Posted on 07/09/2012 7:04:16 PM PDT by suthener
MOBILE, Alabama -- The fatal gun shot that cut down a single mother of two Saturday night occurred in front of her teenage daughter, family members said today.
The daughter, who asked that her name not be used, said she was standing in her front yard when her mother, Wendy Fisher, ran across the street to retrieve their dog.
Fisher yelled at a passing car to slow down because it nearly hit the pet, the daughter said. At that point a black man with short hair got out of the car, she said.
The daughter said she is not sure if he or one of the two or three other men inside the vehicle fired 3 shots. The man who exited the car was wearing blue jeans and a light T-shirt, she said.
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And yet it only gets reported nationally if it's white on black crime.
Got that covered nicely. Many people in their desire to be PC, or in pretending to take the “high road”, won’t acknowledge that cube until their deaths.
stand and be a victim...
You are making this up.
You have absolutely no way of knowing whether this happened.
Two people were there, one is dead, and the other described it differently.
“I’d tell him to back off, and if he didn’t ...well, he should.”
If you’re stupid enough to point a gun at someone in such a case you’d be in jail. Pointing guns at strangers isn’t macho. If you’d do that to me I’d smoke you so fast you wouldn’t see it coming. Think about that.
Certainly you can tell them to slow down.
YELL AT THEM.
And get the consequences.
Under NC law, and it is similar in most states, precipitating a confrontation removes the right to claim self defense.
Zimmerman was out of the SUV.
Why did he get out?
What do you think he did when he got out?
Walk the other way?
Frankly I think the hanging judge is being too hard on Zimmerman. I believe he merits a lower bail and was abused by keeping him in jail for so long without bond.
But that said, he still did a stupid thing.
How many times have we preached [posted ] that on this forum. To wit: If you live in a mixed or unstable neighborhood— Move. If you only get to take the clothes on your back and your life, that is more than you will have if you choose to stay. Because when it goes, it is going quick and it is going violent.
Assumes facts not in evidence. Assumes “whitey” (or more accurately Hispanics) must cower in fear and restrict their own movements when a thug is about.
In short, your post would fit well on DU.
I’d expect better than that from you (recognize your nic).
That’s a fact!
You have the evidence?
Good.
Why did Zimmerman get out of his SUV?
Did he take one step towards Martin? Or more than one?
Since you have the facts, tell us what Martin thought when he saw this SUV stalking him. Did he have any fear?
What did he think when the guy got out of the SUV?
By the way, Wendy, the subject of this thread is a good example of what can happen when a vehicle stops and a guy jumps out of it. Martin because he was a street person, knew that.
No, I don’t know exactly what happened but I am pointing out that it is a lot more complicated than most people think and if the truth is ever to be known, all of these avenues will have to be explored. To simply say that Martin was a thug, which I don’t doubt, and that Zimmerman is a hero, which I do doubt, is being overly simplistic.
Remember that regardless of who is the hero and who is the villain, the law must be followed. You can shoot someone, no matter how wicked he is, only under certain clearly defined circumstances.
Mobile,Alabama police are on the lookout for a dark gray or green Honda Civic or Altima with dark, tinted windows, involved in the deadly shooting of 40 year old Wendy Fisher.
There were 3 or 4 young black males in the car that stopped when confronted by Fisher in broad daylight last Saturday, for speeding by her house on Racine Street and almost hitting her dog. Fisher likely never saw the face of her killer, who cracked open a door and shot her in the chest approximately five times.
Ms. Fisher remained conscious but in shock as a witness waited with her for an ambulance to arrive. She was transported to USA Medical Center where she died from her injuries. Witnesses say Ms. Fisher reacted to the car almost hitting her dog, and the car stopped and there may have been an argument and then she was shot. Since the killing was likely not planned, the other individuals in the car would probably not face any charges if they came forward to police before police locate them. However, if they do not report to the police they could be charged as accomplices to first-degree murder, which carries a penalty of life in prison or the death penalty.
It is very possible the other passengers -and the driver- if he is not the shooter - were as surprised and anyone when the shooter opened fire. It is doubtful the suspects will elude police who will be able to run queries on all sedans in the area, then narrow down the search and car ownership records based on more detailed information provided by witnesses.
It is a process of elimination that could take several weeks but arrests are probable in the near future. Ms. Fishers’s murder was the second one along Racine Street in about a week. Another person was killed by a driver as he walked along the side of the street. The neighborhood is known to have a problem with speeders who use it as a short-cut to other locations. Ms. Fisher was a mother of two children, whom she contantly bragged about at her workplace,
The Haberdasher in downtown Mobile.
Methinks you should watch a little less MSNBC. You know zip zero about the Zimmerman case
You successfully point out that the facts (including some you assumed up-thread) are unknow.
As to use of deadly force being legal in only certain cases? The only phyisical evidence matches Zimmerman’s story that he was getting his head bashed in. Unless facts - not supposition- show he started the physical confrontation, that’s one of those cases. Even if he was verbally threatening or abusive. To wit: you are not allowed to bash someone’s head in for being mean.
The shooting happened in the light of day, around 6:30 pm on Saturday.
Fisher was shot in her chest. She later died at the hospital.
Police have told WKRG they are looking for three or four black men who were riding in a dark green or grey sedan.
“Somebody who is closely related to the person that shot her knows what happen,” said Cpl. Chris Levy, spokesperson for the Mobile Police Department. “Hopefully they’ll come forward and tell us what happened.”
A candlelight vigil will be held tomorrow night at 7:30 in Cathedral Square (Dauphin/Clairborne). Organizers are asking everyone to bring their own candle.
Fisher’s funeral will be Friday at 11:00 a.m. at Connect Church in Daphne.
http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2012/jul/09/mother-shot-killed-yelling-speeder-ar-4097913/
Cute one liners do not add anything to the pool of knowledge.
Do us the courtesy of informing us of what you know.
How about some links to the NC or FL statutes or criminal code articles dealing with “precipitating a confrontation” in these cases? I mean, you *have* actually looked this stuff up, so the info should be close at hand... right?
Yeah, blame the victim. Gee, maybe Zimmerman shouldn't have gotten out of bed that morning.
Even if he was verbally threatening or abusive. To wit: you are not allowed to bash someone’s head in for being mean.
That is correct.
But if you have reason to fear for your life you can strike the first blow.
My point again is that here was a black kid, a street kid, being stalked by a vehicle. Dark night, all alone on the street.
You don’t think he was scared?
He was a street kid expecting a beat down.
Martin was a thug.
Zimmerman was stupid.
What utter crap. Please stop repeating yourself. Zimmerman was doing his job—defending civilization. It's in fact every man's job. Martin was a criminal, acting like a criminal, as Zimmerman's contemporaneous comments to the 9-11 operator indicate. Zimmerman told the operator he was trying to see where Martin was going, and I don't see any reason to disbelieve him.
Trying to talk yourself (and everyone else) into the idea that everything will be all right if only we don't rile the jackals is inaccurate as well as cowardly. Property crime and violence are both crimes of opportunity: Give thugs an inch, and they just take another mile of territory.
Confronting evil in a dangerous neighborhood is an honorable and appropriate thing to do. Sometimes you have to fight, and sometimes the thug will die. (And sometimes the good guy will.) You have to face the fact that our times really are difficult. Zimmerman was acting on your behalf. We can't afford to take your attitude if we want to get the chaos under control and reclaim our country, where the innocent have rights, rather than the feral half-men who prey on the poor—white, black, and "white Hispanic."
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