Skip to comments.America's coming civil war -- makers vs. takers
Posted on 07/12/2012 3:03:02 PM PDT by dynachrome
A house divided against itself cannot stand.
Those were Abe Lincolns words in his first inaugural in 1861, as America was running headlong into civil war. Now were a house divided again and another civil war is coming, with the 2012 election as its Gettysburg.
Call it Americas coming civil war between the Makers and the Takers.
On one side are those who create wealth, Americas private sectorthe very ones targeted by President Obamas tax hikes announced Monday.
On the other are the public employee unions; left-leaning intelligentsia who see the growth of government as index of progress; and the millions of Americans now dependent on government through a growing network of government transfer payments, from Medicaid and Social Security to college loans and corporate bailouts and handouts (think GM and Solyndra).
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
I’ll bet the UN didn’t have multiple nations flying over the “unruly population” back in the 1860s like they do now.
This pResident has already taken at least one state (Arizona) and made a complaint about that US State to the United Nations.
Under Bush we were at least allowed to build our own wall even without federal support.
Under Obama I can easily see a scenario where Russian and Chinese jets do fly overs under the UN Flag to keep the “enemy within” under control.
This is a different day than our ancestors have ever seen and a different America than it was just 5 years ago.
Under this pResident and the UN - “No Fly Zones” have been redefined as “Carpet Bombing”.
Not Gettysburg. Fort Sumter.
i’ve stated this on Freep in the past and have told many in political discussions the past three years; the coming civil war will not be between the haves and have nots rather those that do and those that don’t...
those that do take responsibility for themselves, those that do live within thier means, those that do pay their taxes, mortgages, bills on time and those that do sacrifice to make ends meet...
versus those that don’t and rely on those that do to pay their bills...
i am sick and effing tired of paying for everyone else...
Most likely both China and Russia will simply butt out.
When a dog and his fleas vote on whether or not to continue their relationship, nobody wonders how the vote goes.
So Social Security recipients, who have been real producers all their life are now labeled takers? If that’s the best that they can come up with, we are sunk.
It’s a fair article. I believe though that it’s message of warning has come to late. It’s no longer a matter of ‘if’, it’s now ‘when’. And I am so damn sad to have to say that.
I'm talking about UN fly overs at the request of the "American" pResident.
Just want to make that clear.
Government is an expression of culture.
Like the days before the Civil War, when the country was strongly divided between two cultures, the country now is strongly divided between a culture of traditional family structure, hard work, self-reliance and private and faith-based charity on the one hand and on the other hand, cultural Marxism.
Cultural Marxism has the upper hand in influence because of its dominance in entertainment, mainstream media, universities and public schools.
Even if traditionalists were to capture the government, it won’t mean much in the long term unless traditional culture can find a space to flourish without the domination of cultural Marxism.
And in the long run, cultural Marxism must lead to a police state because only traditional culture sustains the conditions for a free society.
Heck....All this time I’ve been arming myself to shoot zombies....
Shooting Progessives wouldn’t be any fun...they would whine, complain, get a trial lawyer involved...Sigh....
How about we just vote these b*sturds out?
I believe most likely other countries will simply not get involved, “that’s America’s problem” in other words.
Our Civil War resulted in the origin of the Jack-Boot Central Government that we have now.
Article V State Constitutional Conventions is a much better way to go.
It will take 32 States to hold and approve the terms, or we could just split up into Multi-State Regions.
One Region might be the States that the XL Pipeline will eventually run through, for example.
War bad, State Constitutional Conventions good.
Let the people vote with their feet to find the Liberty or Federal Slavery that they want.
Our ancestors did it when they left Europe, and now that Obamanation is now Europelite, it is time to vote with our feet inside what was once The United States of America.
If the history of nations is our guide, the “takers” always win.
If that's the way they think, they'll be wasting a great resource.
The "takers" are mostly those getting Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid payments. Good luck "Makers" trying to see those cut.
They have lumped Social Security recipients in with those programs where there is no required pay in. That is wrong.