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In Sleepy Minnesota Suburbs, Church Ladies Launch Gay Marriage Crusade
The Atlantic ^ | July 12 2012 | Tayla Minsberg

Posted on 07/12/2012 4:40:41 AM PDT by scottjewell

The southwest Minneapolis suburbs of Minnetonka and Eden Prairie bring to mind Garrison Keillor's tales from Lake Wobegon: They're lined with well-maintained homes and tree-lined roundabouts, and home to residents of largely German and Scandinavian ancestry. But the ladies of these towns have quietly begun a revolt -- one fought with rainbow flags and a Minnesota nice attitude.

The women, mostly in their 40s and 50s, come from different political parties, religious views, and backgrounds, but they've united to fight what many of them call an embarrassment to Minnesota: a proposed constitutional ban on gay marriage that will appear on the ballot this November. Minnesota is the 31st state to include such a measure on a ballot, despite a strong LGBT community in Minneapolis, which was named the "gayest city in America" by Advocate Magazine in January 2011.

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Guess a lot of Christians now feel they have a chance to be part of a brave "civil rights" struggle. Sentimental folly has won the day, just as the gays hoped it would. I hope the ban goes through in November.
1 posted on 07/12/2012 4:40:54 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

The atlantic is as interesting to read as the Minneapolis phone book.


2 posted on 07/12/2012 4:51:28 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: scottjewell
The women, mostly in their 40s and 50s, come from different political parties, religious views, and backgrounds . . .

I'm sure the do. Some of them are Democrats, some of them are Socialist Worker's Party, some of them are Greens. Some of them are ELCA, some are CINO's and some are atheists. Some of them are high school teachers and some are lawyers.

Most of them went along with the ELCA when they needed to sponsor black Somali Muslims to colonize America, but were nowhere to be found when black Darfur Christians needed help.

3 posted on 07/12/2012 4:56:26 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: scottjewell

Occasionally one is prompted to wonder what might be the average IQ of the common or garden variety American suburb.


4 posted on 07/12/2012 4:58:25 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: scottjewell

As a lot of so called Christians voted for Barack Hussein for the Presidency.If my wife were to campaign for the fraud and anti-Christian State recognition or elevation of fornication,adultery, and prostitution to the status of marriage equality-— I would consider such an annulment of the marriage vow. Until someone more wise than I can show me in the Sacred texts—or in the earlier law in America where this blasphemy ought be sanctioned by any State I will continue to oppose the dilution of “marriage”.If two people of the same sex can be “married” in the eyes of the State?—
WHY can’t a child marry his fathers wife? Why can’t a man
divorce his wife— and marry his dog— or his Television set? Why can’t some dirty old man marry the young boy entrusted to his care ,as a Coach? Why cant a man have two wives or twenty?Why can’t a five year old girl marry a prophet or warlord? “Legislation based upon the basis of the idea of the family,as consisting in and springing from the union for life of one man and one woman in the Holy estate of matrimony;...’ US supreme Court Murphy v. Ramsey and Others 144 US 15,45 (1885) I can agree with -any other lay opinion I cannot. Moses(Genesis) Jesus( Matthew) and the Apostle Paul( 1 Corinthians) all spoke of “marriage” as between one man and one woman—as did James Wilson in the founding era (College of Philadelphia,Lectures on American Law) and the US supreme Court ,(1885) what a shame to throw all that away for the false promise of peace,and happiness.


5 posted on 07/12/2012 4:59:59 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: scottjewell

Church ladies? Have they also forgotten God and the beauty of His wisdom?


6 posted on 07/12/2012 5:01:28 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: scottjewell

“...Church ladies...”?

How about “meddlesome shrews”? (I’m being kind.)


7 posted on 07/12/2012 5:01:43 AM PDT by moovova (Ladies & Gentlemen...Pandora has left the box.)
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To: scottjewell

It is probably going to be much closer than NC, I think.

Freegards


8 posted on 07/12/2012 5:02:17 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: scottjewell

“...come from different political parties.”
Democrat,Marxist,Socialist,Communist,Black Panther, etc.
But, there is one common thread here...they’re all stupid
liberals!


9 posted on 07/12/2012 5:04:06 AM PDT by Fireone (Traitors must be purged from Washington D.C.- Impeach, convict, and sentence!)
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To: Vigilanteman

...But the one thing they all have in common is they all love obama.


10 posted on 07/12/2012 5:05:33 AM PDT by rhinohunter (DraftWalkerNow)
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To: Vigilanteman; lightman

Is there any way to ban the ELCA from using the term Lutheran?


11 posted on 07/12/2012 5:05:51 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: StonyBurk

12 posted on 07/12/2012 5:09:02 AM PDT by Johnny_cash
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To: Cronos

I wish. Lifelong LCMS and I now cringe to tell people I’m a Lutheran—I always add an explanation that I’m not one of those Lutherans.


13 posted on 07/12/2012 5:13:03 AM PDT by Mom MD (T he country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: scottjewell

I don’t get it. Gays and lesbians have the same right to marry as I do.

They just don’t like that right.

eff um and their special rights.


14 posted on 07/12/2012 5:14:12 AM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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From the closing of the piece, it is clear that these middle aged women believe they have a crack at doing what those who supported the 1960s civil rights did: Looking noble in the face of bigotry. Except this issue is far more complicated, more dubious, less about civil rights and more about an agenda of selfishness and control.

It is just stunning to me that the gay agenda was able to fly the banner of “civil rights” and “equality” - something which they themselves do not believe, but the idiots at whom they throw their propaganda do believe - and so many have swallowed it hook, line, and sinker:

“Our state is contemplating losing its soul.” ...

The movement has become exactly what Henderson envisioned when she first bought the flags. . . . “Maybe in seeing those flags, people will see that in this neighborhood there’s more support out there for this issue than they had assumed. Maybe it will get people thinking, and maybe give them courage. That was my hope.”


15 posted on 07/12/2012 5:16:48 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Vigilanteman

Sounds like a bunch of old ladies who are closet lesbians to me.


16 posted on 07/12/2012 5:24:59 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: scottjewell
church ladies of the church of satan maybe.

They are not Christians and will face that reality when they face HIM.

LLS

17 posted on 07/12/2012 5:25:25 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: scottjewell

What this propaganda piece doesn’t tell you is that there is a much more populist — and no less determined — grass-roots effort to see this amendment passed. Never believe that the pro-homos are the only ones at work.


18 posted on 07/12/2012 5:32:02 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: scottjewell
Thanks for pointed out the closing piece. It is this area or defining majority that the media does great damage.
Gather 5 friends of the media “correct think” and the media will cover the story from a positive angle, Gather a hundred with the ‘wrong message’ and you will get no coverage or biased coverage.
Creating the image that a majority supports a view while a minority are against is nothing new to the media. Add to that orchestrated use of politically correct descriptors and you can turn the world upside down.
19 posted on 07/12/2012 5:35:36 AM PDT by lag along
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To: scottjewell

Interesting. So do any of these church ladies READ THE BIBLE?

I tell you, the way the media is hyping how much the people of Minnesota apparently LOVE sodomy, you wonder how the hell the measure got on the ballot.


20 posted on 07/12/2012 5:43:15 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: scottjewell
“Church” Ladies? They wouldn't be referring to the Unitarian/Universalist “Church”,home of atheists who need something to do on the odd Sunday morning,would they?
21 posted on 07/12/2012 5:47:40 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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To: IronJack

Yes, and therein lies the hope: That silent forces are at work countering this celebrated advocacy , and that there will be a big, fat surprise in November.


22 posted on 07/12/2012 5:48:08 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: lag along

Yes, it is all media spin and let’s hope that it will be countered bu a wave of opposition at the polls.


23 posted on 07/12/2012 5:49:10 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: SoFloFreeper
I tell you, the way the media is hyping how much the people of Minnesota apparently LOVE sodomy, you wonder how the hell the measure got on the ballot.

Since the courts in Massachusetts ruled homosexual "marriage" to be legal the pervert lobby has waged a continuous (and successful) campaign to keep the issue off the ballot (we have "initiative petition" here).That's because poll after poll here shows that pervert marriage would lose if placed on the ballot.It can't win in California...it wouldn't win in Massachusetts...and yet,somehow,it's so wildly popular from coast to coast and border to border.Something doesn't compute here!!

24 posted on 07/12/2012 5:55:52 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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To: scottjewell
Guess a lot of Christians now feel they have a chance to be part of a brave "civil rights" struggle.

I find their self-identification as "Christians" to be laughable. I realize some passages in the Bible are read a bit murky, but the references to homosexuality are quite clear:

Genesis 2:24(ESV)

24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

Matthew 19:4-6 ESV

He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”

Leviticus 18:22 ESV

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ESV

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Romans 1:26-28 ESV

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

So... take your chances, ladies... but know what you're mocking.

25 posted on 07/12/2012 5:56:01 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: scottjewell

“Launch” and “Crusade”?.....what a filthy little warmonger she is. Probably wears GI Joe jammies.


26 posted on 07/12/2012 6:13:41 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: scottjewell

“It is just stunning to me that the gay agenda was able to fly the banner of “civil rights” and “equality” - something which they themselves do not believe, but the idiots at whom they throw their propaganda do believe - and so many have swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.”

___________________________________________________________

It could be called,

The Invasion of the Heterosexual Snatchers

I have good, longtime straight friends, moderates and Republican leaning, who are totally enamored by the gay agenda. I cannot say ONE bad thing about homosexuality, without hearing it from these people.

A few years back, a close woman friend of mine called me a HOMOPHOBE, simply because I told her when I was in a subway car and saw a same sex couple making out, I moved to a different car.

Friends, heterosexuals, that is, who agree with me on many, many issues, think the gay movement is good, and there is something wrong with me for my ‘reactionary’ views.

I am white, but have dated a few black women. I have one lady friend, who would feel more comfortable if I was gay and had a boyfriend, than to know I dated a black woman.

How did this happen? How did this happen?


27 posted on 07/12/2012 6:17:26 AM PDT by NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN ('he who creates something worthwhile, never dies.'')
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To: scottjewell

My militant lesbian cousin lives in Minnesota.

Her latest outage is that the bank doesn’t recognize her “marriage” and won’t give them a loan. The bank even told them to go ahead and get the legal civil partnership and they will give them the loan.

Instead they’ve chosen to go without the house and throw the tantrum as usual.


28 posted on 07/12/2012 6:20:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: scottjewell
Heterosexual WASPs carry this massive guilt — they are not victims and they are not a recognized minority so they are searching for a reason for their less-than-perfect lives (which everyone, without exception, feels they are leading).
29 posted on 07/12/2012 6:25:44 AM PDT by immadashell
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Minnesota is the 31st state to include such a measure on a ballot, despite a strong LGBT community in Minneapolis, which was named the "gayest city in America" by Advocate Magazine in January 2011.

The author 'forgot' to mention that all other states have passed this ban (albeit the self-appointed gods in black robes, or legislatures, have often squelched the will of the people), including California (twice) which, face it, really has the gayest city in the universe...

30 posted on 07/12/2012 6:26:20 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: scottjewell

Oh, please. What nonsense. Of course, it’s The Atlantic.

Where are the stories about church ladies standing up and defending traditional marriage? Hmmm? Could it be Satan is behind The Atlantic?


31 posted on 07/12/2012 6:45:02 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: immadashell

But that is by design. WASPs have been told for the last half a century that they are insipid, colorless bourgeois drones unworthy of respect or emulation because they’re not occupied with challenging social norms and pushing back cultural boundaries.


32 posted on 07/12/2012 6:50:30 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: cripplecreek

Why can’t they just buy the house as tenants in common, or in a joint tenancy? Oh, wait! That doesn’t suit their gay agenda.


33 posted on 07/12/2012 6:55:56 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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So WASPs that’s the (derogatory) term for uptight-rich white liberals? (even Republicans) who don’t like Conservative Christians??

I live in one such neighborhood, can’t stand most.


34 posted on 07/12/2012 7:06:21 AM PDT by JSDude1
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Thank you all for so many astute comments. Yes, it is indeed The Atlantic: The agenda is the force which drives them. So there is the usual spin there: But there are facts and numbers there as well.

As the comments show, there has been a palpable change in the social gestalt surrounding same sex marriage, which was strategically engineered for just such a shift. Without using the term liberally, one can say there has been a victory of sorts: Not total, but formidable.

But social conservatism ain’t finished yet:

We will see what the November election brings: I am hoping a quiet but formidable push back. Then this piece will be proven to be empty fireworks, briefly entertaining and then diminishing into nothing....


35 posted on 07/12/2012 7:07:46 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

The Minneapolis suburbs of Minnetonka and Eden Prairie are hardly representative of small towns in what is referred to as “outstate” Minnesota, which includes everything outside the Minneapolis /St. Paul metro area. Minnetonka especially is an enclave of Birkenstock wearing, Volvo driving liberals that has very little in common with true small communities like Sleepy Eye, Pipestone, Backous, Ely or even more blue collar suburbs of the metro area. My bet is the vote to ban gay marriage will pass with large support from voters in outstate Minnesota.


36 posted on 07/12/2012 7:09:27 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Cronos
Is there any way to ban the ELCA from using the term Lutheran?

I wish. Martin Luther may not have been perfect. Some say he intensely disliked Jews. Others that he ripped the book of James from his Bible.

But nobody can deny that he was giant in contributions to Christian thought and theology. The ELCA seriously damages the brand.

37 posted on 07/12/2012 7:25:57 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: The Great RJ

Here’s hoping you are right. Then such church ladies will see where it all got them. Nothing like a good dose of reality to sober them up.


38 posted on 07/12/2012 7:50:44 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN

“How did this happen? How did this happen?”

Have been wondering that myself. Then I began to muse on just how enormous the egos of Baby Boomers are. This standing up for “marriage equality” makes them feel important and like they are reliving the MLK civil rights era. It is all about their egos and their wanting to feel special and “right”. They do not bother to examine the facts, or what effects this sea change will have on children and the social fabric. But then, weren’t most of them always that way? Same old story.


39 posted on 07/12/2012 7:54:32 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Vigilanteman
The women, mostly in their 40s and 50s, come from different political parties, religious views, and backgrounds . . .

But they all have the same supercilious attitude.

When you're driving down the highway, and in front of you is a car plastered with Obama, "gay" rights, and other "liberal" bumper stickers, it takes no psychic powers to predict the type of driver behind the wheel. Generally, it's someone in the aforementioned demographic with a smug, obnoxious expression on her face.

40 posted on 07/12/2012 7:55:27 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: JSDude1

More like RINOs who are desperate to be “accepted” in the New World Order, and who actually buy into the leftist notion that only change agents are “enlightened”. They’re people insecure in their principles and thus easily led astray.

They see God’s Law as The Ten Suggestions.


41 posted on 07/12/2012 8:06:24 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: scottjewell

HOMOSEXUAL: Because there’s nothing “GAY” about it!


42 posted on 07/12/2012 9:34:20 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: IronJack

I’ve found that they 1 don’t have any principles (other than standard leftist dogma and work being their “god”), and second they really don’t like God’s law.


43 posted on 07/12/2012 9:42:39 AM PDT by JSDude1
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To: JimRed

“HOMOSEXUAL: Because there’s nothing “GAY” about it!”

True. Gay is a lot quicker to type, though. ;) Moreover, “gay” and “lgbtq” have become to me even more sick and stigmatizing, as both depict so well that whole smug, liberal, politically correct mind-set. To me “homosexual” sounds like a lonely man back in the 1950s. “Gay” conjures up images of obnoxious Pride parades, leering and smug smiles, every form of silly lie about equality, and tons of “straight” decadents who have “embraced the rainbow”: In short, “gay” = the whole stale, senile, past its prime political agenda.


44 posted on 07/12/2012 9:54:02 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Vigilanteman

And they are almost all to a woman unmarried and live alone in tiny houses with fifty cats.


45 posted on 07/12/2012 10:08:26 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN

Propoganda is how it happened. People with brains don’t buy into it. Next time they bring up gay is good tell them they should try it and get back to you.


46 posted on 07/12/2012 11:36:40 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: JSDude1

Worse, they equate the biblical exhortation to care for one another to mean “endorse any whim that blows in the door.” Compassion doesn’t include enabling — by action or inaction — behavior that will rob you of your soul.


47 posted on 07/12/2012 11:37:01 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN

“I am white, but have dated a few black women. I have one lady friend, who would feel more comfortable if I was gay and had a boyfriend, than to know I dated a black woman.”

So she is both racist and pro-homosexualist? If you “dated” a black male, would she be OK with it?


48 posted on 07/12/2012 9:43:58 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN
I agree with you completely. The tide may finally be turning against abortion among the youth, but you can never, ever say anything derogatory about homosexuality. It's amazing how these cultural changes occurred so quickly. I graduated high school in 1995, my youngest sibling in 2004. In 1995 very few teens were on board the homo-agenda train. All of my younger siblings are pro-homo marriage or at least pro-civil union, while I, the old fogey, am a social dinosaur.

Once when watching HGTV or TLC with my sisters, I jokingly called one of the designers a "froot-loop." Perhaps I should have been more tactful, but her reaction was extreme! She curled up into a fetal position, began sobbing and called me a "racist bigot". She stormed out of the room in tears, yelling how she couldn't believe what a racist I was. My two other sisters followed her in support.

Besides the stupidity of my sister not knowing the definition of racism, the ironic part was that the television dandy was as pale as Pantone Color #11-0602 Snow White and our family is of Dominican descent, ranging from caramel to light beige. Not that the racial aspect matters anyway, but...what the heck was she thinking? Homosexuality is not a race, but that's what "youngsters" believe.

Mind control is a frightening thing, and when the schools, media, corporations, politicians, and wealthy philanthropists get behind an agenda, it's almost impossible to fight it.

49 posted on 07/12/2012 9:52:49 PM PDT by two134711 (I am Conservative, no longer a Republican.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Luther intensely disliked Jews who didn’t convert to his preaching :) He was very German in that respect that he was nice, but if he became bad, he became very bad — he disliked Catholics, Zwinglist, Calvinists, peasants etc. — but he was no anti-semite. A Jew who converted to Luther’s way of thinking was a-ok :)


50 posted on 07/12/2012 10:09:03 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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