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Obama To Sign Anti-Second Amendment U.N. Anti-Gun Treaty
Investors Business Daily ^ | 7-9-2012 | Investors Business Daily

Posted on 07/10/2012 1:47:25 PM PDT by no-llmd

The United Nations is putting the finishing touches on an Arms Trade Treaty that transcends borders and may even trample our Constitutional right to bear arms. Every indication is that the president will sign it.

Like the New Start and Law of the Sea treaties before it, as well as the Kyoto Protocol and Agenda 21, the Arms Trade Treaty being finalized at the U.N. this month is one of those feel-good, can't-we-all-get-along pieces of parchment whose net effect is to accomplish little except to eat away at American sovereignty and freedom.

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“We are assured by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who enthusiastically backs the treaty, that it only deals with international trade and trafficking and does not affect our Second Amendment rights. How the treaty would have dealt with Operation Fast and Furious, the administration program that walked guns into the hands of Mexican drug cartels, she does not say. We don’t believe such assurances, given by an administration that has shown no respect for the U.S. Constitution and has a robust gun-control agenda of which Fast and Furious may have been a part.”
1 posted on 07/10/2012 1:47:30 PM PDT by no-llmd
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To: no-llmd
I believe this will start a civil war and enable Obozo to call out martial law and suspend the elections. I think this has been his plan all along.
2 posted on 07/10/2012 1:57:50 PM PDT by jrd (DO AWAY WITH THE EPA)
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To: no-llmd

None dare call it treason.....


3 posted on 07/10/2012 1:59:29 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: no-llmd

This is treason. Can we impeach him NOW???????


4 posted on 07/10/2012 2:02:33 PM PDT by left that other site
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To: no-llmd

He (it) can sign whatever he (it) wants.

I don’t give a fat, slimy, smelly Obama about the UN and they can shove themselves up Obama’s ........

Ah, the UN...you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villany.


5 posted on 07/10/2012 2:03:09 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: no-llmd

All treaties must be approved by the Senate with a 60% super majority vote or the treaties are meaningless, just like the Kyoto treaty which Bill Clinton signed.


6 posted on 07/10/2012 2:06:39 PM PDT by Eva
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To: no-llmd

UN = Unpunished Nazis

They can sign whatever they want. They will never get 2/3 of Senate to vote for it. Even in super-liberal states gun grabbing is not tolerated

People who support Gun Control only want to keep guns away from white folks


7 posted on 07/10/2012 2:06:45 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Romney has foreign assets.....Obama has foreign birth certifcates)
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To: jrd

Did anyone else hear about the recent St. Louis urban army exercise? Can anyone confirm that it was called “Operation: Better Not Fight Back, Whitey”?


8 posted on 07/10/2012 2:08:43 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: no-llmd
What else would anybody expect from this f++king little anti-American t*rd and his a$$ sucking enablers?

This could end very badly for America and the peace and stability of our country and our God-given liberties. This is a genuine line in the sand for many - and for good reason. It was a line in the sand many years ago for those at Lexington and Concord, too...

9 posted on 07/10/2012 2:10:19 PM PDT by Gritty (Obama's Latin-American future for us; a corrupt governing class ruling a dysfunctional morass-MSteyn)
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To: Eva
All treaties must be approved by the Senate with a 60% super majority vote or the treaties are meaningless,

Also, there is a process to amend the Constitution which requires far more support than the treaty approval process. As such, not treaty, no matter what it says can legally transcend the protections of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

10 posted on 07/10/2012 2:11:44 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Gritty

This could very well make a revolution a reality.


11 posted on 07/10/2012 2:12:00 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: no-llmd

Guns don’t kill people. People infected with AIDS and who have unprotected sex kill people.


12 posted on 07/10/2012 2:20:29 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the StatistI)
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To: no-llmd

Good. You sign it, Obamugabe.

2/3 of the Senate has to approve the treaty, and that isn’t going to happen.

What WILL happen is that gun groups like the NRA and the Second Amendment Sisters will rally millions of people to vote against you and your party, exposing you accurately as a gun grabbing fascist.

Thanks, Obamugabe. You’re signing not just a treaty, but a “surrender” document for your Demon Rat party.


13 posted on 07/10/2012 2:20:50 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: MrB

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/06/us-military-to-run-urban-exercises-in-north-st-louis-residents-hope-it-will-cut-down-on-crime/


14 posted on 07/10/2012 2:21:15 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: no-llmd

No worries.
Just about everything Zero has done for 3 1/2 years has been ultra vires: beyond the scope or in excess of his legal power or authority.
Only three more full months and we’re shed of this douche bag.


15 posted on 07/10/2012 2:23:09 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: BenLurkin

I do believe he’s just getting started.

What with November coming and he’s running short on fund-raising.

Maybe I’m wrong.


16 posted on 07/10/2012 2:23:24 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: SeminoleCounty
They will never get 2/3 of Senate to vote for it.

Want to bet? It is quite possible.

All the Dems need is 34 votes for it if the Dems sneak an unexpected vote in with a bare quorum in attendence some unexpected time when the GOP isn't paying attention - which is most of the time. All they need is a quorum (50+1) on the floor and a quick vote (even a voice vote might do). They easily have enough votes for that. They could secretly set an ambush vote up ahead of time to catch the solmnolent GOP unawares.

Do you put it past them? It sounds just like how they would do it. Do you think McConnell or anybody else on our side is paying attention? All of a sudden, it will be done and over - and legal.

17 posted on 07/10/2012 2:25:12 PM PDT by Gritty (Obama's Latin-American future for us; a corrupt governing class ruling a dysfunctional morass-MSteyn)
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18 posted on 07/10/2012 2:25:39 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: Eva

I think a super majority is 2/3 of the Senate. I also think any Senator who approves this better be afraid of going back to their home state.


19 posted on 07/10/2012 2:30:20 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: P.O.E.

So, was the operation called
“Better Not Fight Back, Whitey”
or
“Whitey Don’t Fight Back”

??

I wasn’t clear on what I’d heard.


20 posted on 07/10/2012 2:32:15 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Gritty
All the Dems need is 34 votes for it if the Dems sneak an unexpected vote in with a bare quorum in attendence some unexpected time when the GOP isn't paying attention - which is most of the time. All they need is a quorum (50+1) on the floor and a quick vote (even a voice vote might do).

Not so. To ratify a treaty, the Constitution requires 2/3 approval by the full Senate -- i.e., 67 votes.

21 posted on 07/10/2012 2:32:26 PM PDT by okie01 (+64)
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To: no-llmd

Eligibility counts.


22 posted on 07/10/2012 2:39:33 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: jrd

In the event of a “gun grab” and subsequent civil war, there will not be adequate resources in Mordor to enforce martial law.


23 posted on 07/10/2012 2:39:52 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: All

24 posted on 07/10/2012 2:42:20 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Da Coyote
I don’t give a...

Take a look at your collection. H&K? Glock? Sig? FN? Taurus? Steyr? ...? all foreign. Ditto a lot of what you feed them: Wolf? surplus?

Methinks they're willing to put up with the "FMCDH!" holdouts, so long as they can't restock, repair, or resupply. War of attrition.

25 posted on 07/10/2012 2:45:47 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: left that other site

For congresscritters NOT to impeach 0 should be considered an act of treason.


26 posted on 07/10/2012 2:47:40 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: left that other site

The republicans are gifting this to Obama... A Marxist is a marxist and anti american actions are normal..What the republicans are doing i treason because they pretend to be the party that upholds liberty...


27 posted on 07/10/2012 2:48:43 PM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: Da Coyote

>Ah, the UN...you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villany.<

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This is the same UN that is totally quiet about the well-armed Swiss and Yemeni.

For purely political reasons, the UN is singling out the US because this anti-American organization knows damn well who is in the WH. They should have tried that sh*t with Reagan.

Defund the bastards.


28 posted on 07/10/2012 2:53:43 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG; Breto

I hear you and concur.


29 posted on 07/10/2012 3:00:47 PM PDT by left that other site
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To: okie01

I believe the language is ‘2/3 of those present’ though...


30 posted on 07/10/2012 3:04:08 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: ctdonath2

The only positive thing I can see regarding cut off of foreign supplies is that it may stimulate production at a local level in the free states.


31 posted on 07/10/2012 3:08:23 PM PDT by jimbobfoster
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To: no-llmd

This from a President who is covering up his own authorized illegal gun sales to narcoterrorists.

Lying Marxist BASTARD manchild.


32 posted on 07/10/2012 3:17:26 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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33 posted on 07/10/2012 3:20:54 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Obama hates Mexicans (Fast and Furious))
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To: spacejunkie2001

Yep. 2/3 those present.


34 posted on 07/10/2012 3:22:20 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I miss Harriet Miers.)
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To: no-llmd

I believe treaties must be ratified by a 2/3 majority in the Senate. Obama can sign ‘til his head falls off, and it still is not a binding treaty.


35 posted on 07/10/2012 3:24:45 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: no-llmd

Just as the world’s worst human rights violators sat on and often chaired the U.N. Human Rights Council, Iran, arms supplier extraordinaire to America’s enemies, was elected on Saturday to a top position on the United Nations Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty being held in New York. It began July 2 and extends through July 27.

This came right after the same U.N. found Iran guilty of illegally transferring guns and bombs to the murderous Syrian regime of Bashar Assad, currently slaughtering thousands of its own citizens as an impotent U.N. joins the U.S. administration in standing around and watching.


Oh UN. You so fun .... I mean, scary.


36 posted on 07/10/2012 3:28:56 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

You nailed it.


37 posted on 07/10/2012 3:33:16 PM PDT by freedomtrail (EEOC- Eventual Elimination Of Caucasians)
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To: Eva
All treaties must be approved by the Senate with a 60% super majority vote or the treaties are meaningless, just like the Kyoto treaty which Bill Clinton signed.

The Constitution says 2/3rds of senators present.

38 posted on 07/10/2012 3:44:27 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Da Coyote
He will sign and the senate will not sign off on the treaty.
When that happens king barack will by executive order
tell the ATF to begin enforcing the terms of the treaty
regardless of congress and the congress will bluster and
rant and do NOTHING.
39 posted on 07/10/2012 3:47:14 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: Da Coyote
He will sign and the senate will not sign off on the treaty.
When that happens king barack will by executive order
tell the ATF to begin enforcing the terms of the treaty
regardless of congress and the congress will bluster and
rant and do NOTHING.
40 posted on 07/10/2012 3:47:40 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: SoFloFreeper
> 2/3 of the Senate has to approve the treaty, and that isn’t going to happen.

I used to think that way too, until Roberts upheld ObamaCare as constitutional ...

41 posted on 07/10/2012 3:57:12 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Thank you for mentioning that little gem.


42 posted on 07/10/2012 4:16:23 PM PDT by Postman (US out of the UN. UN out of the US.)
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To: no-llmd

If King Barack tries to enforce this, we will find out where the loyalties of our military and police lie: with the Constitution and the Republic, or with the King.

Part of me dreads such a thing; but another part of me thinks it will be better to have the truth out in the open for all to see.


43 posted on 07/10/2012 4:20:44 PM PDT by hitkicker (The only thing worse than a politician is a child molester)
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To: no-llmd

Can’t wait, let’s get it started. 1,000 more rounds coming in this week. Over 500 rounds in loaded mags will be on standby. That’s just one firearm.


44 posted on 07/10/2012 4:45:31 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: jrd; BenLurkin

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


45 posted on 07/10/2012 4:48:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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To: Gritty

I wouldn’t want that bet. The unfortunate reality is, however, 2/3 of Senators present. That said, I doubt it will happen and hope it won’t because I’m too old and tired to get involved in any more wars. Trite current tagline still holds.


46 posted on 07/10/2012 4:57:51 PM PDT by Postman (US out of the UN. UN out of the US.)
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To: okie01; Gritty
Not so. To ratify a treaty, the Constitution requires 2/3 approval by the full Senate -- i.e., 67 votes.

Gritty is correct. There is a big difference between 2/3 of the full membership of the senate and 2/3 of the senators present. The US Constitution specifically says in Article II that only 2/3 of the senators present are necessary to ratify a treaty:

He [the president] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur...

This means that 67 votes are not required to ratify a treaty unless the full senate is present at the vote. The minimum quorum of senators necessary to do business is 51 senators and therefore, the minimum number of senators necessary to ratify a treaty is 34 senators while 67 senators is the largest possible number of senators needed to ratify a treaty.

47 posted on 07/10/2012 5:20:08 PM PDT by old republic
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To: old republic

I stand corrected.


48 posted on 07/10/2012 5:37:11 PM PDT by okie01 (+64)
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To: okie01
He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.
49 posted on 07/10/2012 6:00:22 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: okie01

>> Not so. To ratify a treaty, the Constitution requires 2/3 approval by the full Senate — i.e., 67 votes.

I’m under the impression a number of RINOs in the Senate are amenable to this charade.


50 posted on 07/10/2012 6:03:56 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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