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Gay-rights backers woo young conservative Republicans
Washington Times ^ | July 10 2012 | Cheryl Wetzstein

Posted on 07/11/2012 9:30:52 AM PDT by scottjewell

Gay-rights supporters are openly rallying sympathizers who until now may have been content to stay in the closet - young conservative Republicans.

“Freedom and family are core conservative values,” said conservative gay activist Margaret Hoover, a leader of a new campaign called Young Conservatives for the Freedom to Marry.

“We have a historic opportunity to reaffirm these.. values by supporting the fundamental freedom to marry... ” ...

Other members of Young Conservatives for the Freedom to Marry leadership... said they expect their new group to inspire other young conservatives “to ... “accelerate” the acceptance of same-sex marriage.

However, the leader of a national organization fighting to preserve one-man, one-woman marriage said there is no evidence of grass-roots support for gay marriage among conservatives.

“It’s not conservative to want to undermine marriage,” said Brian Brown, president of the National Organization for Marriage.

“One of the core pillars of conservatism is protecting and uplifting marriage as the union of a man and a woman” - and all major conservative thinkers - “the fountainhead of American conservatism” - were agreed on that, he said. “It doesn’t represent the grass roots, I can tell you that.”

The new campaign is part of Freedom to Marry, an organization founded in 2003 by gay activist and attorney Evan Wolfson ...

...youth have indeed been led to accept, unquestioned, certain “liberal paradigms” about homosexuality by the media, entertainment and in academia, Peter Sprigg, senior fellow for policy studies at the Family Research Council, said...

But “it’s an oxymoron to say that you’re a conservative for same-sex marriage,” said Mr. Sprigg. People “may be conservative on other issues, but changing the definition of marriage to allow same-sex couples to marry is not conservative by any possible definition of the word. That’s a radical redefinition of marriage and family.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gaystapotactics; generationx; generationy; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; millenials; samesexmarriage; thoughtcrime
Worth repeating from the piece:

“it’s an oxymoron to say that you’re a conservative for same-sex marriage,” said Mr. Sprigg. People “may be conservative on other issues, but changing the definition of marriage to allow same-sex couples to marry is not conservative by any possible definition of the word. That’s a radical redefinition of marriage and family.”

There is no way to divorce social values from the greater conservatism of the GOP, regardless of what some RINOs may think, or what they imagine some libertarian ideology has showed them.

1 posted on 07/11/2012 9:31:02 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell
nuff said
2 posted on 07/11/2012 9:36:26 AM PDT by THE_RAIDER
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To: scottjewell

This is a dangerous group. My brother got involved with them in college and, after 22 years of living a VERY heterosexual life, he “realized he is ‘bisexual’”, developed the gay, girly accent in his speech, and now lives with an even more flamboyantly gay male.


3 posted on 07/11/2012 9:38:19 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: scottjewell

The homosexual agenda has always been, and always will be, about unrestricted access to young flesh.


4 posted on 07/11/2012 9:42:38 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: scottjewell

I am 25 and I see more younger people being drawn into the gay marriage stuff. It’s an easy debate IMO. Just ask them where they draw the line. Pedophilia? Incest?

And I agree with the previous poster. You can’t be a conservative and be for gay marriage.


5 posted on 07/11/2012 9:42:38 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: scottjewell

I blame this on parents who haven’t taken the time to study our culture, and understand the war that is being waged against it. They’ve entrusted their children to pop culture. More than that, half the parents, even those calling themselves conservatives, have watered their intelligence down with pop culture.


6 posted on 07/11/2012 9:43:04 AM PDT by pallis
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To: wolfman23601

Unfortunately, anyone who has ever seen episodes of “Savage U” knows that your brother’s experience is the fate of hundreds of thousands of college students.


7 posted on 07/11/2012 9:43:56 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

The title has me envisioning Obama in drag waving a handkerchief at young men.


8 posted on 07/11/2012 9:46:09 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: scottjewell

It all happened so quickly. I graduated from college not that long ago, 2001, and there was no gay presence there... and it was a liberal school. Now they are everywhere.


9 posted on 07/11/2012 9:47:22 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: scottjewell; Revolting cat!
The new campaign is part of Freedom to Marry, an organization founded in 2003 by gay activist and attorney Evan Wolfson ...

Freedom to Mary?


10 posted on 07/11/2012 9:49:37 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: scottjewell
This antic is just one more example of the spreading contagion from what we describe as "Cloud Dancing." The essential aspects of any subject are simply ignored in argument. (See Spreading Contagion.

Any discussion of the subject of marriage, which simply ignores that it is functionally the way society sanctifies the procreational process & incorporates it into multi-generational family and societal purpose, is idiotic. The concept of marriage between people of the same sex is no more rational than the concept of marriage with a rock or bucket of water.

In Shakespeare's "Taming of the Shrew," calling the sun the moon, did not make it such; nor did anyone in the audience imagine that it did. This ongoing discussion in the media says a great deal about where this generation in the West ranks historically.

William Flax

11 posted on 07/11/2012 9:51:52 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: wolfman23601

“This is a dangerous group. My brother got involved with them in college and, after 22 years of living a VERY heterosexual life, he “realized he is ‘bisexual’”, developed the gay, girly accent in his speech, and now lives with an even more flamboyantly gay male.”

I am sorry for your family tragedy and will pray for your brother.

Perhaps even more tragic, your brother illustrates a story that may surprise many who would think that being involved with the Young Conservatives in college would foster a wholesome lifestyle of patriotism and conservative American values, but instead forced him down that dark path.

Hopefully, others can learn from your brother’s mistake and understand that even in the most wholesome environments, like the Young Conservatives, there will be those who will attempt to convert our young innocent children to homosexuality.


12 posted on 07/11/2012 9:53:05 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: scottjewell

Homos “woo” any young person of their own sex, Left or Right all they want is to either rape or seduce young heterosexuals because the whole point of being a homosexual or lesbian is to have sex with heterosexuals of the sex as your own—which means if they do have sex with you they are not heterosexuals...ergo the mental illness because one cannot possibly be a female man and have sex with a man nor can one be a manly man and have sex with a man...you are still just a biological freak and sex change surgery only makes you a stupid and mutilated biological freak...this is why homosexuals who do not choose curative psychological therapy often flash their silly asses and try to make life miserable for those who have accepted with happy, healthy, wholesome and realistic logic their genetically predetermined sex.


13 posted on 07/11/2012 9:56:31 AM PDT by Happy Rain (With one horribly sick and wrong ruling, Traitor Roberts cursed America with a Fascist IRS.)
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To: scottjewell

Homos “woo” any young person of their own sex, Left or Right. All they want is to either rape or seduce young heterosexuals because the whole point of being a homosexual or lesbian is to have sex with heterosexuals of the sex as your own—which means if they do have sex with you they are not heterosexuals...ergo the mental illness because one cannot possibly be a female man and have sex with a man nor can one be a manly man and have sex with a man...you are still just a biological freak and sex change surgery only makes you a stupid and mutilated biological freak...this is why homosexuals who do not choose curative psychological therapy often flash their silly asses and try to make life miserable for those who have accepted with happy, healthy, wholesome and realistic logic their genetically predetermined sex.


14 posted on 07/11/2012 9:57:32 AM PDT by Happy Rain (With one horribly sick and wrong ruling, Traitor Roberts cursed America with a Fascist IRS.)
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To: scottjewell

What “Right” in the Constitution is dependent on what a Citizen does in the bedroom with another consenting adult??


15 posted on 07/11/2012 9:58:00 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo

According to some in the ‘Yay for Gay/Promo for Homo” crowd, all of it.
Why, it’s racist to oppose them!
[Serious, they’ve tried that track.]

They’ve also claimed it all to be good clean all american bring your kids and family fun.
Just don’t google search with safe search off the words “Folsom Street Fair”.

Yet, if heteros did those things in public, we’d be arrested for public indecency at the least.


16 posted on 07/11/2012 10:06:39 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: scottjewell

There is no “same-sex marriage.” Marriage is God’s plan for a man and a woman to be united in “one flesh.” Homosexuals can get a piece of paper from the state, or even find a fallen “church” to pronounce them “married,” but God is not involved in their arrangement.


17 posted on 07/11/2012 10:09:53 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: DTogo
What “Right” in the Constitution is dependent on what a Citizen does in the bedroom with another consenting adult?

Ask the Boy Scouts of America whose 1st Amendment right to free association has been trashed in numerous venues.

Come back in five years and tell us what's happened to the first Amendment free exercise rights of churches which don't recognize or perform "gay marriages."

Ask the photographer, or the renters, or the restauranteurs, or the many hotel managers who have religious objections to providing services to gay couples who've been fined or forced to undergo "reeducation" what the compelling state interest is in promoting homosexuality that overrides their free exercise rights.

18 posted on 07/11/2012 10:53:13 AM PDT by FredZarguna (the Government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it.)
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To: scottjewell

“Young Conservatives for the Freedom to Marry”
Just another group of perverted homosexuals. Pushing their disgusting lifestyle on America!


19 posted on 07/11/2012 11:03:09 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: Old Sarge

The death whimpers of the GOP continue.


20 posted on 07/11/2012 11:21:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: scottjewell
They seem pretty certain to get Romneycare as the GOP nominee, the man who instituted gay marriage in Massachusetts after it was rejected by both the legislature and the judiciary. Also the man who promised the homosexuals on television that he would sign a bill forcing the boy scouts to accept gay scoutmasters if they could get it to his desk.
21 posted on 07/11/2012 11:22:26 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

Yes, it is a shock that after Obama, the GOP has a chance for change, and they run someone like Romney.


22 posted on 07/11/2012 11:46:30 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

“it’s an oxymoron to say that you’re a conservative for same-sex marriage,”

Cannot be said enough. Fiscal conservatism alone is not enough.


23 posted on 07/11/2012 11:59:28 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: GenXteacher

Fully agreed!


24 posted on 07/11/2012 12:11:49 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN

I am respectful, generally of Republicans, but MARGARET HOOVER is an utter piece of garbage; and her husband, John Avlon, another ultra RINO, is not much better.

Shame, because her great grandpa was a great American, who would not have stood for this kind of nonsense:

President Herbert Hoover!


25 posted on 07/11/2012 1:16:09 PM PDT by NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN ('he who creates something worthwhile, never dies.'')
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To: scottjewell

“We have a historic opportunity to reaffirm these.. values by supporting the fundamental freedom to marry...

there is no fundamental freedom to marry.
Never has been.
Marriage has always been controlled by law and regulation.
You can not marry your sister, you can not marry a child, you can not marry a dog, etc..
You have the right along with every other human being to marry a human being of proper age of the opposite sex. Equal rights.
Deal with it.....


26 posted on 07/11/2012 2:07:04 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New Amerie and thrive it mustcan Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Beautifully expressed; thank you; no gay per...no homosexual person has EVER been prohibited from marrying a member of the opposite sex; EVER!


27 posted on 07/11/2012 3:06:16 PM PDT by NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN ('he who creates something worthwhile, never dies.'')
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