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DOJ Reveals Brian Terry Was Shooting Bean Bags At Men Who Killed Him
Breitbart TV ^ | July 9

Posted on 07/10/2012 5:39:44 AM PDT by icwhatudo

The Department of Justice unsealed documents today showing that Brian Terry was shooting bean bags at men who returned fire with assault rifles.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; beanbags; brianterry; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; jaimezapata; murdergate; obama; terry; zapata
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A madhouse...
1 posted on 07/10/2012 5:39:48 AM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: icwhatudo

Zell Miller was right.


2 posted on 07/10/2012 5:40:58 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote
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To: icwhatudo

3 posted on 07/10/2012 5:41:12 AM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
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To: icwhatudo

Insanity!! ...my head is going to explode!


4 posted on 07/10/2012 5:42:56 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: icwhatudo

These sorry bastards. They sell full up assault weapons of all verities to our enemies and then issue ROE where our defenders shoot friggin BEAN BAGS in return. Dear God, what a complete and total travesty.

People need to go to jail...for the sake of our nation we MUST get this administration and anyone thinking this way out of and away from ANY position of trust.

MURDERGATE: Eric Holder and Fast and Furious
http://www.jeffhead.com/fandf.htm


5 posted on 07/10/2012 5:43:42 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: icwhatudo

Is this satire?


6 posted on 07/10/2012 5:44:09 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: icwhatudo

David Codrea: FBI unsealing indictment could endanger Terry murder suspects
http://www.examiner.com/article/fbi-unsealing-indictment-could-endanger-terry-murder-suspects

So who will kill them first - if they aren’t already dead.

The Drug Lords(US) or the Drug Lords, (Mexico) or the Drug Lords (Cartel)


7 posted on 07/10/2012 5:45:46 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: icwhatudo

A madhouse...


Man. You got that right. Un-bephuckin’-real. I would laugh, but I can’t.

I...just can’t.


8 posted on 07/10/2012 5:46:09 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: atc23

Both the article and picture used to illustrate PC madness, are real.


9 posted on 07/10/2012 5:47:30 AM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
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To: icwhatudo

I bet the shooters (who had bullets) were laughing. Bean bags.


10 posted on 07/10/2012 5:48:03 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: icwhatudo

Bean bags? Wouldn’t a set of steel horseshoes been the better choice? What the hell is wrong with Napolitiano?


11 posted on 07/10/2012 5:48:59 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Help reduce voter fraud in America! If you see something, say something!)
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To: icwhatudo

Sounds like something America the Stupid would do...


12 posted on 07/10/2012 5:50:55 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: icwhatudo

I guess if Terry had cursed at them in Spanish;he would have been charged with a hate crime!


13 posted on 07/10/2012 5:51:00 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: icwhatudo

BEANBAGS!!!

those things can give you a nasty bruise.


14 posted on 07/10/2012 5:51:09 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: icwhatudo

I remember when that picture first appeared. I said at the time that we just threw away Afghanistan.

Yep....

Just like the US Government to send people with bean bags against live ammo.

*tragic facepalm*


15 posted on 07/10/2012 5:53:57 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: icwhatudo

This is nuts! What kind of a gun shoots beanbags?


16 posted on 07/10/2012 5:56:01 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Vaquero

I’m fairly sure he had a back-up weapon of harsh language.

Jeeez....


17 posted on 07/10/2012 5:56:35 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: icwhatudo

The “GI’s” are in a combat zone, armed to the teeth and ready to go. The GUY is equipped with a STEEL HELMET. The GALS are equipped with designer scarves. Do the rifles the soldierettes carry shoot bullets or beanbags?
Germany and Japan should have bided their time.
Who claims credit for this PC INSANITY?


18 posted on 07/10/2012 5:56:50 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf ( NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: icwhatudo
A nation this stupid won't be a superpower much longer.


19 posted on 07/10/2012 5:57:41 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Ditter

They have bean bag rounds for 12 and 10 ga. shotguns.

Non-lethal, to everyone but the shooter. God, does this piss me off.


20 posted on 07/10/2012 5:59:16 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: atc23
Is this satire?

This is neither satire nor "new" news.

21 posted on 07/10/2012 5:59:33 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: icwhatudo

I thought the fact the agents were armed with beanbags was already common knowledge. I guess until now it was just a “rumor” that had me fuming.


22 posted on 07/10/2012 5:59:41 AM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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To: Ditter

Shotgun! I had heard this a long time ago and found it believable in this day and time when we “have” to use less than lethal force if at all possible. HUH? AR vs AK and most likely the AK is gonna win out with it’s more powerful cartridge. I say we let these guys on the border use M-14s. I’m pretty sure there are a bunch in a warehouse someplace.

Helping keep mankind warm for 65 years.


23 posted on 07/10/2012 6:01:56 AM PDT by rktman
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To: icwhatudo
I thought we knew this from the beginning?
24 posted on 07/10/2012 6:02:59 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

The guy is equipped with a PASGT kevlar helmet. The ol’ M-1 STEEL HELMET went buh-bye in the 80’s


25 posted on 07/10/2012 6:04:54 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: icwhatudo

“For the first time, federal officials revealed Monday that murdered Border Patrol agent Brian Terry and an elite squad of federal agents FIRST fired bean bags — not bullets — at a heavily armed drug cartel crew in the mountains south of Tucson in December 2011.”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07/white-house-admits-brian-terry-border-agents-fired-beanbags-not-bullets-during-cartel-shootout/

First fired bean bags. That would seem to suggest that they may have switched from using bean bags to using bullets? I don’t know.


26 posted on 07/10/2012 6:07:33 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: icwhatudo

I’m ashamed of my government. Napolitano and Holder should resign NOW!


27 posted on 07/10/2012 6:08:15 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: icwhatudo
This is issue alone would/should allow a competent opponent to win the White House.
28 posted on 07/10/2012 6:08:32 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("The writing is on the wall - Unions are screwed. reformist2 10:04 PM #27")
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To: 98ZJ USMC
They have bean bag rounds for 12 and 10 ga. shotguns.

I have a half dozen rounds of the 12ga stuff, someone gave me...one day I will have to experiment with the stuff and see what it can do.....set up some ballistic gel(or something) at close range and see it it does anything at all.....unbelievable that it was issued for any purpose other that crowd control

29 posted on 07/10/2012 6:10:24 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

Beanbags!!! Beanbags!!! Would that be like shooting as prepackaged meal at the mexos? Sheesh! Many in the nobama administration should be in prison for a variety of reasons. None are...


30 posted on 07/10/2012 6:10:37 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: icwhatudo

This ain’t ground breaking news. Katie Pavlich in her book Fast and Furious mentions that our guys had to fight with bean bags.

Major Garret interviewed her on CSPAN’s After Words, and he kept peppering her that there were no paper trails with Holder’s signature on them. That was about the only retort he could make against Pavlich’s rapid fire presentation of furious facts. She was great.

I want some reporter to ask Romney if, when he becomes president, will he still pursue Holder? Will he do his job to faithfully execute the laws and bring this criminal to justice?


31 posted on 07/10/2012 6:10:41 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: icwhatudo

The Administration doesn’t want to alienate Mexicans who may become Democratic voters some day.


32 posted on 07/10/2012 6:11:31 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: rktman

AR vs AK and most likely the AK is gonna win out with it’s more powerful cartridge.


Ummm....no.

It depends primarily on a heavy dose of luck, some skill and the one that has the superior brain housing group. I’ll take my CAR-15 over an AK any day of the week. The M-14 is a marvelous shooter and there are a great many still in long term storage. Not my top pick for a close-in 10-20 yard quick engagement. I would actually prefer a Thompson, but I will definitely take my CAR-15 (converted).


33 posted on 07/10/2012 6:18:02 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: popdonnelly
The Administration doesn’t want to alienate Mexicans who may become Democratic voters some day are already Democratic voters.
34 posted on 07/10/2012 6:18:48 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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Bean bags???!!!!Headline should read:

ATF Murders its Own Agent


35 posted on 07/10/2012 6:20:18 AM PDT by RatRipper (Obama, YOU LIE!!! . . .again and again and again and again, ad infinitum. . . .)
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To: Vaquero

Probably just stun and bruise. They showed these on a show awhile back (don’t remember what it was). They’re pretty short range. Best guess: 30 yds. max.


36 posted on 07/10/2012 6:24:01 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Jeff Head
Living about 40 miles away from the CA/Mexico border, I just can't believe what our Border Patrol is being armed with! I can't imagine going to work everyday under these circumstances!

The Mexico violence is spilling over to our side very quickly and we are left with "spitballs"!

All this in an effort to disarm the American citizens....we must win this fight in November!

37 posted on 07/10/2012 6:24:53 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (I just try to stay out of the fray...)
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Throwing beans at a Mexican? How racist!


38 posted on 07/10/2012 6:28:00 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: icwhatudo

Rules of engagement will kill our people everytime.


39 posted on 07/10/2012 6:28:22 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
The same as Obama... She wants Americans to die... This is insane. The true murderers here are the Obamanites.
40 posted on 07/10/2012 6:34:27 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: rktman

...I guess that the 16,000 new IRS agents hired to enforce ObamiCare will be issued with bean bags to accompany the 16,000 shotguns just purchased.


41 posted on 07/10/2012 6:36:43 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: massgopguy

Bwahahaha! I didn’t catch that! Now this is something we can nail Napolitano for and it will stick!


42 posted on 07/10/2012 6:39:04 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (I just try to stay out of the fray...)
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To: hal ogen
Beanbags!!! Beanbags!!! Would that be like shooting as prepackaged meal at the mexos?

for illegals, the INF needs to load their double gun with rice bags in one barrel and bean bags in the other...YUM...

....they can wait on line for free cheese just like every other indigent.

43 posted on 07/10/2012 6:44:24 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Ditter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yimOpkXFjIk


44 posted on 07/10/2012 6:45:32 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: 98ZJ USMC
They have bean bag rounds for 12 and 10 ga. shotguns.

on the southern border they should be using refried bean bags

45 posted on 07/10/2012 6:50:06 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: popdonnelly

wow this is some joke!


46 posted on 07/10/2012 6:55:49 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Vaquero

I used one to break up a dog fight, once. Knocked a neighbor’s big dog down for a couple of seconds before he jumped up and headed home as fast as he could go. Heard later he had some bruised ribs, but was OK otherwise. Never came back to my yard, tho.


47 posted on 07/10/2012 7:02:40 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: icwhatudo

Interesting that one of the BP union locals freaked out about having to view an active shooter training lecture meant for office staff, but I don’t remember anybody screaming about this ROE. The Sector Chief was transferred right after this incident, but I don’t know if that was punitive. In general BP leadership is pretty poor so there isn’t any reason to believe the replacement would be any better.


48 posted on 07/10/2012 7:04:21 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: television is just wrong

What happens is this:

Every day more illegal Mexicans sneak across the border.

Every day.

Every day likewise, more illegal Mexicans become legal.

Every day.

Eventually the number of (legal) Mexicans will become so large, that combined with the number of blacks - it will become large enough to be unbeatable.

To stop that, we must bring back American jobs. To eliminate the Chinese threat to America.

To CHANGE that, we must stop sending American jobs overseas.

Now.

Stop sucking up to Mexican illegals, and bring back AMERICAN jobs.

Now.

Because later will be too late.


49 posted on 07/10/2012 7:06:20 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: bmwcyle
ROE can be written to serve our troops, such as “boarder crossers are to be considered invaders and use of deadly force is authorized.” Just the announcement of such a policy could dramatically reduce the invasion forces.
50 posted on 07/10/2012 7:06:30 AM PDT by Never on my watch (I'd rather light a candle than curse the flatulence.)
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