Skip to comments.The gathering storm within the GOP
Posted on 07/09/2012 1:03:14 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
.............. Either the current, longstanding GOP establishment will finally cede control of the official banner of political conservatism, or the traditional two-party system, and with it the American republic, will dissolve.
Under present circumstances, this means that the truest voice of constitutional republicanism .... is being choked out in favor of the "go along to get along" model of political survivalism that has typified the Washington GOP for several decades.
This is where America's soul resides, all wishful thinking aside, after forty years on the present GOP establishment's watch. And in response to the laying of the last straw in this breaking of America's back, the GOP establishment has turned not against the left, but against the supposed extremism and instability of the Tea Party and its preferred electoral representatives. They are making an Ivy League plea for "sobriety," for avoiding "intemperate" characterizations of the left and its intentions, and for a stoic resignation in the face of national demise that masquerades as intransigent optimism. This in spite of the fact that it was precisely such GOP sobriety and temperance in 2008 that made possible the presidency of Barack Obama, with his well-creased Ivy League trousers.
And as the two-party system grants them the strategic advantage of a monopolistic hold on public conservatism, they can attempt to withstand the Tea Party threat to their privilege by challenging grassroots conservatives to a game of "king of the hill."
Somehow, the current establishment must either accept its failure and seek to make amends through radical change, or be pulled off that hill atop which it has too long presided.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Before reading I’ll say that the GOPe and conservatives are in a state of open war in Michigan with casualties taken on both sides.
Now to read
Great article. I will hold my nose to vote for Mittens RINOmney, and fully expect that it will be my last vote for a Republican (don’t even think I’d vote dim-bulb-crat).
I fully expect the vapid dork to be Obama lite, and will actively campaign no more for either major party. What’s it gonna take, folks, another civil war?
Right now, I’m beginning to think that CW-II may be the only solution.
I said that last time...and I meant it.
Disclaimer - Yeah, I know it's a dream but I wouldn't be the first person to have one
When both parties run abortionist/homosexualist statists, we have NO choice at all. It’s like a communist state one party election! Soros must be very pleased. Damn the statist parties!! Long live the grassroots conservative tea party rebellion!! Long live Liberty!!
I did a survey for the RNC, which happened to be asking for money, and was pretty clear in my opinion. Yes, Obama is human garbage, but I also don’t support non-conservatives. They also didn’t get a donation, not did I affix a stamp to “save” them money.
I wonder if I’ll get a response. Probably not as the questions are really only meant to let you feel good about spending your money. The opinion of conservatives aren’t valued.
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Amen! And there is absolutely no way I’ll ever cast my vote for a man with a blatant abortionist/homosexualist statist record like Romney’s!! The bastard doesn’t even measure up to being a RINO!! He’s an out and out Democrat mole!! FUMR!! FUKR!! FUGOP-e!!
FU is freeper parlance for “freep you” (for those of you in Rio Linda).
Well stated bro.
From the article comes this designation: “survivalist Republicans” as the Republican establishment.
That is a great way to contrast them with “Constitutional Republicans.”
If... and that’s a BIG IF...my vote goes against BO and RINO ROMNEY somehow wins what will people like me do?
From day one if he so much as dips his pinky toe in the cesspool of socialism...of course he will...I will be beating on his butt like it’s a rented mule!
CUT THE REPLACE CRAP, REPEAL!
No honeymoon, no go along to get along you farking GOPe! Unless you go with the Tea Party, conservative, smaller government program YOU WILL LOSE IN 2014 AND 2016! It will go to the socialists!
AND YOU MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, MILQUETOAST, NO BALLS, TRAITORS WILL BE TO BLAME!
Unless you change your ways your only hope is that I am dead.
Rewarding the GOP-E's liberal candidates with victory has had dire consequences.
“.......Right now, Im beginning to think that CW-II may be the only solution.”
If we can’t reach enough of the Sheeple too busy grazing in the green of Fed largesse then I fear you are correct.
I totally agree. I am 68 years old and this will probably be the last time I vote GOP. I’m done with their BS of “get along” policy and hopefully the younger generation will wise up.
In four years I won’t give a crap. I fought the good fight until now and I’m just worn out. If the MF What’s in Charge (MFWIC) wins this election the country is done for.
Totally agree. I have given up on the republican party. It is about two steps removed from the dems.
Next election cycle it will be the same thing. The Elite Republicans will team up with the media and Democrats to eliminate the Conservatives, then say it is either our guy or the Democrat. It worked on me in 2008. 2012? Nah.
I know I’m damn tired of hearing how we can elect real conservatives next time. The people saying it have no intent of electing conservatives.
It’s ALWAYS the most important election in our lifetime!
I’ve heard that from the 50’s on.
Sometimes you have to lance the boil...
I am with you. The best way to accomplish our goals is to steer the GOP in the right direction. This election is a real chance to get a majority and reverse the damage of Obama. I am all in. After the election, if the GOP wins and does not respond, I am done. If they lose, I done...after forcing Romney, McConnell and Boehner on us after 2010, if they can’t win, the party is dead and we build a new one.
There’s this too:
But unless there is a miracle ....
What is there not to like?
And to the Romeny bots that usually respond with"obama thanks you", save it for the Republican Party. The guilt trip falls on deaf ears and when the Republicans start nominating Conservatives again, I will vote for them.
Primaries, not general elections, are the opportunities to steer the GOP in the right direction. Once a RINO (like those who as part of a congressional majority rubber-stamped Dubya's "compassionate" policies like the largest Medicare expansion in history) is nominated, casting a protest vote against him in the general election is the most one can do to accomplish our goals - and that's not much.
Is it just me, or are we starting to see a lot of these kinds of articles lately - from established pundits writing for established conservative opinion outlets, not just from the small fries?
One can hope that the Mittbots and the GOP-E start taking notice.
But they won’t.
They’d just rather screech about how criticising Romney and the GOP-E is “treason” and “helping Obama” and how the people doing so “need to go back to DU where they belong.”
Stupid fools. Romney is going to lose, and he’s going to destroy the Republican Party while doing so.
It's time to put an end to this insanity. The GOP will never change unless we refuse to accept its inferior candidates.
Texas Freepers need to vote for Ted Cruz on July 31!
Notice how Cornyn's been a tad more aggressive lately? I think he got the memo that the Tea Party is still around.
Isn't it just splendid that Kevin Madden is back working for the Mittster! All they need to do now is hire Nicolle Wallace, and the deal will be done (as far as I'm concerned).
Maybe on this thread I can say I’m not voting for Romney and won’t get my head bashed in by Romney people.
In short, the Republican establishment has a monopoly on defining conservatism at the all-important levels of public policy and mainstream discourse. Thus, the hopes and concerns of non-establishment conservatives and libertarians are given, at best, a muted hearing in Washington, whether within government proper or among the professional conservative pundit class. Under present circumstances, this means that the truest voice of constitutional republicanism -- which ought to be the dominant concern on all sides of a proper American political establishment -- is being choked out in favor of the "go along to get along" model of political survivalism that has typified the Washington GOP for several decades.
(snip) Constitutional conservatives will not win through a third-party challenge -- or at least not in the foreseeable future. This is not to defend the entrenched two-party system as such. The first president sounded the proper warning in his farewell address against precisely the form of party politics that has evolved.
Practically speaking, however, the danger of allowing Democrats to win elections in the short run -- given what the Democrats have become -- is simply too great to afford constitutionalists the slow gestation period that a viable third party would require.
The first excerpted paragraph above disproves the 2nd. The hold of the GOP-E makes it extremely unlikely that the GOP club will ever be changed from within.
They write the rules.
Better to start now crafting an entirely new party rather than continue in this one party tradition...one party with 2 heads.
The longer the delay in crafting a new party the longer until it comes online.
Im tired of hearing this is the most important election in our lifetime every single time.
It reminds me of the old Duane Thomas quote, when a reporter asked him what it was like to win the ultimate game? If the Super Bowl is the ultimate game, why are the playing it again next year?
If a pro-life, pro-family, pro-small (constitutionally limited) government conservative of the stature of Gov Palin, Gov Walker, Gov Perry, Senator DeMint, et al, would step up to the plate and head up a tea party supported conservative second party, I’d be there in a heart beat.
McLame was the last nose holding vote I will ever make. And I only did so in the hopes that he'd go senile or have a heart attack while in office so that Sarah could take over.
Of course with mitt 'n' friends doing media hits on Sarah BEFORE the 2008 election...
At this late stage in the Republic it matters little whether the globalists pull their little drones in the sky - SWAT killings of a few Americans to terrorize them-FEMA camp roundup- coup under mitt or obie. They do underestimate the millions of Patriots who are ready, willing and able to pull off AR II.
Jim, I feel the same way you do, Romney is as rino as they come, but that is not what this election is about. It's about an American, Capitalist vs. an Anti-American, Anti-Capitalist.
I don't blame you for NOT voting for Romney, however I just can't let Obama remain...I am going to FIRE his charlatan radical ass pronto!
Reagan easily one the greatest presidents in US history , would get booted today.
He was union member.
He headed a union.
He signed into law the “therapeutic abortion” which swept the nation.
He signed the law that mandates ER’s to take all patients regardless of ability to pay- an UNFUNDED mandate.
No one is going to match what the Pharisees await.
To them it’s about one thing: religion.
Along with being a RINO, Romney has absolutely no charisma, no real message, he is a horrible speaker, little experience, and stands for nothing. His wife does most of the talking. I know it means little at this point, but Gingrich and Santorum would be all over this and we have been duped again. Sadly, there is no room for error this time.
He was union member.
He headed a union.
He signed into law the therapeutic abortion which swept the nation.
He signed the law that mandates ERs to take all patients regardless of ability to pay- an UNFUNDED mandate.
No one is going to match what the Pharisees await.
To them its about one thing: religion.
Oh, so you feel the need to run down President Reagan in defense of Romney in the name of religion? Bad move.
That’s a great post right there.
If you’re going to run down Reagan in some idiot attempt to elevate your favorite abortionist/homosexualist statist RINO, you can get the hell off of this conservative site!! I’ve zotted better people than you for pulling this lame argument!! Keep your lame ass RINO crap off FR!!
Myth Romney can kiss my ass!! The GOP-e can pound sand!!
I wouldn’t vote for that Democrat mole if he were the last Republican standing between me and the deep blue sea!!
We can live without them and their 10 trillion dollar debt load, much easier then we can live with them. Propose that after the US splits up, all Federal Employees should be personally responsible for the debt of the Federal Government. Figure that works out to roughly a million each.
“Reagan easily one of the greatest presidents in US history.”