Posted on 07/09/2012 7:43:54 PM PDT by MaryLou1
How can Romney beat Obama when almost half of the country is on government assistance?
The poll numbers amazed me-how can Obama be that close (or even beat) Romney in the polls?
Because the takers won't vote to cut their aid-why would they?
Illegals who don't have to show ID will take those numbers over the top and Obama will win by default.
reference source for the statistics: http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/07/news/economy/government_assistance/index.htm
Sometimes personal dignity has it's price when a person never valued it in the first place
p.s. this country was founded by people who rejected government control-how dare they take a country that restored and fought for self reliance and turn it into a nation of slaves?
The slaves on the plantation were controlled too, but they had their food and lodging paid for-and guess what? they didn't like it, they wanted freedom.
Imagine that!
“And certainly not at the pitiful $6,000,000,000,000 borrowed from Social Security to pay for government backed mortgages and educational loans.”
Money that went for goodies that the boomers have already received.
“Someone with $100 trillion in assets cannot plead poverty as an excuse in the face of a mere $6 trillion debt.”
So tell me why that asset should be given away to people who have spent the assets that they did have?
“To invoke the privilege of age and class warfare as justification for screwing the creditors is ridiculous.”
Why not? That’s exactly what social security does. It invokes the privilege of age.
Here's your problem ~ the $6 trillion was taken from the Boomers IN ADVANCE of the actuarially determined need.
It was spent on cr*p by people long dead.
Now you want to have that obligation canceled so you can do what?
Isn't it enough that housing prices have been cut in half?
Here's your problem ~ the $6 trillion was taken from the Boomers IN ADVANCE of the actuarially determined need.
It was spent on cr*p by people long dead.
Now you want to have that obligation canceled so you can do what?
Isn't it enough that housing prices have been cut in half?
“Here’s your problem ~ the $6 trillion was taken from the Boomers IN ADVANCE of the actuarially determined need.”
Money that the boomers themselves took out to pay for toys and goodies.
“It was spent on cr*p by people long dead.”
You said it was used to fund housing and education. Seems to me Boomers made a decision and are unhappy with the results of that decision.
“Now you want to have that obligation canceled so you can do what?”
What obligation do I have to pay into social security? Is it constitutional? I don’t want social security. I’m ok with not receiving a penny. I’d much rather stash my own money away and make more.
I want social security done away with because:
1, it’s a ponzi scheme.
2, it’s one of the largest wastes of money by the government
3, it does a terrible job of the one thing it is supposed to do - give you a return on your ‘investment’.
We could have scrapped it 12 years ago, but the Boomers said no then. Now they are pissy that people want to scrap it now. Cry me a river.
You had your chance to do the right thing and kill an unconstitutional relic. But you want to get your hand up to the trough first before you check out.
And you’ll get it to - by bankrupting the nation along the way. Who cares about the future so long as I got mine!
“Isn’t it enough that housing prices have been cut in half?”
Thank God they’ve fallen somewhat back to sane levels. Housing should be about 3x what people make. Now we might be able to actually afford a house if anyone is willing to hire us for 30k or so a year.
Whether it's constitutional or not, it's there ~ the money was seized at the point of a gun from people who would want it back.
You can't just cancel out the debt ~ that is theft.
Thanks for this thread.
Any one of us that has the Proud Welfare Eagle fly over our mail box knows that we are on the Federal Entitlement Tax Slavery Plantation.
THE MAN lives in THE BIG HOUSE at 1600 Plantation Avenue, District of Corruption.
As Federal Entitlement Tax Slaves we can vote in anything that we want to - - - , we ARE the 50 % !
“Whether it’s constitutional or not, it’s there ~ the money was seized at the point of a gun from people who would want it back.”
And it’s still seizing money at the point of the gun from people who want it back. It hasn’t stopped doing this.
“You can’t just cancel out the debt ~ that is theft.”
And stealing it from your children isn’t? Do you think your child doesn’t notice you running through his piggy bank? What do you think your child is going to think when he sees this?
Everyone has their own responsibility to look after their own retirement. It was wrong that the money was stolen from you, I agree. But it’s not less wrong to steal that money from other people. This is why social security has to end.
As far as I’m concerned, either you guys end it, or we will. If it means that my generation is the one that pays in and gets nothing out of it, then fine. At least our kids are going to have a future.
Look, Social Security is chump change compared to the wealth in this country that is held by the federal government.
Kick the can, kick the can. Just keep kicking that can down the road and leave the mess for others to clean up.
i think the can has quite a ways to go before we start tossing the old folks out in the road.
We await the “results” with trepidation ............
To most people success is working hard, having a successful career and earning your money. To LIB asshat moonbats success is getting as much as you can from the government with the least effort and without any personal responsibility or work ethic. Beyond pathetic!
Then you’re in for a nasty surprise when the bill finally comes due.
I get to sell what I want.
Then, there's an oil lease area ~ a private company is pumping oil, but they pay the gub'mnt a royalty. So, I sez to the judge, "Hey judge, sign me up for the royalties from that there oil well in the picture ~ for 15 years".
One more time, when you have assets they can be converted to pay your debts.
Most of the Western United States need to be sold off and converted to private enterprise.
Kill social security and then we can talk about stuff like this. I think it’s a creative way to solve the problem - but killing social security has to come first.
We are speaking of HUNDREDS OF TRILLIONS OF BUCKS ~ nobody has money like that.
Again, your reluctance to scale up your thinking is leading you into irrelevant conclusions.
We have a great national patrimony and it must be put to work ~
So, sell off all of it and pay off the debt. :)
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