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How Tom Cruise is to Scientology what Mitt Romney is to Mormonism
Odd Onion ^ | Michael Wolff

Posted on 07/10/2012 2:39:24 PM PDT by Enosh

*Snip*

It is another point of subtle confusion that both Churchs are – to their advantage, but perhaps even more to their peril – bound to a famous son. And they each, to a considerable degree, take on the character of their most famous adherent. Curiously, they also risk taking on aspects of the other’s big name. Weird and frightening Tom and robotic Mitt seem like generic cult characters. If cult-like religions speak to each other, it may be, in an ultimate conspiracy, that the Mormon leaders, now more than ever fearful of cult backlash, called up their Scientology counterparts and begged for an immediate Cruise capitulation to Holmes and an end to the tabloid coverage of culty rituals and dogma.

Conversely, this demonstration of Cruise’s strict adherence to Scientology’s interests might easily spread to questions about Romney’s allegiance with regard to Mormonism. (In 1960, John F Kennedy had to specifically disavow his fealty to the Pope.)

Here’s the thing: for a supposedly religious country, we really do feel extremely queasy about secret practices, mystical beliefs (whether involving aliens or not), and unfamiliar mumbo jumbo. It is true that, so far, Tom Cruise’s career has survived his eccentricities – they perhaps have given his white-bread character a certain weird élan. And it is true that we are not yet talking directly about the peculiarities and cockamamie creed of Mormonism, avoiding this subject for reasons of tact and civility.

But I suspect we are thinking about it, constantly.

(Excerpt) Read more at oddonion.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: mormon; mormonism; romney; romneyonreligion; scientology; tomcruise

1 posted on 07/10/2012 2:39:33 PM PDT by Enosh
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To: Enosh

The lds-org denies that Jesus is the Creator, that everything was created THROUGH Him, BY Him and FOR Him.

They deny that Jesus created even the angels out of nothing.

They do NOT teach the truth about Jesus.

2 posted on 07/10/2012 2:45:19 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Enosh
But I suspect we are thinking about it, constantly.

Actually, we're not. Because the premise is so ridiculous, only a shill representing a political "war room" collective could come up with it.

3 posted on 07/10/2012 2:48:05 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Enosh

Let me guess! They both have great hair, and a great smile?


4 posted on 07/10/2012 2:49:59 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Enosh

I wouldn’t have made that connection, but I guess Michael Wolff is going to push it hard from now until election day.


5 posted on 07/10/2012 2:53:34 PM PDT by x
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To: Enosh

The OddOnion?


6 posted on 07/10/2012 2:57:57 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: Enosh

Yes! Vote Obama because his religion is clearly understood by all!!!!!!


7 posted on 07/10/2012 3:02:27 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: fishtank

Neither do the muslims, and we have one in the WH right now.

So, what gives?


8 posted on 07/10/2012 3:11:38 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Enosh

Tom Cruise has magic underware too?


9 posted on 07/10/2012 3:13:24 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Enosh

Tom Cruise has magic underware too?


10 posted on 07/10/2012 3:17:06 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun
Tom Cruise has magic underware too?

See for yourself


11 posted on 07/10/2012 3:20:48 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Enosh

Dear GOD whatever happened to the freedom to practice your religion in our country- regardless of what anyone else thinks of it?

I don’t care much for Mitt Romney- in fact I would rather we had a better candidate who actually cares about our liberty and REAL free enterprise- but we didn’t get that person for our candidate. What we’re stuck with is Mitt Romney. I’ve thought long and hard about this guy and have concluded that absolutely NO ONE could be WORSE for our country than the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

I will vote for Romney. I won’t do it with enthusiasm or conviction or even much hope. But I’ll be damned if I’ll make a “purist” or “principled” vote for a candidate I’d prefer in THIS election when the alternative is to see if our country can endure four more years of this wicked man in the White House.

I could write-in a much more conservative candidate’s name- and I’d feel self-righteous and sanctimonious for a time. But deep down, I’d know better and I’d have to live with my choice. If I did ANYTHING to aid in Obama getting his hands on the few freedoms we have left, I couldn’t look in the mirror.

Will Romney as president make us a freer nation? Will we regain any of the liberties we’ve been robbed of this last 3 plus years? I don’t know- but I SURE as hell know we’ll lose MORE if we keep Barry there..

What Romney’s religious beliefs are all about don’t concern me much- I’ve seen plenty of religious people carry on in ways that I don’t want any part of..

I don’t know much about Mormans- but thanks to Jeremiah Wright and others I’ve learned a LOT about the religion the current president appears to believe in and I’ve seen enough.


12 posted on 07/10/2012 3:22:30 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Enosh

That’s not fair. I think Mitt is insipid and occasionally odd but essentially sane. Tom is bats**t crazy.


13 posted on 07/10/2012 3:25:13 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Enosh
How Tom Cruise is to Scientology what Mitt Romney is to Mormonism...... and Barack Hussein Obama is to Islam.

There fixed it for you!

14 posted on 07/10/2012 3:31:12 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: TexasCajun
Q: How is a Red Roof Inn like a cheap pair of celestial undergarments? A: No ballroom. (Diane Sawyer is on ABC talking about how the globe is getting warmer, but I think she means the northern hemisphere. I knocked boots with her, btw.)
15 posted on 07/10/2012 3:32:35 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: SE Mom
Good post.

This article is nothing but a facetious attempt to get us to commit political suicide.

16 posted on 07/10/2012 3:47:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: RichInOC

You must be one of Tom’s ex-wives.


17 posted on 07/10/2012 3:49:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: SE Mom

“Dear GOD whatever happened to the freedom to practice your religion in our country- regardless of what anyone else thinks of it?”

Oh please. Who is saying that Romney or Cruise can’t practice any religion they want to?

Or is that not what you are really concerned with? Are you really concerned that their kooky religions be excluded from any criticism? If so, then sorry, that is not guaranteed by the 1st Amendment, in fact, it’s quite the opposite: our right to criticize anything, including other peoples’ religions is what is guaranteed.


18 posted on 07/10/2012 3:50:57 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SE Mom
But I’ll be damned if I’ll make a “purist” or “principled” vote for a candidate I’d prefer in THIS election when the alternative is to see if our country can endure four more years of this wicked man in the White House.

I think that we all know that it CANNOT! It may not even survive these next few months, and certainly the holocaust that will ensue during a lame duck era will be one to rival the plagues of Egypt.

19 posted on 07/10/2012 3:55:11 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: editor-surveyor

No, I just follow the news.


20 posted on 07/10/2012 4:04:51 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: fishtank; All; Jim Robinson

L. Ron Hubbard was a flim flam man of the 20th Century when he started Scientology. At least he didn’t remotely claim to be “Christian.” They just debunk persons of their money and souls.

Joseph Smith likewise was the 19th Century’s flim flam man. As bogus as they come. He comitted adultery with other men’s wives in the name of Christianity and by that false Christianity robbed men of their souls. I am certain the cult has picked a few pockets of the naive.

So, it is an excellent comparison. Both were flim flam artists that dabbled in “fiction” passed off as “scripture” or “scripture like” material. The similarities are creepy.

Tom Cruise and Mitt Romney are both poster boys for religious flim flam artists!


21 posted on 07/10/2012 4:09:16 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: fishtank
The lds-org denies that Jesus is the Creator, that everything was created THROUGH Him, BY Him and FOR Him.

Same as Barack Hussein Obama. Spread the TRUTH about Obama's religious beliefs. He has said that Jesus is a "historic figure" but not the only way to "salvation" (if there is any anylife at all).

22 posted on 07/10/2012 4:10:14 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: Sola Veritas
Tom Cruise and Mitt Romney are both poster boys for religious flim flam artists!

These "religious" men suck worse.


23 posted on 07/10/2012 4:13:09 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: editor-surveyor
"... commit political suicide."

Both McCain and Romney fit that bill.

24 posted on 07/10/2012 4:20:07 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet; All

“How Tom Cruise is to Scientology what Mitt Romney is to Mormonism...... and Barack Hussein Obama is to Islam.”

I disagree. Mr. Obama is a terrible person with bad liberal/marxist ways (too numerous to list) and should NEVER be POTUS. And he does “coddle” Islamists. However, although I do not think he is a real Christian, I am certain he is NOT a dedicated Muslim. At worst he leans Muslim. IF he were as dedicated a Muslim as Cruise is a Scientologist and Romney is a Mormon...it would be more apparent.

No one should support Obama. However, not solely because of his possible Islamic beliefs. Romney is a clear cut Mormon Cultist. IF you want Salt Lake City to have control over the White House...then vote for Romney....he will be fulfilling a dream of the flim flamer Joseph Smith. Smith planned to run for POTUS.


25 posted on 07/10/2012 4:22:13 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
I must’ve missed all of the anti-Harry Reid threads opposing him as leader of the Senate because of his Mormonism. No one in the media gave a damn about that liberal Mormon who's in line of ascendancy for the presidency.
26 posted on 07/10/2012 4:27:34 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: Sola Veritas

I also wonder if these same Soros funder “Christian” leaders will sign a letter to the press on Romney’s behalf...

Censoring Questions about Obama’s Religion
Gulag Bound ^ | August 27, 2010 | Cliff Kincaid
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2578664/posts

In a major liberal initiative to curtail discussion of President Obama’s religious identity, over 70 Christian leaders and denominational heads have signed a letter saying that questions about the religious philosophy of the President of the United States should be ignored and suppressed by the major media.

The letter demands that the media “offer no further support or airtime to those who misrepresent and call into question the President’s Christian faith.”


27 posted on 07/10/2012 4:28:51 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: a fool in paradise
I must’ve missed all of the anti-Harry Reid threads opposing him as leader of the Senate because of his Mormonism. No one in the media gave a damn about that liberal Mormon who's in line of ascendancy for the presidency.

You mean, it's an excuse, not a reason?
28 posted on 07/10/2012 4:28:51 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Sola Veritas
Smith planned to run for POTUS.

He not only planned to run for President, he did so.

http://www.lds.org/ensign/2009/02/joseph-smith-campaign-for-president-of-the-united-states

He was killed during the middle of the campaign.

29 posted on 07/10/2012 4:47:01 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: aruanan

There should be equal outrage about Mormonists attaining the highest offices of the land, not just one guy.

The media plays off of Mormon cult talk to wipe up hysteria only when Romney’s name is discussed.

Harry Reid’s Mormonism was never a concern of the Pravda Media.

Barack Obama’s pretend-Christianity was never a concern of the Pravda Media.

There are plenty of reasons to not support Romney for President. Mormonism is low on the scale, especially considering there is a red diaper doper baby raised in an anti-American household and under the wing of a black bigot who had his own fake Christian cult.


30 posted on 07/10/2012 4:50:48 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: a fool in paradise

“I must’ve missed all of the anti-Harry Reid threads opposing him as leader of the Senate because of his Mormonism. No one in the media gave a damn about that liberal Mormon who’s in line of ascendancy for the presidency.”

Presidential line of succession:

1 Vice President of the United States Joe Biden (D)
2 Speaker of the House John Boehner (R)
3 President pro tempore of the Senate Daniel Inouye (D)
4 Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton (D)
5 Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner (I)[3]
6 Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta (D)
7 Attorney General Eric Holder (D)
8 Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar (D)
9 Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack (D)
10 Acting Secretary of Commerce Rebecca Blank (D)
11 Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis (D)
12 Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius (D)
13 Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Shaun Donovan (D)
14 Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood (R)
15 Secretary of Energy Steven Chu (D)
16 Secretary of Education Arne Duncan (D)
17 Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki*
18 Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano (D)

*Eric Shinseki, the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, has no known party affiliation.

president pro tem, is the second-highest-ranking official of the United States Senate.

Harry Reed is nowhere in the line of succession, that position is filled by Daniel Inouye.


31 posted on 07/10/2012 5:48:02 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

I stand corrected. I recall when a Democrat KKK kleagle (recruiter) was 3rd in line and the press was quiet.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/28/daniel-inouye-succeeds-ro_n_627990.html
Daniel Inouye Succeeds Robert Byrd As Senate President Pro-Tempore, Third In Line Of Presidential Succession

The Huffington Post Nick Wing First Posted: 06/28/10 05:35 PM


32 posted on 07/10/2012 6:07:05 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: Sola Veritas
IF you want Salt Lake City to have control over the White House...then vote for Romney....he will be fulfilling a dream of the flim flamer Joseph Smith. Smith planned to run for POTUS.

Shouldn't you be out giving campaign speeches for Obama.

33 posted on 07/10/2012 6:29:08 PM PDT by CW_Conservative
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To: tumblindice
"Diane Sawyer is on ABC talking about how the globe is getting warmer, but I think she means the northern hemisphere. I knocked boots with her, btw"

So did my uncle, during her one semester in law school...

34 posted on 07/10/2012 6:34:01 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: RichInOC

You must be the only person at FR that trusts anything they hear from the MSM.


35 posted on 07/10/2012 6:43:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: Boogieman
Or is that not what you are really concerned with? Are you really concerned that their kooky religions be excluded from any criticism?

Nahhh..I don't mind the criticism. Healthy criticism seems a hallmark of a strong society.

I just was overdue for a rant- I'm fed up with those who would vote against Romney because he's a Morman. That's all.

36 posted on 07/10/2012 7:14:10 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Enosh

I hear tell that Kennedy guy was a papist!


37 posted on 07/10/2012 7:19:23 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: SE Mom

I’m fed up with those who would vote against Romney because he’s a Morman
____________________________________________

There are those of us who were fed up with those who would vote against Newt because he’s a repentant Christian...

Did I see any “fed up” posts from you about that ???


38 posted on 07/10/2012 7:55:43 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: a fool in paradise

“There are plenty of reasons to not support Romney for President.”

Your statement is not true! There are plenty of reasons to support Romney.

What is true, however, is that there are plenty of reasons to not support Obama!


39 posted on 07/10/2012 8:55:15 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: CW_Conservative; All

“Shouldn’t you be out giving campaign speeches for Obama.”

Should’nt you be out on a “Mission Trip” for the Mormon’s?

Of course no one should vote for Obama. No conservative should ever vote for him, his record of wrong is so long to be written in one short message. However, Romney’s record isn’t any better. They are BOTH bad. There is NO lesser of two evils here. Neighter should receive conservative support.


40 posted on 07/11/2012 5:40:41 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Enosh

Okay, first of all we, the American people, cannot elect our representatives based on religion. Our ancestors left religious persecution behind.

We cannot allow our country to be ruled by the religious belief held by our representatives otherwise we’ll become a country like Iran or the likes who are ruled by their religious leaders and not themselves.

As we did with Kennedy we do with all others coming after him, we make sure “his” allegiance is with the Constitution. This will become extremely important should more Muslims be elected to office.


41 posted on 07/11/2012 5:45:10 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Consciousness: That annoying time between naps.)
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To: Sola Veritas

If you don’t vote for Romney, and Obama wins, you WILL find out what BAD really means!

Get off your butt and campaign for/donate to every conservative House and Senate candidate you can find and help us defeat Obama and the LIEberals.

A conservative majority in the House and Senate can force President Romney’s hand in our direction - towards more FReedom and Liberty.

A LIEberal win in 2012 means the end of America!

The LIEberals will, literally, wipe FRom the face of the earth the ONLY great country the world has ever known.

I choose not to live in or bequeath to my heirs and countrymen a Socialist Democrat police state.

If you sit this one out, you will contribute to the demise of America as “the last best hope of man on earth.”


42 posted on 07/11/2012 6:32:59 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Taxman
My desire to see Barack Obama unemployed in 2013 overrides any reasons I may have against Romney or any other GOP Presidential campaign this election.

With third party candidates getting >5% of the vote, it'd be tossing a pebble into a chasm.

Romney (or whoever is the GOP nominee this season) will get my vote.

43 posted on 07/11/2012 9:15:56 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: Taxman

Getting “<5%” not greater than...


44 posted on 07/11/2012 9:17:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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