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Wayne LaPierre to UN: Americans Will Never Surrender the Second Amendment
Townhall.com ^ | July 11, 2012 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 07/11/2012 5:31:27 PM PDT by Kaslin

Today NRA Vice President Wayne LaPierre addressed the United Nations as the debate about the Arms Trade Treaty, or the "Small Arms Treaty," continues in New York City. The treaty is written to make it seem as though only arms transferred by governments will be affected but the details of the language seem to show the treaty applies to civilian firearms. The treaty has been classified as an international effort to attack the Second Amendment in the United States Constitution.

"I am hear to announce the NRA's strong opposition to anti-freedom policies that disregard American citizens' right to self defense. No foreign entity has jurisdiction over the freedoms our Founding Fathers guaranteed to us."

Wayne LaPierre Fights for the Second Amendment Before the United Nations


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Front Page News
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1 posted on 07/11/2012 5:31:37 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Molon Labe

2 posted on 07/11/2012 5:37:30 PM PDT by RC one (this space intentionally left blank)
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To: Kaslin
Any Arms Trade Treaty must be adopted by two-thirds of the U.S. Senate, which has 100 members.

Bull$hit, and he knows it. It takes 2/3 of "THE SENATORS PRESENT" which can legally be as few as 34, and if he thinks Harry Reid won't slam this monster through in the dark of night he should be fired, right now.

Let there be no confusion. Any treaty that includes civilian firearms ownership in its scope will be met with the NRA’s greatest force of opposition.

Those are weasel words Mr. LaPierre, because this can be read two ways. What about MILITARY firearms ownership: assault rifles or .50 caliber?

3 posted on 07/11/2012 5:50:15 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: RC one
"No foreign entity has jurisdiction over the freedoms our Founding Fathers guaranteed to us."

Not according to certain FReepers who consider themselves Constitutional "scholars"...

4 posted on 07/11/2012 5:59:01 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: Old Sarge
All I can say is they are going to need to bring a lunch with 'em. This may take a while and get messy.

/johnny

5 posted on 07/11/2012 6:03:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Good evening.

All I can say is they are going to need to bring a lunch with 'em. This may take a while and get messy.

Body bags would keep the fly population in check.

5.56mm

6 posted on 07/11/2012 6:06:10 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Carry_Okie

>> slam this monster through in the dark of night

Can the Senate schedule a vote secretly or without fair notice to the entire Senate body?

It would seem to me that subverting the process of representation especially at the expense of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, our Liberty, and Sovereignty would be a reckless maneuver.


7 posted on 07/11/2012 6:06:11 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Kaslin

If the UN. ...er...make that ANY UN law tries to govern me, consider me a lawbreaker.

Any UN dork ...or any other trying to enforce any UN law on my property well be considered a target.


8 posted on 07/11/2012 6:16:23 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Gene Eric
One of these days a really stupid Democrat politician is going to do something so egregious that it will provoke enough people to violence.

Pushing this "treaty" thru in the middle of the night with a bare minimum of hand picked Senators would probably do it. I don't think that even Dingy Harry would have the balls to attempt it.....

...but maybe not...I am wrong frequently about political outrages....

9 posted on 07/11/2012 6:20:15 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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To: Kaslin
The treaty has been classified as an international effort to attack the Second Amendment in the United States Constitution.

The Second Ammendment does not grant the right to bear arms. It merely reminds the Federal government that they are prohibited from messing around with a "Natural Right". Repealing any of the Bill of Rights would have no affect on the existance of those rights. It would only cause the Second American Civil War.

10 posted on 07/11/2012 6:34:34 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Carry_Okie

Any Senators who signed this treaty should be hunted down and branded with a T for Traitor on their faces. And that would be just for starters.


11 posted on 07/11/2012 6:37:33 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin
Americans Will Never Surrender the Second Amendment but our "leaders" might. At least they will try. However, I firmly believe that a treaty cannot amend the Constitution and if a treaty does not pass Constitutional muster, it is null and void. One might even go as far as to say that signing such a treaty would be a violation of the oath of office and therefore an Impeachable offense.
12 posted on 07/11/2012 6:38:12 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Steyn: "One can argue about whose fault it is, but not ... whose responsibility it is: it's his")
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To: Carry_Okie

Just askin’. How will this treaty get enforced? There are no UN police nor are there any UN gun registries.


13 posted on 07/11/2012 6:40:23 PM PDT by cpa4you (CPA4YOU)
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To: RC one

Any “treaty” would have to get approval of Congress, yes? I do not see that happening. Ever. Cetainly not 4 months from an election.

Try and bring it.


14 posted on 07/11/2012 6:41:43 PM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: SueRae

the prevailing fear is an attempt to circumvent the constitutional ratification requirement by having a midnight vote with hand selected quorum of senators instead of by a full senate in full view of the American people. Not sure if there’s a precedent for such a thing, NAFTA maybe.


15 posted on 07/11/2012 6:49:25 PM PDT by RC one (this space intentionally left blank)
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To: Carry_Okie

There are millions of AR15s in this country. Uh, my wife has an intimate relationship an owner.

They are for the most part semi-auto civilian versions of the M16. You can bet they are very high on the gun grabber list of priorities as *assault* rifles.

I do not care for Romney, but I remind everyone here that Moochelle and Zero have made it clear that if he gets another 4 years, they *are* coming hard and fast for the guns. If that happens it will be time for a lot of big talking gun owners to put up or be shut up.


16 posted on 07/11/2012 7:02:38 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Trust me, full auto is over rated.


17 posted on 07/11/2012 7:22:36 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“they *are* coming hard and fast for the guns.”

Freedom in the country began with a gun grab on 4/19/1775, and pretty much ended with one on 4/19/93.

The Going On Progressive party has been an epic failure in maintaining the rule of law and freedom in this land.

Imagine what would happen if the KKK were caught on video intimidating black voters, or put a bounty on a black man who killed a “white” man in self defense.

BP Agent Brian Terry was forced to confront a criminal with a bean bag gun by the government that armed his opponent with a semi-auto AKM rifle.

Sadly, the soap box and ballot box may no longer sufficient to defeat tyranny in this land. I pray I’m wrong, but one cannot ignore the facts.

Apathy in the face of evil destroyed Germany before it was rebuilt into a respectable nation.


18 posted on 07/11/2012 7:31:48 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Kaslin

Its not the Americans that will surrender the 2nd Amendment — it may be POTUS and Congress and they not necessarily represent the American people.


19 posted on 07/11/2012 7:41:05 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: hadaclueonce
Trust me, full auto is over rated.

I completely agree. Way over rated. For a number of reasons.

It isn't like TV. A 30 round magazine doesn't last for 10 minutes of continuous fire. / snigger What is the rate of fire on auto? And how many times can you be shot while changing mags for the 4th time in 2 minutes?

20 posted on 07/11/2012 7:42:32 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Carry_Okie
I disagree. LaPierre is a dumbass. He, and the NRA leadership just don't get it! Take his other dumbass statement for example.

No foreign entity has jurisdiction over the freedoms our Founding Fathers guaranteed to us."

The founding fathers didn't guarantee anything. They recognized pre-existing rights that came from GOD.

21 posted on 07/11/2012 7:47:31 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: Kaslin

The Zero regime does whatever it wants at whim, they have no shame hiding Fast and Furious scandal, so they’ll surely sign this. Yes, do it. Be that stupid. Anyone who puts their name on it voting ‘yea’ will be documented for future exploits in the name of freedom. A fight is coming regardless, so if now is the time, bring it.


22 posted on 07/11/2012 7:49:26 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: Kaslin
I am hear to announce the NRA's strong opposition to anti-freedom policies...........

I hered that!

23 posted on 07/11/2012 8:00:16 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: cpa4you
Just askin’. How will this treaty get enforced? There are no UN police nor are there any UN gun registries.

Why don't you ask that of the victims of the Endangered Species Act who have seen Federal goons in bullet proof vests take their land?

The ESA derives its authority by treaty.

24 posted on 07/11/2012 9:48:40 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: Carry_Okie
Those are weasel words Mr. LaPierre, because this can be read two ways. What about MILITARY firearms ownership: assault rifles or .50 caliber?

I think LaPierre is okay ..... it's clear to me he intended it to mean "civilian ownership" of firearms, not ownership of civilian firearms, which btw are damn near impossible to define, and nobody on either side of the debate has even tried. Such anti-gun legislation as has been tried on by Canada, the UK, Australia, and the Clinton Regime has always had to address specific characteristics of firearms they deem objectionable, or list models they deem objectionable; because there is no generally understood characteristic of a "civilian" firearm.

25 posted on 07/12/2012 2:49:35 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Carry_Okie
Why don't you ask that of the victims of the Endangered Species Act who have seen Federal goons in bullet proof vests take their land?

The Rehnquist Court bitch-slapped Oregon for pulling that with a man's coastal property that he wanted to build on. They threw "environmental" regulations on him that forbade his use of the property, he sued, and SCOTUS crushed the Green goons.

The ESA derives its authority by treaty.

No treaty can strip us of the BoR or repeal an article or clause of the Constitution. That's where the bien-pensant a-holes get off the bus.

26 posted on 07/12/2012 2:52:58 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: 353FMG
Its not the Americans that will surrender the 2nd Amendment — it may be POTUS and Congress and they not necessarily represent the American people.

They can't do that -- it's above their pay grade, and the People know it, and they know the People know it.

See my last.

They would not try that without a full-on coup d'etat against the People and an attempt to suspend the Constitution. And that would be a capital offense, and they know it. They would hang in chains, on fire.

27 posted on 07/12/2012 2:55:56 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: M Kehoe
Maybe we should ask them to bring their own embalming fluid and tronchars. We'd probably run out quickly.
28 posted on 07/12/2012 3:00:51 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: cpa4you

“There are no UN police nor are there any UN gun registries.”

Plenty of SWAT geared “dog killers” out there. Lots of doors being kicked in based upon a fraudulent phone call. Hordes of cops who don’t care what the public thinks since a badge & a gun trumps public opinion every time.


29 posted on 07/12/2012 5:00:34 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!")
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To: lentulusgracchus
Good morning. Help me here: "tronchars." Cutting tools?

5.56mm

30 posted on 07/12/2012 6:01:27 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: lentulusgracchus
The Rehnquist Court bitch-slapped Oregon for pulling that with a man's coastal property that he wanted to build on. They threw "environmental" regulations on him that forbade his use of the property, he sued, and SCOTUS crushed the Green goons.

Sir, that doesn't stop them. They know that your Oregon hero spent millions and a decade or so to win his case. They'll just do it again on another pretext. "Sue us."

No treaty can strip us of the BoR or repeal an article or clause of the Constitution.

With all due respect (and in general, I do respect your posts), you don't know what you're talking about here. Treaties on the books now so wildly exceed Constitutionally enumerated powers that this point isn't even worth entertaining.

31 posted on 07/12/2012 6:16:30 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: lentulusgracchus
I think LaPierre is okay ...

And I bet you also think that the NRA lawyers didn't go over that speech to the United Nations? Please.

it's clear to me he intended it to mean "civilian ownership" of firearms, not ownership of civilian firearms,

It's clear that that's what you would prefer to believe he means, which is why it's there. That's why I wrote "weasel words."

Such anti-gun legislation as has been tried on by Canada, the UK, Australia, and the Clinton Regime has always had to address specific characteristics of firearms they deem objectionable, or list models they deem objectionable; because there is no generally understood characteristic of a "civilian" firearm.

Oh, and I'll bet you think that had no effect at all on the efficacy of the weapons for sale.

If you think the Brady bill wasn't gun owner registration, I've got news for you. If you really believe that the Federal government doesn't have every name on those lists somewhere... well you're a lot more callow than I thought you were. I don't trust the NRA.

32 posted on 07/12/2012 6:23:18 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: B.O. Plenty
If the Senate where to do that “in the middle of the night” and then the people take exception and hangs or shoots most of those who voted yes, would that negate that vote?
33 posted on 07/12/2012 6:47:19 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse (RNC) will learn to sing)
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To: hadaclueonce

Trust me, full auto is over rated.


I’ve never fired a real rifle, but I do remember that I learned that lesson in a videos game years ago(delta force). I routinely went with single fire for better control. Far better results. Full fun auto isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.


34 posted on 07/12/2012 6:59:16 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: M Kehoe
Good morning. Help me here: "tronchars." Cutting tools?

Spelling problem; it's actually "trocar", from Froggish " a sharp-pointed instrument equipped with a cannula, used to puncture the wall of a body cavity and withdraw fluid." Very often used in embalming.


35 posted on 07/12/2012 7:29:05 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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To: Mycroft Holmes
Good morning.

The "n" had me confused. Thank you.

5.56mm

36 posted on 07/12/2012 7:48:23 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: cpa4you

If passed American LEO’s at all levels will enforce it and this will be the point where American law enforcement at all levels would have to decide are they going to disobey orders or as the nazi underlings at Nuremburg all pleaded, “I was just following orders and doing my job...”.


37 posted on 07/12/2012 7:52:19 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: hadaclueonce; ChildOfThe60s

“Trust me, full auto is over rated.”

Perhaps for a 50 cal machine gun with an unlimited supply of full ammo belts full auto has a place in mowing down a hoard of onslaughting zombies. But for most of us, semi-auto makes each round count, conserving ammo, and is sufficient for most any potential encounter.

As for weapons, an AR-15 and an AK-47 would be nice armament additions to round out an otherwise sound collection.


38 posted on 07/12/2012 8:09:10 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Carry_Okie

“I don’t trust the NRA.”

Agreed, and I do not trust the info that FFL dealers have to collect, either...also a hesitation I have with CCW...either likely paint a GPS target on your home.


39 posted on 07/12/2012 8:19:20 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: M Kehoe

Lime is cheaper.


40 posted on 07/12/2012 10:11:23 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: sarge83

Hopefully they won’t. They are outnumbered. Everyone will just lay low and hide their guns.


41 posted on 07/12/2012 11:04:58 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
also a hesitation I have with CCW...either likely paint a GPS target on your home.

I agree, I have a CCDW, my daughter asked if we could get them together as a present for her birthday.

I have come to the realization that when it gets to the point where they actually come after us CCDW people, they are coming after all of us and I might as well have it out then and go down sooner, because I will surely go down later.

Unless the average person in this country realizes that they are going to come after us piecemeal, starting with those who will generate the least amount of protesting, then it will progress exactly has it always has done with despots, on to all those that are foolish to think they will be excluded from the pogroms. One day they will wake up and discover they are the last to be in the crosshairs and there will be no one to defend them.

42 posted on 07/12/2012 4:40:41 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: W. W. SMITH
Thats an interesting question.

I would suspect that if something like that happened, the "point of no return" would be reached, would it not?...CWII would be on. It would be fight or die.

The outcome of the fight would decide whether the vote was valid or not.

...

43 posted on 07/12/2012 6:13:41 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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To: Carry_Okie
Oh, and I'll bet you think that had no effect at all on the efficacy of the weapons for sale.

No need to get sarcastic, FRiend. I guess I'm just not bitter enough about the NRA to suit you. I disagree with some things they've done in the past, but I'm not looking for a screw job in the bottom of every Cracker Jack box, either.

I looked at it and it looked like a fairly straightforward statement of principles against a broad-front attack on our rights by the international Lords-Ordainer wannabe's. I've been following them for over 10 years and know the UN cabalists have been on this since the "Poppy" Bush Administration, with Japan and the UK leading, and I know the UN told the NRA to go eff off over a dozen years ago with that patronizing crack about "time to apply lessons learnt" -- which btw tells you the speaker was a gun-hating Brit, FWIW. Only the Brits use (correctly) "learnt" as a participial adjective rather than American usage, "learned".

So yeah, I see them coming, and yes, the NRA has been fighting these guys since they erected their "no-guns" UN treehouse with our money, and I see no reason to start looking for an NRA backstab job now on the identical issues, howbeit they really disappointed a couple of years ago by refusing to return support for other groups fighting other gross assaults on the BoR.

44 posted on 07/12/2012 9:59:57 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Carry_Okie
Treaties on the books now so wildly exceed Constitutionally enumerated powers that this point isn't even worth entertaining.

Time for a Republican POTUS and his Republican AG to start taking some of these treaties to SCOTUS and breaking them like the dry sticks that they are. And if SCOTUS won't do it -- well, there's the repealer and demarche route, and Russia and that Murderers' Row of Habitual Rights-Offending States, however self-constituted, can k.m.a.

45 posted on 07/12/2012 10:05:36 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
Time for a Republican POTUS and his Republican AG to start taking some of these treaties to SCOTUS and breaking them like the dry sticks that they are.

It's never been done. Not one.

46 posted on 07/12/2012 10:08:46 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: lentulusgracchus
I disagree with some things they've done in the past, but I'm not looking for a screw job in the bottom of every Cracker Jack box, either.

If you understood the historic origins and scope of the treaty power in the Constitution, you would be.

I looked at it and it looked like a fairly straightforward statement of principles against a broad-front attack on our rights by the international Lords-Ordainer wannabe's.

Sad experience has taught me otherwise.

47 posted on 07/12/2012 10:13:35 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: Mycroft Holmes; M Kehoe
Thank you with the spelling help, and the illustrations.

From Webster online:

Definition of TROCAR :
a sharp-pointed surgical instrument fitted with a cannula and used especially to insert the cannula into a body cavity as a drainage outlet

Variants of TROCAR
tro·car also tro·char \ˈtrō-ˌkär\
Origin of TROCAR
French trocart, alteration of trois-quart from trois three + carre edge

First Known Use: circa 1706

My only source was an autopsy report in my possession. Thanks for the correction.

48 posted on 07/12/2012 10:24:44 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Carry_Okie
It's never been done. Not one.

People said that about a lot of things in American politics. There's a time for everything, and the Alinskyites don't get to say what those times will be.

49 posted on 07/12/2012 10:29:37 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Carry_Okie
[Me] I disagree with some things they've done in the past, but I'm not looking for a screw job in the bottom of every Cracker Jack box, either.

If you understood the historic origins and scope of the treaty power in the Constitution, you would be.

I think I have your drift, and yes, Fedgov has been coloring outside the lines since Webster floated the first iteration of the "Mystical Union" crapola and John Quincy Adams floated the idea of pushing the South into secession, shouting "insurrection", and then using the succeeding military confrontation to "reorganize" the Southern States politically. Which, btw, is the best-kept secret in Civil War history; I didn't know anything about that, until people began trading comments on a passage in the new biography of Adams. Since the Civil War, Fedgov has "gone ape" and needs to be trimmed off and our constitutional damage redressed.

But the NRA isn't the problem here -- it's people like the Pew Trusts, the other assorted Prog-driven NGO's, and the international movable-feast class.

50 posted on 07/12/2012 10:37:08 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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