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Russia sends warships to Syria
Telegraph UK ^ | 7/10/2012 | Tom Parfitt, Moscow and Adrian Blomfield

Posted on 07/10/2012 3:56:27 PM PDT by PapaBear3625

Two destroyers and three amphibious landing vessels carrying marines set sail from Russian bases in the Arctic and the Black Sea, according to Russian military sources.

Russia's defence ministry insisted that the mission was part of a previously scheduled exercise in the Atlantic, Mediterranean and Black Sea and at least one of the vessels in the flotilla has patrolled waters off Syria earlier this year.

But Western diplomats say the purpose of the mission is to show tangible support for Mr Assad, to warn the West against military intervention in Syria and to prepare for the possible evacuation of Russian nationals from the country.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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Doesn't sound like Putin will be willing to let Syria fall to the Sunni Islamists.
1 posted on 07/10/2012 3:56:37 PM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: PapaBear3625

Hat tip, Drudgereport.com


2 posted on 07/10/2012 3:57:52 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Over the last couple of weeks, I’ve seen this reported a number of times. Just how many warships does Russia have either down there or own the way? Must be fifty by now. Must be close to 50,000 troops too.


3 posted on 07/10/2012 4:11:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Russia sends warships to Syria

Call me crazy but I doubt very much this would be happening, or even talked about, if Dubya' were still POTUS.

4 posted on 07/10/2012 4:15:20 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: PapaBear3625

Russia is getting in the middle of something they might regret. I think the Russian people are getting real tired of the ruling class there now.


5 posted on 07/10/2012 4:16:01 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Logical me
Russia is getting in the middle of something they might regret. I think the Russian people are getting real tired of the ruling class there now.

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Yeah, the mirror image of the USA these days.

6 posted on 07/10/2012 4:20:38 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Logical me
I think the Russian people are getting real tired of the ruling class there now.

Yeah, and I'm sure the Russian ruling class cares just as much about it as our ruling class does.

7 posted on 07/10/2012 4:21:50 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: PapaBear3625

World players gather in the Middle East. What could go wrong?


8 posted on 07/10/2012 4:22:13 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: EGPWS

How are they getting there? Through the Med?


9 posted on 07/10/2012 4:25:21 PM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Well, at least we have no need to be nervous during perilous times with the proven commander-in-chief and his accompanying brain trust we have representing us in Washington, D.C.


10 posted on 07/10/2012 4:29:03 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Rebelbase

Exactly.


11 posted on 07/10/2012 4:30:21 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: edcoil

Black Sea fleet through the Dardanelles I imagine.


12 posted on 07/10/2012 4:31:13 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: dfwgator

Obama looks like he is wetting his pants back in the background.


14 posted on 07/10/2012 4:35:13 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: F15Eagle

How long would that take?


15 posted on 07/10/2012 4:37:56 PM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: PapaBear3625

And why wouldn’t he?

Putin has already taken the measure of Obama, and found him lacking.


16 posted on 07/10/2012 4:43:55 PM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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To: edcoil


Rough guess 1500-2000km, 900-1200 miles, a lot of ships can move 20-30mph at speed - so let's say 400-500 miles per day. Not that long. I'm really having to rough those figures. If they truly are already sailing I would guess they'd be there by Friday or Saturday, if even at slower cruise.
17 posted on 07/10/2012 4:47:20 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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18 posted on 07/10/2012 4:49:18 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: PapaBear3625

Push that reset button, Hillary, push it for all you’re worth.


19 posted on 07/10/2012 4:55:32 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Steyn: "One can argue about whose fault it is, but not ... whose responsibility it is: it's his")
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To: EGPWS
You are crazy.

Russia has had a naval base in Syria since 1971. That's 8 US Presidencies.


20 posted on 07/10/2012 4:56:57 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Literals will believe anything.)
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To: dfwgator

If Putin had zippy in a chokehold like that I would say go ahead and make my day.


21 posted on 07/10/2012 4:58:12 PM PDT by bergmeid (Leftism kills babies and economies. Leftism is truly a DEAD END.)
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To: PapaBear3625

22 posted on 07/10/2012 4:58:32 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: PapaBear3625

“Doesn’t sound like Putin will be willing to let Syria fall to the Sunni Islamists. “

Better them than us. At least no more of our boys die because if these people.


23 posted on 07/10/2012 5:02:32 PM PDT by Morgana (This space for rent. Cheap.)
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To: Logical me
I think the Russian people are getting real tired of the ruling class there now.

The communists hate Putin and so do the Euro-socialists in the West.

Putin was just re-elected.

The communists in our own government and in Europe tried to steal the Russian election.

Putin may not be our idea of someone to have as president, but at least he loves his country and has a Russian birth certificate.

You cannot say the same for what we have in the White House.

24 posted on 07/10/2012 5:06:56 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: PapaBear3625

The Chinese are sending troops to Syria as well as the Russians. And, part of the Russian troop allocation includes Kazakhs and Belorussians.


25 posted on 07/10/2012 5:12:11 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Romney barely won in OH with a 12-1 money advantage, he can't beat Obama that way.)
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To: PapaBear3625
As scheduled:

Russia to send marines to Syria

26 posted on 07/10/2012 5:16:28 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Morgana

Tough choice...

Do you side with Putin or with Obama and the European Union?

I’ll take Putin over that bunch any day...


27 posted on 07/10/2012 5:17:54 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: DoughtyOne
This group is the anti-submarine destroyer Smetlivy, plus three landing ships with Russian marines. As of two weeks ago, they had two warships plus a frigate there. One of the warships, the Admiral Chabanenkom, is claimed to correspond to an American Spruce-class destroyer, and Turkey is making accusations that it took part in the shootdown of the Turkish F4. They also have their aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov on station somewhere in the area.

That's a respectable amount of hardware on station.

28 posted on 07/10/2012 5:19:50 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: Thunder90

“The Chinese are sending troops to Syria as well”

Got a source for that? Thanks.

Made me think of (not happening yet)

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+16:12&version=KJV

Revelation 16:12

King James Version (KJV)

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates;
the water thereof was dried up,
that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

Only Turkey can dry up the Euphrates by shutting off the Ataturk Dam.


29 posted on 07/10/2012 5:21:07 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks PapaBear3625.
...to prepare for the possible evacuation of Russian nationals from the country.
Hal Lindsey ping. ;')


30 posted on 07/10/2012 5:31:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NonValueAdded
Hillary, push it for all you’re worth.

Sometimes a figure of speech may fail you.

31 posted on 07/10/2012 5:36:09 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

As long as the US and UK aren’t committing troops, I couldn’t care less the result. I hope we stay out of it.


32 posted on 07/10/2012 5:38:09 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: F15Eagle

I guess we need to assume Turkey gave them permission to navigate the river. I was looking on google earth and just did not see the connection. Thanks for directions.


33 posted on 07/10/2012 5:38:09 PM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: edcoil

I wondered as well but they’ve had to use it before, of course.

My guess is Turkey will assent even though they’re unhappy with Syria. What with the dead pilots from the F-4.


34 posted on 07/10/2012 5:42:33 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Rebelbase

I have a feeling ‘Warships to Syria’ is a smokescreen for protection of another, much larger country.


35 posted on 07/10/2012 5:46:32 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Greysard
unless that's what I meant :)

Actually, I should have said "push it for all it's worth" (essentially the same thing)

36 posted on 07/10/2012 5:53:22 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Steyn: "One can argue about whose fault it is, but not ... whose responsibility it is: it's his")
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To: PapaBear3625
Here is the anti-war viewpoint. This web site was anti-Iraq war back in the day and they have kept their anti-war credentials. Unlike most US progressive liars. This article is good because it slams Hillary exactly how she should be slammed.

Hillary's "Cowboy Diplomacy": There will be hell to pay for NATO's Holy War

37 posted on 07/10/2012 5:58:02 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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38 posted on 07/10/2012 6:00:34 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: dfwgator
I love it when Putin stages events. He hunts tigers, drives race cars, deep sea dives, hunts whales, and has been known to fly fish without a shirt. I don't like to lecture but you need to know that your are posting carefully choreographed Russian government photo operations.
39 posted on 07/10/2012 6:26:13 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: PapaBear3625

On which side?


40 posted on 07/10/2012 6:26:13 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Sawdring

You may very well be right, but it still doesn’t make our CiC look any better.


41 posted on 07/10/2012 6:35:33 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: PapaBear3625
Thank you for the mention. That does seem to be a bit of overkill for the situation.

At any rate, I was curios what the Admiral Kuznetsov looked like in comparison to our carriers. It appears it's a paultry carrier in relation to the carriers in our fleet. None the less, I'm sure it could cause plenty of trouble if it needed to.

I know that lifting deck design isn't something new. The British carriers had that too. Seems like it would be tough on the landing gear, but I guess it's been tried and works just fine.


42 posted on 07/10/2012 6:50:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Didn’t know somebody in Turkey is claiming Russian shootdown of the F-4.

Wow.


43 posted on 07/10/2012 7:01:57 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Tough choice?

No it’s easy. Let someone else kick muzzie a$$ for a change.

Russia has had trouble with muzzie terrorist, as had China. So let both of them do it for a while. The world will be a better place.


44 posted on 07/10/2012 7:02:46 PM PDT by Morgana (This space for rent. Cheap.)
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To: PapaBear3625
All for show. Putin is posturing just like when he poses for his faggy shirtless beefcake photo ops. The Russian ships won't deter any western action, because the West will not act without Russia's permission. Libya was bombed because Russia didn’t veto the no fly zone at the UN. The Russians have already met with the Syrian rebels and has now invited them to have a meeting in Russia. They wouldn't even bother to meet them if they didn't plan to make a deal with them. Putin has cut off Assad's weapons supplies. It's only a matter of time now until the genocidal islamofascist Assad joins his fellow Baath Socialist Saddam in Hell.
45 posted on 07/10/2012 7:15:04 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Rebelbase

What could go wrong?

http://news.yahoo.com/iraq-warns-al-qaida-flowing-syria-185235147.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


46 posted on 07/10/2012 7:23:35 PM PDT by freedommom
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To: Sawdring
I love it when Putin stages events. He hunts tigers, drives race cars, deep sea dives, hunts whales, and has been known to fly fish without a shirt. I don't like to lecture but you need to know that your are posting carefully choreographed Russian government photo operations.

Even with help from the US Ministry of Truth, our bozo can't even photo op right....he throws like a girl and is mostly seen slacking off at a golf course.

Putin at least understands that without intervention, Syria is the next domino open to falling into AQ hands. As much as I hate Russians and ChiComs, I hate muslim terrorist POS even more. And if it is Syrian, Russian, and Chinese boys dying to further the needful slaughter of terrorists......all the better.

0 has consistently come out on the side of the terrorists. The ONE time he should've opened his mouth in support of a resistance, it should've been for the Iranian Green Revolution 2009-2010; and there were crickets. And, the only reason for that was the terrorists already control Iran.

47 posted on 07/10/2012 7:31:54 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (Why do cops have more lenient ROEs when facing us than troops in combat facing suicidal islamists?)
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To: PapaBear3625

Go Big Red!

Err. Or something.


48 posted on 07/10/2012 9:00:57 PM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: EGPWS

If Dubya were Potus, they might try this to test him, and he would respond very forcibly, but then the MSM and all the rabid lefties would make so many angry chimp noises that he’d have to back down just a little bit, and then the Russians would quietly move in.


49 posted on 07/11/2012 1:49:02 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: edcoil
The fastest way for the Russians to get ships off Syria is to use the Black Sea Fleet. The Black Sea Fleet ships transit the Bosporus Strait to the Sea of Marmara through the Dardanelles Strait to the Aegean Sea and then to the Mediterranean. Sending down the Northern Fleet would take too long and require a very long logistics train.
50 posted on 07/11/2012 4:31:25 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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