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FYI: ICE checkpoint in NH
Self | 7/12/2012 | Self

Posted on 07/12/2012 12:41:29 PM PDT by krogers58

My wife and I were just stopped in I-93 in north-central NH by Immigrations and Customs Enforcement agents. All cars were stopped, and the officer stuck his head in my window, much as they do at DUI checkpoints. He then looked around the car, and asked us if we were US citizens. We answered in the affirmative and he then asked for our ID's. What has happened to this country when we can be harassed by ICE but the actual illegal immigrants cannot?


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; immigration; vanity

1 posted on 07/12/2012 12:41:32 PM PDT by krogers58
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To: krogers58

Oh, yes.

Lots of English-speaking Mexicans coming across the Canadian border into New Hampshire.
/SARC

I think the government is punishing New Hamphire for something.

Don’t know what, though.


2 posted on 07/12/2012 12:44:18 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: krogers58

You should have said “No habla Ingles” and he would have tipped his hat and said “Vaya con Dios - Have a nice day. Remember to vote in November!”


3 posted on 07/12/2012 12:49:18 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: krogers58

There is another thread about a terrorist threat for a tunnel from Detroit to Canada today, so possibly they are checking for potential related activities.


4 posted on 07/12/2012 12:50:27 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: krogers58

NH? Sure.

But lets close six BP offices in Texas.

Right.


5 posted on 07/12/2012 12:54:10 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: krogers58

If they were serious about Illegal Emigrants, they would head south about 75 miles and set up shop on rt28 in Lawrence Mass.


6 posted on 07/12/2012 12:55:00 PM PDT by OJDIDIT2
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To: Westbrook
Lots of English-speaking Mexicans coming across the Canadian border into New Hampshire.

Oh yeah? Well, how 'bout all of them French speaking Quebecers? How about them?
7 posted on 07/12/2012 12:55:41 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana
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To: Westbrook
I think the government is punishing New Hamphire for something.

Don’t know what, though.


Yeah, we are opting out of the medicaid expansion that the gov't is trying to ram down our throats. We are also the only state in the union who doesn't have a seat belt law for adults. We have one for kids, but not adults. We mean it, up here, "Live Free or Die". Only problem is that our state's politics are being changed by the flatlanders (aka Massholes) escaping their liberal hell-holes.
8 posted on 07/12/2012 12:57:27 PM PDT by krogers58
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To: krogers58

The agent “stuck his head” inside your car window?
How?
If his head is 2 inches wide he may have gotten it in my window otherwise not so much........
You produced ID for him? Why? Was he citing you for some traffic violation? Investigating some criminal offense? No? Then sorry no ID.....


9 posted on 07/12/2012 12:57:32 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New Amerie and thrive it mustcan Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: krogers58

Its called Socialism/Communism, just wait until you have to show your papers at the road blocks to go from one county to the next and explain why you are going etc.etc. and don’t think it can’t happen here, take a look at history. Others thought the same and paid the price. I am not talking about you but the country as a whole.


10 posted on 07/12/2012 12:57:40 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: OJDIDIT2
If they were serious about Illegal Emigrants, they would head south about 75 miles and set up shop on rt28 in Lawrence Mass.

Big time! The whole city of Lawrence and Lowell would be vacant.
11 posted on 07/12/2012 12:59:34 PM PDT by krogers58
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To: NEMDF

That was my first thought as well...sounds a bit like the traffic stops around Atlanta a few months ago. As I recall, every truck on I-20 was being stopped and searched (during rush hour), and more than a few were being scanned by some sort of radiation detector. ICE was out there, along with the FBI and state and local law enforcement. Not to worry, we were told. It was just a “training exercise.” Expect a similar explanation for the stops in NH.


12 posted on 07/12/2012 1:03:26 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook (uoted)
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To: krogers58
Wow, this reminds me of that viral video that's going around that was posted a few days ago:

http://youtu.be/fDCXzqgD99o - "How Many Checkpoints in One Morning?! Welcome to the Police State!"
13 posted on 07/12/2012 1:06:46 PM PDT by Gennie
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To: Dr. Sivana

> Oh yeah? Well, how ‘bout all of them French speaking
> Quebecers? How about them?

LOL!!

You know, when Jimmah Carter established the Department of Education, the newly created Cabinet offered government money for bilingual education programs.

So, Governeor Meldrim Thompson of NH, seeing that 20% of the state at the time was French-speaking, applied for funds to establish a bilingual French/English program.

The new Dept of Education said that French/English did not qualify for the bilingual federal grants.

At the time, the number of Spanish-speaking folks in NH constituted less than 1% of the population. Yet, if the NH schools wanted the Federal grants, they would have to create Spanish/English bilingual programs, regardless of how useless they would be.

The NH governor declined, and NH was not eligible for Federal funds until Reagan was elected and removed the requirement.

Of course, what Reagan SHOULD have done was to ELIMINATE the Department of Education altogether and get the FedGov OUT of the government schools.


14 posted on 07/12/2012 1:10:56 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Westbrook
I think the government is punishing New Hampshire for something.

Didn't the legislature just pass Voter ID? I know it was being discussed, but I can't recall the circumstances...

15 posted on 07/12/2012 1:11:34 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: krogers58
Know Your Rights: What To Do If You're Stopped By Police, Immigration Agents or the FBI
16 posted on 07/12/2012 1:12:29 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: krogers58

I’ve crossed the border at Derby Line,VT a few times in the last year or so.Driving south on I-91 after having done so I’ve seen Border Patrol vehicles a few times.Never been stopped by one however.


17 posted on 07/12/2012 1:15:13 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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To: FReepaholic

I like bullet point #1 on that checklist.

“You have the right to remain silent. If you wish to exercise that right, say so out loud.”

?????


18 posted on 07/12/2012 1:17:57 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: who knows what evil?
I think the government is punishing New Hampshire for something.

Didn't the legislature just pass Voter ID? I know it was being discussed, but I can't recall the circumstances...

You know,you're right.Just a couple of weeks ago both houses of the New Hampshire Legislature voted to override the RAT Governor's veto of a voter ID bill.

19 posted on 07/12/2012 1:19:18 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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To: Gay State Conservative
That was it...I was laughing at the time because the legislature had finally overridden some of that fop Lynch's BS...it was Voter ID.

Here's the fed blowback.

20 posted on 07/12/2012 1:21:43 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: krogers58
What has happened to this country when we can be harassed by ICE but the actual illegal immigrants cannot?

It is called security theater: The same reason the TSA pats down nuns, makes a crippled boy give up his leg braces before passing through the metal detector and makes an elderly woman remove her briefs. But if you are the right kind of Muslim, you can pass through in a bur-qua.

There is a need to teach the uppity American people that they are subjects and not citizens.

21 posted on 07/12/2012 1:22:14 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: OJDIDIT2

How about starting in the Mayor’s office in Lawrence!?


22 posted on 07/12/2012 1:25:33 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: krogers58

Though typically, federal officers cannot demand identity papers, there is a bizarre twist, here.

In a US Customs jurisdictional area, many US civil rights are suspended. The weirdness is that these jurisdictional areas are *not* just the border stations, but can extend 50 miles(?) inland from any US border.

This gives ICE the authority to set up checkpoints and demand ID cards even though you haven’t crossed the border. Just that you are within 50(?) miles from it.

Most recently this came to light when there was an effort to outlaw many types of folding and switchblade knives, “within the jurisdiction of the US Customs and Border Patrol”.

They weren’t able to sneak this past the “knife rights” people who came down on this like a ton of bricks.


23 posted on 07/12/2012 1:26:16 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: krogers58

They’re just conditioning us to internal checkpoints just like the Soviets. Pretty soon, we’ll have to have internal passports to move around or relocate.

Wouldn’t be a bad idea if we could count on it keeping liberals from the left coast or the NE out.

But, somehow, I think they’ll look at a county like ours, that is 95% white, and relocate minorities in here to ‘balance things out’.


24 posted on 07/12/2012 1:27:43 PM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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To: krogers58

As motivated by that viral video from AZ....

“I’m on about my business and Obama doesn’t have the time or resources to staff the Mexican border, to protect against illegal entry.”
“So, why are you here in the heartland, harassing people without probable cause?”


25 posted on 07/12/2012 1:31:18 PM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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To: krogers58

They can do this in NH (far from Mexico), but they can’t in AZ? It must be zero’s people trying to show the American sheeple “what it’s like”, just to get them riled up against ID checks.


26 posted on 07/12/2012 1:33:34 PM PDT by jeffc (Welcome to the United Socialist States of America)
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To: krogers58

They were signing up illegals for Medicaid and food stamps.


27 posted on 07/12/2012 1:35:29 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Westbrook
Of course, what Reagan SHOULD have done was to ELIMINATE the Department of Education altogether and get the FedGov OUT of the government schools.

And that was an unkept promise that he made. Remember though, Reagan had a heavily Dem House, and many more RINOs in the Senate (partly offset by Boll Weevil Democrats, that have since gone extinct, Zell Miller being the last one).

Think of the '80s Senate : Lowell Weicker, Bob Packwood, Pete Wilson, Frank Murkowski, Paula Hawkins, Warren Rudman, John Warner, Alan Simpson, Nancy Kassebaum, etc.

In context, Dick Lugar looked like the Rock of Gibraltar.
28 posted on 07/12/2012 1:36:05 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana
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To: krogers58
obama-change-nazi
29 posted on 07/12/2012 1:37:12 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day. Another small provocation. Another step closer.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

> Think of the ‘80s Senate : Lowell Weicker, Bob Packwood,
> Pete Wilson, Frank Murkowski, Paula Hawkins, Warren Rudman,
> John Warner, Alan Simpson, Nancy Kassebaum, etc.

A veritable barf-o-rama.

But couldn’t Reagan have eliminated the cabinet department without Congress? After all, “the cabinet” is not constitutionally defined or required, right?


30 posted on 07/12/2012 1:46:32 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: krogers58

If something is not done soon it will be irreversible.

Every day another law another regulation (especially from the EPA) and we keep bending over a little more.

There are even some Freepers who see no problem with these internal checkpoints.

We should be very vigilant especially when we give any LEO power over us. History proves government power and intrusion ALWAYS increases. Sometimes the people get fed up and revolt. Unfortunately most times they just baaaah at each other and wait to be sheered.


31 posted on 07/12/2012 1:50:35 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

It doesn’t take the newbie BP agents long to discover that VT has no gun laws to speak of; once they learn everybody’s armed up in the Northeast Kingdom, they tend to stop acting like asshats with a badge.


32 posted on 07/12/2012 2:02:07 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Oh the irony
33 posted on 07/12/2012 2:17:47 PM PDT by Osage Orange (8675309)
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To: krogers58

Since when do you have to prove your an American? There was a youtube with one of these stops posted just a couple days ago on FR. The guy was stopped like three times one day and told them politely that he didn’t have to show his papers. Each time they hassled him but eventually let him go on his way.


34 posted on 07/12/2012 2:21:03 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Wurlitzer

“Constitution Free Zone” Questions Border Patrol Security & Search and Seizure Laws

http://www.frtv.org/2010/06/16/constitution-free-zone-border-patrol-security-search-and-seizure-laws/

At least 50 Miles South of the Canidian Border.


35 posted on 07/12/2012 2:23:55 PM PDT by RBW in PA
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To: Wurlitzer

There was a thread on FR back around March (?) discussing a government order for bullet proof checkpoint booths. Looks like the order came through and they’re trying them out. Expect more of these and it won’t be ICE manning them.


36 posted on 07/12/2012 2:28:47 PM PDT by bgill
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To: x1stcav
I moved from maryland ( THE Freak state) a few months ago. In montgomery county they give the "less fortunate" chits for rent. The idea is to move the "less fortunate" to good neighborhoods full of employed, hard-workers with good values. Guess what? "Unexpectably", the neighborhoods deteriorated. The "chitters" and their chillun are hanging out, creating noise, schools have more disruptive kids and the crime rate rises. Who woulda thunk?????????????????????????????????? Shazaam!
37 posted on 07/12/2012 2:29:09 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen

I’m about to move to Anne Arundel County. Is it also crazy?


38 posted on 07/12/2012 2:34:58 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Yes...when close to the District. Also, when there are majority libs. Good luck. I lived in MD for thirty years. They tax anything that moves and doesn’t. When we sold our house (Thank God) we had to pay a 3 1/2 percent state “transfer tax” on the sale price. Kind of like having to pay a government fee to leave a carribean island. The approximately $20,000 the state extorted from me was worth it. I got to leave that liberal moonbat hellhole. Utah is sooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better.


39 posted on 07/12/2012 2:45:30 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen

Nah, we’re in Odenton—I’ll be stationed at Fort Meade. We’re just renting. We were considering buying, but it sounds like it’s more trouble than it’s worth, especially if we wanted to sell.


40 posted on 07/12/2012 2:51:32 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: krogers58

I’d say What’s the point of looking at ID, you don’t deport anyone anymore if you find an illegal alien.


41 posted on 07/12/2012 3:11:55 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: x1stcav

Already happening.

Many of us in my formerly 99% white county have noticed an influx of blacks. No one knew a thing. Finally, someone with connections told me that the social workers in Milwaukee and Madison are telling single mothers that if they are looking for a *safer environment for the children*, they should come out here. Many are referred to La Crosse and are settled in a area that is predominately Hmong. Needless to add, there are now gang conflicts there between the Hmong and the blacks.


42 posted on 07/12/2012 3:17:50 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal
Get
Off
My
Lawn
43 posted on 07/12/2012 6:16:57 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Steyn: "One can argue about whose fault it is, but not ... whose responsibility it is: it's his")
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To: krogers58

Doesn’t look like the officers were being asked to determine who to stop and not stop...it was being equally applied to all travellers on the same road. I don’t see why this is being compared to AZ?

Working in the type of arena right now, it’s the ‘arbirary’ that can get one in trouble.


44 posted on 07/12/2012 6:23:43 PM PDT by closed for effect
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To: OJDIDIT2
If they were serious about Illegal Emigrants, they would head south about 75 miles and set up shop on rt28 in Lawrence Mass.

***************

Ah, I see we have some locals around here! Somebody who knows the roads! Cool!

I noticed that the big new Market Basket supermarket in Salem, N.H. (further north along Rt. 28) has an entire aisle set aside for Goya products. Nothing but Goya.

I live within sight of Lowell and krogers58 is right. Lowell would be deserted after an ICE sweep, too!

45 posted on 07/12/2012 6:47:19 PM PDT by DNME (Tired of being polite about it? Time for action? Reawaken the Sons of Liberty!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

there’s always a cop stop south of 83 on 91 in the middle of nowhere in VT...in the middle of the night...spooky.


46 posted on 07/13/2012 3:50:56 PM PDT by bitt (These Commies are making it impossible to stick to my self-imposed moratorium on foul language)
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