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Hip-Hop World Gives Gay Singer Support
New York Times ^ | July 6 2012 | James C McKinnley, Jr.

Posted on 07/10/2012 8:45:44 AM PDT by scottjewell

When Frank Ocean, a rising star in the R&B world, announced on Tuesday that his first true love had been a man, he seemed to be taking a giant risk with his career.

After all, Mr. Ocean, 24, is a rising star in the hypermasculine world of urban music, where singers cultivate images as lady-killers. He is a member of the Odd Future hip-hop collective, whose rappers are known for using anti-gay slurs. No other mainstream R&B artists have acknowledged having homosexual relationships. For decades, even the rumor of homosexuality had ruined artists in hip-hop circles.

But how big a gamble was it? Mr. Ocean has received strong support from other artists, his record label and cultural commentators, while the negative reactions have been largely muted and equivocal.

That lack of uproar seems to echo a broader shift in attitudes toward homosexuality and gay culture: Coming out is not as controversial as it once was. Mr. Ocean’s revelation occurred just days after Anderson Cooper, the CNN anchor, acknowledged that he was gay. It also comes just months after Jay-Z, Russell Simmons and other hip-hop figures forcefully supported President Obama after he announced his support for gay marriage.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: culturewars; downlowbrothers; hiphop; homosexualagenda; music; urban
What is interesting - and disappointing - to me is that one thing I actually always liked about the world of hip hop, was that it was a COUNTER FORCE to political correctness. No longer, apparently. Still surprising to me.
1 posted on 07/10/2012 8:45:53 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

Is he related to Billy Ocean?


2 posted on 07/10/2012 8:48:15 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: scottjewell

sounds like they just found a new way to be narsty that’s all.


3 posted on 07/10/2012 8:55:32 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew)
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To: scottjewell
Anything to protect the queen in the White House.


4 posted on 07/10/2012 8:57:54 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama doesnÂ’t have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: scottjewell

I think this is propaganda. The black friends I know are VERY anti-gay. Obama lost a lot of support in the black community when he came “out” for gay marriage.


5 posted on 07/10/2012 8:58:16 AM PDT by rem_mitchell
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To: scottjewell
Wow, didn't know they all loved fishsticks.
6 posted on 07/10/2012 8:58:36 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote
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To: rem_mitchell

“I think this is propaganda. The black friends I know are VERY anti-gay. Obama lost a lot of support in the black community when he came “out” for gay marriage.”


I hope so. That has been my experience as well. Guess there are some PR advocates who orchestrate such “comings out”.


7 posted on 07/10/2012 9:12:08 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Right. The new backlash against the backlash via hip hop.


8 posted on 07/10/2012 9:14:31 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

Boys without fathers, which is the vast majority of black males, do not have healthy models for productive masculinity or adult relationships. “Hypermasculinity” - compulsive fornication, abuse of women, inappropriate (hetero)sexual acting-out - is one of their common attempts at being a man. Homosexuality - the narcissism of trying to find an identity through focus on another young man - is the other common manifestation.

Think there are no hip-hop performers on the down-low? Think again. And yes, they’ll vote for their guy, the one who’s just like them ... Barack Obama.


9 posted on 07/10/2012 9:20:30 AM PDT by Tax-chick (And I'm like, "So we die. Whatever.")
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To: scottjewell

This article is pure fantasy. The NYT probably found a couple people who said on record that they supported this guy. The reality is that 99.99% of hip hop “artists” are very anti-gay to the point of advocating violence against gays. This says more about the NYT / Liberal fantasy about how America should work than any reality.


10 posted on 07/10/2012 9:44:25 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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What did you expect? Violent urban youths and effete wealthy white homosexuals are both oppressed by "the man."

The old saying "no enemies on the Left" has always held.

11 posted on 07/10/2012 9:47:37 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

I hope you are right. I guess you probably are. Never underestimate the spin doctors at the New York Times.


12 posted on 07/10/2012 10:18:48 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Well, I recall the old days when Eminem and Dr. Dre both spoke openly of their disdain for the same sex marriage movement, but I think Eminem even swung left at some point. But yeah, the saying hold: “no enemies to the left, no friends to the right” is the way to isolate the right, but even many in the GOP are going pro-gay now.


13 posted on 07/10/2012 10:23:10 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

Maybe he can get some “Booty Sweat” from Alpa Chino.

“What do you mean “you people”?”


14 posted on 07/10/2012 11:06:18 AM PDT by History Repeats (Drink plenty of TEA, but avoid the Koolaid.)
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To: scottjewell
I heard this guy was gay.


15 posted on 07/10/2012 11:24:06 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: freedomlover

LOL


16 posted on 07/10/2012 11:46:26 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

This is BS

Black thugs loathe queers even though that hardly jibes with how they behave in the joint.

Btw....there is no redemption in hip hop culture

It is a pus filled scab on a degenerative culture

About as much redemption as could be found at a Sinaloa Cartel goat roast


17 posted on 07/10/2012 12:05:09 PM PDT by wardaddy (John Roberts collection of Sally Quinn's panties just got a hefty contribution this week..)
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To: wardaddy

Yep, true....No, did not think there was “redemption”. Just thought there was something *anti-gay political correctness*.


18 posted on 07/10/2012 12:09:48 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks scottjewell.


19 posted on 07/10/2012 6:44:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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