means by which our Founders intended that the Ruling Class have corrupted and manipulated. A moral people have bought the lie told to them by their immoral enemies, that it is a sin to be intolerant of those things anathema to our foundations. To be moral we have accepted the lie that we must accommodate, tolerate and give the space for their ‘freedom’ to be exercised, or we were hypocrites to liberty. Our ignorance of what liberty meant doomed us to inaction and apathy in the face of our enemies who have stripped us of the very thing we were supposed to guard with extreme prejudice.
I think Goodwin is correct about the mindset of so many assuming the country we all grew up in, still exists. It doesn’t anymore because it was no longer taught. Liberty as our Founders intended could only be carried in the bosom of a religious and moral people. Conservatives themselves can no longer agree on that definition, so our fate is sealed.
What remains now is to survive while living under an enemy occupation. because that is where we are at, and have been for a while, and this people are comfortable with it and willing to tolerate such evil, while the evils are sufferable.
There is no rule of law, only the rule of tyrants and serfs, but we delude ourselves into thinking we are not there yet, when our Forbears would have understood where we were years ago, and yanked out the irons to stop their God-granted rights from ending up where ours are at now.
So you got the newbie backhand from others already. We were all newbies at one time or another.
I'll go ahead and ask that you explain the contempt for Limbaugh. I for one can list Bush's greatest contributions to America and his fantastic failures. Many here can. But if you consider what the alternative to his being elected would have been, I think you, like me, say a prayer of thanks that he was our president when he was (or at least that we had a republican in office). Or would Al Gore have been a better bet.
Limbaugh was a critic of Bush in his failings (medicaid, campaign finance, Homeland Security, Bailouts, immigration, government expansion, etc.). But on national security, Deregulation, taxes and the economy, he did very well.
“What? Did we go and shoot the last one? Again?”
Even FReepers don’t have THAT much ammo...especially with all the tragic boating accidents recently.
LOL, the Rushbots are worse than the Bushbots. . .
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“We could very well see the seeds of a second American revolution being planted and will come to full bloom.”
Very good point.
The 2012 election — regardless of who wins — is going to shock a lot of folks on the right, “on the traditional side of things”.
It will serve to illustrate not that the country has a future in which it becomes more united, but rather, it will reveal just how “divided” America is becoming.
This election will become a harbinger of even more division and tumult to come.
Even if Romney wins, his victory is going to be a close one. I don’t for a moment believe ANYTHING I see claimed, here on FR or elsewhere, that this one’s gonna be “a landslide” or a blowout and repudiation of the ‘rats. The electoral vote totals for this one will serve to predict the future outcome of elections for the next 10-20 years. The demographics simply do not exist by which to produce “right-leaning landslides” in America anymore, and those demographics ain’t coming back. The America that elected Ronald Reagan two times cannot elect Mitt Romney, because that “America” no longer exists.
Even if the Republicans retain a comfortable majority in the House and win a simple majority in the Senate, it’s still going to be difficult for them to get much done, as they will be blocked at EVERY move by the ‘rats, who have grown more radicalized and see nothing to lose by waging a Wisconsin-style war of obstruction. Indeed, for the first two years of a Romney administration, about the ONLY legislation I expect to see passed will be appropriations and fiscal bills that can be won in the Senate with 51 votes. Anything that requires 60 votes to end a filibuster probably isn’t going to make it out of the Congress.
In the above transcript, Mr. Limbaugh writes:
“You and I look at what’s happening to the country, and we are a multitude of things. We are appalled, we’re angry, and we’re really scared.”
Yes, indeed.
A number of years ago, I came up with something I named “The Titanic Theory”.
We all know that after it struck the iceberg, the Titanic sank bow-first. After the lifeboats were gone, the only recourse to stay above the water line was to flee to the stern, for clearly that would be the last part of the ship that would remain above the waterline.
The American ship of state has struck something as dangerous as an iceberg, and I doubt few reading this post would disagree that it, too, is in danger of foundering.
As an individual (and as a conservative), I see a similar path as those did on the deck of the Titanic - that is, to find a place that is likely to remain akin to “the traditional America of our memory” as the rest of the ship slips downward. It may be possible to save the ship, or it may be not (Aside: the coming election may yield some light on this). But, regardless of whether or not the ship survives, at least I as an individual can find a certain measure of comfort away from the gathering tumult. And, because I’m older, I’m betting on the chance that I may be able to finish my own time in such refuge before the entire ship goes under.
The Titanic Theory isn’t about saving the ship — it’s about saving yourself. This is what conservatives as a demographic group must do to weather the coming storm.
What was it that Ben Franklin advised his cohorts about “hanging”?
I’m 56 years old. If you are in this age group then I would think that like me, you know the America we grew up in and remember and loved has vanished.
Concerning Post #21:
I hope and believe we have one more chance. So I have to dissagree with you. I’m not blind to where we are or what is at stake. But the media and pundits are about o for 5 now since Obama took office with predicting the mood of the nation based on polls. They are trying mightily but I am impressed with simple elections that now routinely befudle the pundits.
If the past 5 years (and I mean 5) have been enough to invigorate a generation of conservatives (we have yet to see), then we may be able to turn things around. If not, then this election (assuming Romney wins) will only delay the inevitable. Given a choice, I would rather it die with another term of Obama so that states can secede and start anew than bleed a slow death over 20 years until those states with the gumption to say no get worn down.
Here is a list that of things that must happen to secure a generation (or prove it) of conservative majority:
1. Repeal Obamacare
2. Privatize social security for all under the age of 45.
3. Implement the Fair Tax and a complete end to all other fed taxes.
4. End all corporate subsidies and government loans.
5. Privatize all lending and drop Fed Insurance for banks (end Freddie and Fannie)
6. Downsize the EPA to 200 employees and act only if called.
7. Dump all green energy subsidies and initiatives as it pertains to federal funding.
8. Cut funding to the UN completely (it serves no interest to America as we could do better to negotiate treaties and agreements without the UN).
9. End the unionization and collective bargaining for federal employees.
10. Significantly reduce the regulations of the health industry (including pharma) and energy.
11. Dump the entire consumer protection agency and combine it with other groups that are also downsized.
12. Build a fence/wall at both borders and stop illegal immigration before figuring out what to do with those here.
America would start going in the right direction if the above happened over the next 10 to 15 years.
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Wow. I didn't see that one comming. I read some of his previous work and didn't catch a pattern of stupidity. He posted something stupid with no explanation on this thread and got beat up for it (in true FR fashion). But corporal punishment? There must have been something else going on, right?
Why Mr. B, not only are you growing positively poetic in your old age, you are just right on the money.
There is a more than passing possibility that the Federal union of the United States could break up into several separate republics, which was considered by several of the thinkers in the Russian Federation.
Texas almost certainly could and would become their own self-sufficient republic, with a possibility that it could also encompass Oklahoma and maybe Louisiana, but only limited scope beyond that. The eastern part of the Old Confederacy could also form a breakaway republic.
The northern Plains states east of the Rockies have sufficient resources and enough independence of mind to form a northern neighbor to the Texas republic, but they are unlikely to extend east of the Mississippi, or much west of the Rockies. The West Coast states have always lived in splendid isolation from most of the rest of the country, and California-Oregon-Washington becomes another breakaway republic, orientated to Mexico and the Pacific Rim. Hawaii may join in, but Alaska would have little to do with that particular alliance, likely also becoming a separate republic.
Which leaves only the Northeast as the remaining core of what was once a nation that spanned ocean to ocean, and from the Gulf to the Great Lakes. They COULD petition to join Canada, but if the Canadians have a lick of sense, that talk would and should be quashed immediately.
With an old “race card” that has been declined enough times.
“...Anything that requires 60 votes to end a filibuster probably isn’t going to make it out of the Congress...”
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We certainly don’t know if they will have the cajones to do it, but the senate decides it’s own rules, and it is within their power to to eliminate the 60 vote requirement.
America’s children will be the ones to really suffer. It could be that a foreign power will take over. If that happens, we could see something akin to a holocaust or maybe we will see it anyway because the US government is not friendly anymore. As someone has said..”The IRS will be the new Gestapo.” I guess I would add Health and Human Services to that.
“We could very well see the seeds of a second American revolution being planted and will come to full bloom.”
We at the very least are seeing the insidious advancement in America of the kind of circumstances that lead to revolutions.
In exchange for safe seats, the shift in raising governmental funding away from large-donor corporations to the middle classes, and permanence as a cooperative minority party guaranteed a share in the spoils, they have bargained away control of every level of government ... until Government, by default, belongs to the Democrats.
For example, three-term Republican Congressmen who enter the House as dead-broke small town lawyers, find themselves a scant six years later, multimillionaires with very wealthy extended families. The price? Play ball. Every piece of "legislation" created has literally hundreds of clauses bought and paid for by special interests who reward the incumbents. The vague and mirky "laws" are interpreted and enforced by an ever-growing and close to 100% Democrat controlled bureaucracy.
For me, one epiphany was to learn the hard way that "Republican" elected officials hire as staff many people who are clearly Democrat operatives. Senate and House staffs are hired administration after administration, from a pool of "professionals" who are literally the children and grandchildren of Leftists who came to DC with Roosevelt and who have never left. It is a classic example of an oligarchic Liberal elite.
Thanks to the GOP, it clearly matters less every cycle exactly whom you vote for. The people who will ru(i)n your life are going to be Democrats. The Two-Party System is now a One-Party System. In order to keep the Republic, the Republican Party has to be replaced. But, with What?
“America’s children will be the ones to really suffer. It could be that a foreign power will take over...”
Take one minute, and watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYKAbRK_wKA
Ta-da.
You’re right.
Everyone should read and re-read your posting. You’ve correctly summarized the situation.
I would add to this that the GOP has been carrying water for interests other than those of the American people for years - large banks, multi-national corporations who have loyalty to nothing other than profits and extra-national trade agreements, etc.
The Nixon GOP gave us the second most odious government agency in our history, the EPA. The Reagan administration created the precedent of amnesty for illegal aliens. The Bush administration gave us Medicare Part D, increasing government control of healthcare and creating yet another entitlement which we cannot afford. Bush I bequeathed to us permanent involvement in the middle east, which has produced no benefit to the US citizen whatsoever.
I think we'll need to change our prayer from "God bless America" to "God save America".
“I hope and believe we have one more chance. “
I lied to myself that very same thing in nearly every election cycle since Reagan left office. 2008, especially so.
This primary season and what the GOP has done in the blatant face of unConstitutionality and attack on our foundations - finally helped me recognize how deceived I even made myself on where we actually are.
You cannot survive what is coming unless one acknowledges the truth of the situation and the ground upon which we stand. Lying to oneself or trusting in optimistic hope when the evidence is everywhere around us that the enemy has the heights and we are surrounded, does nothing but puff up chests. Ultimately those chests will be deflated in more ways than one given the lessons of history and the nature of the kind of beasts we are up against.
One more chance does not include what political leaders we vote for.
Rather, one more chance would look like a religious revival of intolerant zealots - and that is not going to happen. The church itself in this country bought into the liberal lies and is more interested in compromise and feel-good embracement of debauchery as some kind of better morality than what scripture itself taught them. As a result - the very institutions that liberty was cradled from, are become lukewarm and saltless, as corrupted by this depraved culture as the rest of it. Instead of influencing the culture as intended to keep it on the moral path, the culture has influenced the church and it has no strength in itself beyond platitudes.
As some other so adroitly noted, we are no longer the country or the people we were even 20 years ago, much less the kind of people our Founders insisted could be the only people to hold onto the torch of liberty.
That’s fact, whether you want to accept it or not.
We’ve sinned a great sin against everyone and The Almighty who established our liberty and blessings. A people no longer rooted in the kind of morality that our freedom rested upon, cannot reclaim or reestablish it - because none of them even know what the kind of liberty that made us great even looks like.
It’s easy to deceive ourselves about where we actually are in the light of what true history teaches us. No one is willing to acknowledge the truth.
So be it.
We are where we are, and one day soon, the full reality is going to be realized.
It’s too late except looking to surviving what is now erected on top of us and praying we hold onto our faith.
Wow! Great video! It’s funny how many here argue against me when I say china has to be stopped:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYKAbRK_wKA
That would be up to old Mr. Deer-in-the-headlights. I'm not holding out much hope, unless we're able to replace him.
“You cannot survive what is coming unless one acknowledges the truth of the situation and the ground upon which we stand. Lying to oneself or trusting in optimistic hope when the evidence is everywhere around us that the enemy has the heights and we are surrounded, does nothing but puff up chests. Ultimately those chests will be deflated in more ways than one given the lessons of history and the nature of the kind of beasts we are up against.”
We are surrounded by socialists beasts and they are called democrats and they control the media and so what people think. We have to fight now. I don’t want to be democrats’ and China’s slave. I know I am surrounded but I still have to fight.
We owe it to our children and descendants and we owe to ourselves to defend freedom.
We owe it to our founding fathers who died to give us freedom.
Here is a list that of things that must happen to secure a generation (or prove it) of conservative majority:
1. Repeal Obamacare
2. Privatize social security for all under the age of 45.
3. Implement the Fair Tax and a complete end to all other fed taxes.
4. End all corporate subsidies and government loans.
5. Privatize all lending and drop Fed Insurance for banks (end Freddie and Fannie)
6. Downsize the EPA to 200 employees and act only if called.
7. Dump all green energy subsidies and initiatives as it pertains to federal funding.
8. Cut funding to the UN completely (it serves no interest to America as we could do better to negotiate treaties and agreements without the UN).
9. End the unionization and collective bargaining for federal employees.
10. Significantly reduce the regulations of the health industry (including pharma) and energy.
11. Dump the entire consumer protection agency and combine it with other groups that are also downsized.
12. Build a fence/wall at both borders and stop illegal immigration before figuring out what to do with those he
all good suggestions.
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13. Stop all 3rd world legal immigration and deport illegals.
14. Put the trade embargo on China again. Stop the merging of our economy with China and allowing China to dictate industrial policy to the U.S..
Are you not aware the rhe Second American Revolution has already taken place and is long in the past, without a shot having been fired? This was chronicled by John Wayne Whitehead in his trilogy The Stealing of America (1983), The Second American Revolution (1985), The End of Man (1986).
Those are worth rereading.
I was thinking more in terms of what Rep. Joe Walsh, (R/IL) had said last week that America is in a second American revolution to save its soul.
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