Skip to comments.Obama's Administration Killed a 16-Year-Old American, Didn't Say Anything About It. This Is Justice?
Posted on 07/09/2012 4:13:25 PM PDT by lbryce
In the August issue, Tom Junod examines an entirely new application of power on the part of the president the targeted killing of individuals deemed to be threats to the country. So far, thousands have been killed, most prominent among them Osama bin Laden and Anwar al-Awlaki. The decisions to target are made and the lethal missions are carried out without any public accountability, even when those targeted are Americans and even when, on one occasion, one of those Americans was a teenager. Over the course of this week, Junod considers five of the larger implications of his story on The Politics Blog. Eds.
He was just a boy.
Let's start there. He was an American boy, born in America. Though he'd lived in Yemen since he was about seven, he was still an American citizen, which should have made it harder for the United States to kill him.
It should at the very least have made it necessary for the United States to say why it killed him.
His name was Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, and he was 16 years old when he died when he was killed by a drone strike in Yemen, by the light of the moon. He was the son of Anwar al-Awlaki, who was also born in America, who was also an American citizen, and who was killed by drone two weeks before his son was, along with another American citizen named Samir Khan. Of course, both Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan were, at the very least, traitors to their country they had both gone to Yemen and taken up with Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, and al-Awlaki had proven himself an expert inciter of those with murderous designs against America and Americans:
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And not a moment too soon.
“And not a moment too soon. “
Right on! The little muzzie bastard didn’t have any time to reproduce.
First of all, Obama probably had nothing to do with killing the Jr. Raghead, just as he had nothing to do with the killing of Obama...
Interesting. If this same 16-year-old wandered into an American school and shot to death several students and teachers, he couldn’t get the death penalty.
Traitors are fair game. Bleeding heart liberals can kiss my butt.
Interesting. If this same 16-year-old wandered into an American school and shot to death several students and teachers, he couldnt get the death penalty
I was thinking the same.
If they can do it to those we dislike, they can do it to us.
Once a person turns to the dark side and plots to kill Americans I don’t care what passport they carry while overseas.
Now if our government started dropping JDAMs on folks out behind the Daytona Mall then I expect me and a whole lot of other Americans would get upset.
Just like we’re upset with no-knock searches and dog shootings by the local Gestapo.
I’m sure a presidential “Americans To Assassinate” list (as opposed to those who’ve been found guilty in a court and sentenced to death) will start with such notoriously evil personages as this. What I’m not so sure about is whether it will finish that way.
I hope he wasn’t holding a book entitled, “Dreams From My Father”.
just playing a hunch here...troll from DU, right?
It’s okay for Obama to assassinate U.S. citizens as long as he doesn’t water board anyone because that would be wrong.
Do I have that about right?
Has the Special Prosecutor in the Zimmerman lynching been informed about this latest murder of an unarmed teenager?
I for one, have no sympathy for al-Awlaki. He deserved to die in the worst way possible. He was an enemy of every American who loves liberty. That his son was a collateral casualty doesn’t bother me much either.
Just remember, if guys like these have their way they would come and kill everybody they have to until they have us living in a sharia pit of hell.
Islam is a POS!
“Citizen” sadly means very little these days. After all, any illegal alien female who crosses the Rio Grande and plops out a baby on our side, produces a so-called “citizen”.
They’re moving the goalposts every day:
"Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason."
In 1790, the Congress of the United States enacted that:
"If any person or persons, owing allegiance to the United States of America, shall levy war against them, or shall adhere to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States, or elsewhere, and shall be thereof convicted on confession in open Court, or on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act of the treason whereof he or they shall stand indicted, such person or persons shall be adjudged guilty of treason against the United States, and SHALL SUFFER DEATH; and that if any person or persons, having knowledge of the commission of any of the treasons aforesaid, shall conceal, and not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President of the United States, or some one of the Judges thereof, or to the President or Governor of a particular State, or some one of the Judges or Justices thereof, such person or persons, on conviction, shall be adjudged guilty of misprision of treason, and shall be imprisoned not exceeding seven years, and fined not exceeding one thousand dollars."
If Obama had a son it would look like Abdulrahman...
Traitors are fair game. Bleeding heart liberals can kiss my butt.
Domestic terrorists are traitors, so you might want to reconsider your mindless rah rahing his power to murder citizens without due process since you are hanging with traitors at FR. I don’t trust any man with this much power which is why I support the constitution of the United States.
Sorry, but I have a hard time giving a damn about some America hating Muzzie who would gladly murder you and me and our children, even if he is an “American”.
Where does the POTUS get the power to assasinate 16 year old American citizens wanted for nothing? You people are freaking nuts if you think one person should have that power in the US.
“If any person or persons, owing allegiance to the United States of America, shall levy war against them, or shall adhere to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States, or elsewhere, and shall be thereof convicted on confession in open Court, or on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act of the treason whereof he or they shall stand indicted, such person or persons shall be adjudged guilty of treason against the United States, and SHALL SUFFER DEATH; and that if any person or persons, having knowledge of the commission of any of the treasons aforesaid, shall conceal, and not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President of the United States, or some one of the Judges thereof, or to the President or Governor of a particular State, or some one of the Judges or Justices thereof, such person or persons, on conviction, shall be adjudged guilty of misprision of treason, and shall be imprisoned not exceeding seven years, and fined not exceeding one thousand dollars.”
He has kept our borders open to invasion by jihadists and WMDs. He has harassed and blocked state officias and the NYPD who have attempted to fulfill their duties to protect the people of their State via investigating jihadist organizations and individuals in New York.
I’m pretty sure that most if not all that read my post got my meaning that “traitor” as the Constitution defines it not how a Foreign born, American hating president defines it.
When one sows the wind, they should not complain when they and theirs reaps the whirlwind.
Many claim to passionately believe in constitutional rights, but for some only when it applies to their rights.
If constitutional protection is not applicable for all Americans, then there is no constitutional protection for any American.
If Obama had a son he would look like Abdulrahman.
What no one is commenting on that I find amazing is...
where is code Pink?? cindy Sheehan?
If this was Bush, this would be front page headlines in the NYT...”Bush lied, teenagers died.”
the Lib hypocrisy lives on!
If you believe in the White house insider stuff at all it is said that O picks the names of those who are going to killed by drone. After the attack then Video’s are delivered to him. He watches them over an over and is obsessed by them. Even his own people are freaked by it.
I understood what you meant. However, the guy with the killing power thinks differently than you and I. Which is why we can not afford to put so much power in a president’s hands.
Statists are inherently hypocritical bastards. Conservatives conserve nothing when they applaud the murder of US citizens because their father’s religion is one they don’t like.
I have been with Free Republic since 1998, when I posted on my husband's account. I have seen posters with lots of good sense, and posters who were borderline morons. But I have never, until now, seen FReepers who openly supported a leftist tyrant's prerogative to kill anybody he chooses.
Perhaps you think muslim terroists should be left alone?
that’s right but noly if the government is at war with us. Are you suggestung that the government has decided to kill citizens on its own soil that have done nothing? I think not. A muslim terroist gets what he deserves. If you equate me with that shame on you. Your logic leads to pacifism... we shouldn’t hurt anyone
If yiu trust no man with the power to deal with traitors then surrender now. Apparently you do np think there is anything such as war. Your time in the gulag ought to be enjoyable... no one fights there
So who else should due process be suspended for?
Add me to the agree list.
I don't think I equated you to anything, you took offense to my post.
As far as the rest...I don't trust our government. I want our government to stay within the constitution and I believe they are starting to push the envelope. That isn't pacifism, that is treating government with suspicion.
Senator Rand Paul: I am concerned about one person deciding the life or death of not only foreigners but U.S. citizens around the world. And the chance that one person could make a mistake, you know, is a possibility. So having the president decide who he's going to kill concerns me. I would rather it go through a court, and there are actually secret courts, the FISA court investigates intelligence information. And most of these decisions aren't made like this. They make the decision over weeks and months. They target people and go after them. I see no reason why there couldn't be some sort of court preceding, even a secret court preceding, to allow some protection. I mean even in the United States where we have the best due process probably in the world, we have probably executed people wrongfully for the death penalty. They have found out through DNA testing, many people on death row are there inaccurately. And even Republicans have pulled back their beliefs some on death penalty. So I think when we decide to kill someone, that's obviously the ultimate punishment. We need to be very, very certain that what we're doing is not in error.
“FBI Director Robert Mueller on Wednesday said he would have to go back and check with the Department of Justice whether Attorney General Eric Holder’s “three criteria” for the targeted killing of Americans also applied to Americans inside the U.S.
Pressed by House lawmakers about a recent speech in which Holder described the legal justification for assassination, Mueller, who was attending a hearing on his agency’s budget, did not say without qualification that the three criteria could not be applied inside the U.S.”
Since its been my experience that at least 85% of Freepers totally ignore the procedural requirements for a Constitutional Declaration of War, the cheering for a blatant violation of the Right to Due Process probably shouldn't come as such a surprise. :-(
"Your" meaning? Really? You think "your" meaning is the defining meaning of the word "traitor" when we're speaking of a head of state's claim to the unchallengeable power to order a killing anywhere in the world?
Question: is a limited government with enumerated powers under a written Constitution a new or problematic concept for American conservatives?
What you're defending is what Barack Obama did --- that's what this thread is about, that's what you read at the top oif the thread --- and Barack Obama IS ... you know very well what he is.
A good man wouldn't want this power.
A bad man will never let it go.
Obama killed his own son?!
Yep. Dad was traitor; kid was a citizen “in name only.” Hate to say it to Obama, but “Good shootin’, Tex.”
I’m afraid that some FReepeers’ sense of right and wrong is basically what you could find in a madrassa.
Im afraid that some FReepeers sense of right and wrong is basically what you could find in a madrassa.
If yiu trust no man with the power to deal with traitors then surrender now.