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Federal Taxes lowest in last 30 years (Factcheck.org
Factcheck.org ^ | 7-12-12 | Brooks Jackson

Posted on 07/12/2012 9:15:26 AM PDT by raulgomez05

Politicians talk about the burden of taxes incessantly. Now comes a rare chance to check the facts. And the fact is that federal tax rates had fallen to the lowest in 30 years when President Barack Obama took office — and fell again in his first year in office.

This news comes from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, which just issued the latest update of its invaluable series on “Distribution of Household Income and Federal Taxes,” this time covering 2008 and 2009. The CBO’s statistical series now covers the 30 years since 1979.

The average rate paid by all households for all federal taxes combined — including income taxes, payroll taxes, excise taxes (on such things as gasoline, tobacco and alcoholic beverages) and individuals’ share of corporate income taxes — hit its highest rate during the period in 2000, just before President George W. Bush began signing the tax cuts that are scheduled to expire next year (unless Congress extends them again).

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I don't buy this.
1 posted on 07/12/2012 9:15:31 AM PDT by raulgomez05
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To: raulgomez05
I have only tow words for this one

Bull S***!

2 posted on 07/12/2012 9:17:57 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: raulgomez05; Bigun

“Much of the decline in 2008 and 2009 was due to the collapsing economy. The worst recession since the Great Depression of the 1930s began in December 2007. There were fewer corporate profits to tax, for one thing. And upper-level households, which pay the highest rates, also saw their incomes plunge along with the stock market and tumbling real-estate prices.”

“But some of the decline was also due to the tax cuts contained in Obama’s 2009 stimulus package, including a tax credit that benefited nearly all workers. Despite Republican criticisms, and Obama’s own campaign promise to raise taxes on upper-income households, the new president was a tax cutter in 2009.”


3 posted on 07/12/2012 9:23:38 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: raulgomez05

You have to remember. The Bush tax cuts, he had nothing to do with whatsoever. He claims credit while simultaneously rebuking them.

2010. The year that inheritance taxes did not exist. Really! My mother died then, not one damned tax from anyone! A fluke of the legislation. Remedied in 2011 and thereafter.

Remember the temporary cut in what liberals like to call “payroll taxes?” Actually the 2% reduction in the 6.2% contribution to Social Security each worker pays. He claims that as a tax reduction.

So I can believe that taxes were lower on the whole, but not by any substantive action by Obama except for further weaking of the outlay viability of Social Security.


4 posted on 07/12/2012 9:24:03 AM PDT by Gaffer (NOVEMBER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Bigun

You can’t pay no taxes if you ain’t making no money.


5 posted on 07/12/2012 9:24:19 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: DannyTN

Have Federal taxes increased after 2009? Or have they stayed the same?


6 posted on 07/12/2012 9:25:09 AM PDT by raulgomez05
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Well of course taxes paid are going to go down if taxable income goes down.

And 0bama has done a great job of eliminating taxable income. Welfare isn’t taxable, so all his dependent minions are paying a lot less in taxes. Everyone’s effective tax rate has gone down because everyone’s income has gone down.

Duhh...


7 posted on 07/12/2012 9:25:34 AM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: raulgomez05

You can never trust liberals to tell you the truth.

Taxes are a complicated thing and what your effective tax rate is has a lot of do with if you are sole proprietor business owner or work for a corporation, do you own a house or rent, how many kids you have, what type of deductions you have, what kind of investments and right-offs and investments you have.

Liberals don’t like to get into the nuances of the tax code and like to paint a broad brush because it serves their propaganda.


8 posted on 07/12/2012 9:28:13 AM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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While off hand I do not recall any RATE reduction since we elected a communist government the AVERAGE RATE should be down!

How can that be? Simple, if you lower the income of those few who are working more will fall into a lower tax bracket hence there will be a lower AVERAGE RATE paid along with falling revenues.

No mirrors required but the wording was deliberate to help Obama retain his regimes power.


9 posted on 07/12/2012 9:28:58 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: raulgomez05
I can buy it. The work force has shrunk at the same time the population has increased.
Those who have gotten new jobs are for salaries less than their old one.

The article picks & chooses which years to compare to, to make their case, but when the smoke clears, note this from the article...

"We noted in our June 4 article that President Obama’s spending levels are near the highest level since World War II, measured as a percentage of the nation’s gross domestic product. And we also noted that tax receipts were the lowest since 1950, as a percentage of GDP."
10 posted on 07/12/2012 9:29:24 AM PDT by stylin19a (Obama - The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance)
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the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office

A "nonpartisan" outfit created by a bunch of partisan politicians? What's wrong with this picture?

11 posted on 07/12/2012 9:30:16 AM PDT by Capn Freedom
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“Even those affluent households paid an average total federal tax rate of just 28.9 percent in 2009.”

Ignoring how this article is merely a masturbatory exercise in statistics-juggling, the odd use of the words “even” and “just” belie the “non-partisan” nature of Factcheck.


12 posted on 07/12/2012 9:32:43 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Future generations will curse what we've done to them.)
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To: raulgomez05
"average rate paid by all households" - I bet fewer "households" are paying any tax at all.
13 posted on 07/12/2012 9:34:03 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: raulgomez05

Taxes can stay where they are but what we really need right now is pending cuts.

The federal budget of $3.796 trillion needs to be cut by at least $800 billion and maybe even further.


14 posted on 07/12/2012 9:34:51 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: Bigun

Doesn’t take into account state and local tax burdens. Also doesn’t measure the effect of dollar debasement via Fed actions over the last 4 years. Some estimate an effective 22% tax on the American public from the declining purchasing power of said dollar.


15 posted on 07/12/2012 9:36:53 AM PDT by yadent
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To: Auntie Dem

Not to worry: we have SNAP, EBT, Obamaphones,Section 8, etc to make up your lost income.


16 posted on 07/12/2012 9:38:26 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: raulgomez05
The title is highly misleading and the point the article is trying to make is completely fraudulent. "Taxes" and "Revenues" are two entirely different things and are inversely proportional. One is a government mandated rate of confiscation. That has most definitely increased under Obama. Revenue is dependent on the pool from which that confiscation is taken, that is taxable economic activity. So they are demanding more milk from a cow they are in the process of beating to death yet are surprised when the milk cans aren't filling up to the "plan".

I have a photo I took years ago in a Soviet garment factory of a big banner reading (in Russian) "THE PLAN IS LAW!". And we all know how that economic model turned out. Some things and some kinds of people simply never change.

17 posted on 07/12/2012 9:40:17 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: yadent

that’s why inflation is the “hidden tax” politicians love most.

they can hide behind the nebulus “decline of the dollar”.


18 posted on 07/12/2012 9:41:43 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: yadent

Excellent point!

Right on target!


19 posted on 07/12/2012 9:45:07 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: raulgomez05

Good question. I checked both the CBO site and the IRS site and neither seem to have posted data beyond 2009.

I can’t think of any significant tax rate changes, but obviously changes in income are going to change the average rate paid.


20 posted on 07/12/2012 9:45:20 AM PDT by DannyTN
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