Skip to comments.Immigration officers doubted Obama birth story (Corsi tip-off to 7/17 Apaio Posse findings?)
Posted on 07/10/2012 8:45:56 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
NEW YORK Immigration documents filed in 1961 cast doubt on whether Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was the presidents biological father and indicate federal officers were prepared to investigate whether the Kenyan was married to the presidents mother, Ann Dunham.
Aside from the image of a long-form birth certificate released by the White House April 27, 2011 a document Sheriff Arpaios law enforcement investigation has found probable cause to believe is a forgery what documentary evidence is there that Barack Obama was the biological father?
In the third sentence of the third paragraph, the Dahlin memo adds the detail that McCabe reported the Kenyan had gotten Dunham pregnant, a fact that would have been consistent with the marriage being legitimate.
Except, Dahlin adds, McCabe reported that the Kenyan and Dunham did not live together and Obama Sr. and Dunham were contemplating giving the baby away to the Salvation Army.
The facts suggest a sham marriage arranged for immigration purposes only: a supposedly married couple who do not live together, a husband with multiple girl friends on the side and a baby neither parent seems determined to raise.
The decision to give away the baby to the Salvation Army after Obama Sr. got Dunham pregnant must have caused the INS to wonder precisely what kind of relationship existed between the two.
The memo indicates Obama Sr. might have been testing the waters to see what impact claiming a U.S. citizen wife and a U.S. citizen child would have on the INS. Officials would question whether he was the natural father or if he was merely the stand-in father, covering up an embarrassing situation.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Is Corsi giving us a preview of the Arpaio Posse presser announcement of findings? I believe he is.
Never forget ... President Obama naturalized as a U.S. Citizen in 1983. His Certificate of Naturalization is on file with USCIS.
This isn't new for anyone who has been following the saga. Similar documents about the INS questioning that relationship have been public for a while, and are mentioned in Corsi's book. Arpaio probably has something other than this.
I can never get past how strikingly dissimilar BO Sr and Jr are.
They look nothing like each other. What would be interesting is to see videos of BO Sr, Frank Marshall Davis and BO Jr.
1st born always share traits with their father.
For instance I walk the same as my father, speak in the same manner, ruminate the same, have the same facial expressions, Sound similar enough that at times my Mom thinks he is calling her on the phone, etc.
I share several traits with my Father and the weird thing?
Wait for it....
I didn’t grow up with him in my life. I saw him occassionally, say every couple of years but those visits were brief.
I also write like my Mom and Father. You can read my writing and it has a distinct flow. I don’t recall my father’s signature but, I can easily replicate my Mom’s signature with out even trying. Then again, she taught me how to read, write at the age of 3 and taught me cursive as I was trying to copy the brand name of the wall heater, which was in cursive.
I’m guessing with 99% certainty BO Jr. shares exactly zero traits of BO Sr and wold love to see moving pictures or even successive pictures of the same setting.
BO Jr probably doesn’t hold his hand the same way as his BO Sr.
BO Jr probably doesn’t hold his head the same either. Doesn’t have the share the same facial expressions.
But Corsi is an Arpaio Posse insider under embargo not to reveal what has been found. I regard this article to be likely to be a preview of the presser coming just one week before the event.
The “high production quality” Youtube ready video of the evidence has likely been prepared. Corsi knows how to run a marketing campaign and I regard this as Corsi’s attempt at framing in advance trying to spin a Posse finding that flagrant Communist Frank Marshall Davis was the dad as being something that was consistent with INS suspicions.
In other words, Corsi is trying to validate the Posse finding using the INS docs.
Yeah he knows, but Corsi gave his word to keep his mouth shut until the Posse releases the evidence.
He was absolutely giddy in an interview last month about what Arpaio's Posse has found in Hawaii about Obama.
Not if Stanley Ann was sent off to Kenya on a Freighter to stay with a certain missionary (a missionary heavily invested in BHO Sr.) for her “confinement” as they used to say.
I don't think Barry and his backers would be fighting to hide the true facts surrounding is birth if they believed he was actually eligible to be POTUS.
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On other threads, I read accusations that you make wild claims without documentary proof.
Produce documentation of this -- or STFU!
I regard Barry's half-brother David (deceased) to be a striking look-a-like. David was a literal brother from another mother but supposedly same father.
Without a DNA test paternity cannot be proved conclusively.
In my observation children in any birth order can look like one parent or the other or a blend or like neither or like a grandparent. It cannot be predicted nor assumed, IMO.
Maybe the Posse can put the paternity issue mostly to rest short of a DNA result. If they managed to get DNA from Barry and his family that actually would be shocking and breathtaking!
Funny - I don’t look a tiny bit like my father, and not much like my mother. I do have traits like my mother - and some BIG character flaws like my father. But neither my brother or I look at all like our dad. I just verified that with my husband. LOL.
I watched that video about obama’s Kenyan Hut living brother today, and I thought there were distinct similarities between him and obama.
I have said for a long time now that I thought that Zero was Malcolm X’s son, and I’m sticking with that story. He looks, speaks and has mannerisms a lot like X’s. Why else would this know nothing, pot smoking, non-performer be selected to be put on the fast track and have his education financed all the way from Occidental (allegedly), to Columbia (supposedly) to Haavard Law? It would answer a lot of questions.
As of yesterday in a KHOW Denver interview with Peter Boyles, Corsi restated that he still thought Obama was born in Kenya.
But then, why would Obama Sr., as the biological father, want to give the baby to the Salvation Army if the marriage with Dunham were legitimate?
My theory: Obama Sr. got her pregnant and then grudgingly married her (or agreed to pretend they were married), thinking that the child was his and he would legitimize the child.
Then, he found out she had been having sex with the old man, Frank Marshall Davis.
When he found this out, I bet he told her that the child may well be Frank Marshall Davis' child and that he regretted marrying her and that she should put the child up for adoption. And he told her to go away and not bother him again.
That would be consistent with the character of Obama Sr. as a cad. He found an "out" and he used it.
For her part, she obviously knew exactly which dates she was screwing Davis and which dates Obama Sr. Maybe based on the dates and the time to term she really believed it was Obama's baby and spent years trying to convince him it was his.
She may have even taken the desperate step to travel to Kenya to try to enlist his family to get him to take her back and acknowledge that the baby was his son.
Or, maybe she left in humiliation back to Seattle and ended up having the baby at a home for troubled mothers in Canada, which would explain the necessity for the birth certificate shenanigans.
Obama Sr. did not intend to stay in the U.S., at least certainly not in 1961. He intended to go back to Kenya and be a leader of his country. That is why he did not try to "use" the marriage to get permanent residence, at least not in 1961. (Maybe he began to think differently in 1964 when he was casting about to be allowed to stay longer.)
From the circumstances, one gets the impression that Obama Sr. did not even like Stanley Ann very much. I think they had a one- or two-nighter and from that point on Obama Sr. tried to minimize his entanglement with her and her baby.
“If Obama Sr. isn’t the father that would throw the citizenship question right out the window.”
It may complicate it, but suppose Malcolm X is his father and we know Malcolm wanted to overthrow the US government and thus can still have his US citizenship revolked.
That then would make Obama an illegal alien as he was born in Kenya to a person who was no longer a US citizen.
I, for one, would have enjoyed seeing the little b@st@rd stuffed into one of those little red kettles.
Hussein a little resembles his half brother George from Kenya.
Was Davis really a commie or was he a plant by the Intelligence Community (FBI or other alphabet-soup agency) to monitor the Chicago underground Red scene? Of some note is the fact Davis’ legitimate son now has an intelligence job at the DEA. My experience is that spookery runs in the family and is often a privilege of family connections. Hence, the IC would go to great lengths to mask Davis’ involvement in this mess. Likewise Obama Jr has to be regarded as a creation of the IC; the perfectly manufactured yes-man with impeccable (that is, unknowable) credentials. Frankly, I have little confidence that Corsi or WND will pursue this obvious line of questioning and suspect they are just another layer of the coverup. Arpaio? One can only hope.
I can see some resemblance there. Can someone please post a side by side of Bozo and Malcolm X. I don’t know how to post pictures. Thanks!
Zactly. It’s weird how we share traits.
I have a friend who had never met my father, spoke to him nor seen a single picture of him.
I took her and my brother to a family reunion 20 years ago and she spotted him from a 100 yards away.
His back was turned to us but she observed we move exactly alike and he had been talking to someone and gesticulated exactly the same way I do.
That’s how close our traits are.
I'm glad to hear that. Corsi would have a hard time walking back the evidence he found from Kenya pointing that way, such as the internal Kenyan Gov’t document stating that Barry's BC was missing from the file where it should have been in Kenya.
Actually it's not that hard to understand if Obama Sr. had found out about Stanley Ann's liaisons with Frank Marshall Davis and was therefore doubtful that the baby was his after all.
He didn't want to admit in writing in a signed document that the baby was his.
On the other hand, when they called him and asked him about it, he discussed it orally, as obviously he was not going to divulge the whole Frank Marshall Davis business with some dude calling from the INS.
Have you talked with them yet? Never heard back from you...
Yes, I said “them”. ;-)
Maybe....maybe not. It would certainly throw both the COLB and BC that have been presented, out the window though.
Had the same thoughts. Obama does strongly resemble his maternal grandfather, of course. Genetics is a strange beast. I look more like my Grandfathers cousin than him. Robert Lincoln looked nothing like Abraham Lincoln while his son, why died at 17, looked like a handsome version of the President and according to Mary Todd, had his grandfathers intelligence and gentle nature.
If Obama Sr. was not the actual father that strengths his claim to citizenship, but, boy, does it explode the myth!
I am totally with you in your thoughts. Have thought that since I started to look into Obama 4 yrs ago
I talked to a Kenyan man tonight. He said that it is tradition for the son to get the blessing of his father for the woman he is to marry. He agreed that both Stanley Ann and Barack Sr went to Kenya to get that blessing. Kenyans believe that Stanley Ann could get on a flight back to the US until she delivered Baby Barack. The common understanding in Kenya is that Baby Barack was born in the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.
I speculate that Stanley Ann and newborn Baby Barack went to Seattle directly from Kenya. The reason for this is that Hussein Onyango Obama did not give his blessing of the marriage. And he told his son not to have any further contact with Stanley Ann. To insure this, he arraigned to have Stanley Ann and Baby Barack fly directly to Seattle, Washington while his son continued his studies in economics at the University of Hawaii.
Malcolm X Obama’s Father?
What an intriguing story Vendome!
Not true. Biological paternity has little bearing on legal paternity. True since Roman times.
Not to mention makes a whole heap of people likely felons.
Pink jumpsuits and baloney sandwiches all around! Saaayy, the taller one looks vaguely familiar. Relative?
Domo for the Ping, BD.
You raise apoint we see rarely. Several years ago a few “bread crumbs” began to appear. I don’t know if they were being scattered as a “Plan B” or whatever, but there are numerous “factoids” that don’t support the “illegal alien, not eligible president, marxist-in-chief” that the libtards actually thought they were voting for (which is why none of this ever bothered any of them and probably why Pubbies “in the know” haven’t been stirring the pot). Zero’s family has probably been so fouled up with the CIA et.al. that his past bears Zero scrutiny. Which brings up an ethical dilemma, really. Does a patriot INSIST on the truth coming out even if it means exposing our security to some level of risk?
Me too. That video of George was the first time that I have ever seen anything at all about the African Obama family that reminded me of Obama, the "American". George's long, lean body; the way he sat; the way he gestured; the jaw line all reminded me of the President.
Unless you think Stanley Ann was not his mom, he would be a US citizen regardless of where he was born and who his father was. Though arguably not NBC.
Those birthers who want to claim Obama wasn't his "real" father just damage their own case, which is based on Pop not being a US citizen. If Pop is somebody else, there's a very good chance he was a citizen.
If Mom was enough of a party girl, there's a good chance she would not know who the bio-dad was, though he was pretty clearly of African ancestry and there weren't a whole bunch of those in HI at the time. Or now, FTM.
There is no provision for a NBC like X having his citizenship revoked. He can renounce his citizenship, but nobody can revoke it, no matter what the person does.
There is no provision for a NBC like X having his citizenship revoked. He can renounce his citizenship, but nobody can revoke it, no matter what the person does.
Obama would have had to naturalize after 1971.
Without a doubt he WAS a Indonesia citizen.
His mother became a Indonesia citizen after her marriage to Lolo.
See Article 7 here:
“...the foreign woman who marries a citizen of the Republic of Indonesia also acquires the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia one year after the marriage has been contracted...”
Without a doubt - when in Indonesia - this family was 100% Indonesian. How the US would have viewed SAD and baby Obama from a US citizenship perspective may be better answered by others.
But between March 1966 and 1971 this family was Indonesian.
“Likewise Obama Jr has to be regarded as a creation of the IC”
Obama is a walking crime spree. A walking ANTI-AMERICAN crime spree.
Everything he has done has been to DESTROY America and the Constitution.
He’s no spook. If he’s a spook he’s working for some KGB/Islamic/Marxist cabal not America.
No it wouldn’t.
The divorce court ruled that BO SR. was the father at time of birth.
Doesn’t make a difference who bio father is.
It's a good bet that's what Zippo is hiding with his school records. He said he was a foreign student. He probably thought he was just pulling a fast one over on the school, but in reality he renounced his citizenship.
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