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Americans Renouncing Citizenship at Record Levels to Protect Wealth
Fox News Latino ^ | June 2012

Posted on 07/13/2012 9:58:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

America's rich are renouncing their citizenship at record levels -- just to get richer.

Startling new data from Uncle Sam show that defections by Americans are expected to double this year, largely to avoid any stiff tax bills resulting from the proposed 55 percent hike on the rich, as well as the likely Dec. 31 expiration of the Bush-era tax cuts.

As many as 8,000 US citizens are projected by immigration officials to renounce in 2012, or about 154 a week, versus 3,805 in 2011, or about 73 per week.

"High-net-worth individuals are making decisions that having a US passport just isn't worth the cost anymore," according to Jim Duggan, a lawyer at Duggan Bertsch, which specializes in protecting assets of the wealthy. "They're able to do what they do from any place in the world, and they're choosing to do it from places with much lower tax rates."

Duggan added, "Some are philosophically disgusted at the course our country is taking, in all kinds of ways. They're making a strong protest of 'enough is enough.' But largely, it's an economic decision."

There is a catch to reaching tax nirvana. To renounce citizenship, and thus escape any future US taxes forever, a citizen must buy that freedom with a one-time exit tax of 15 percent on the fair-market value of all assets -- including real estate, securities, businesses and personal belongings -- less their basis price.

Duggan said that dozens of tax-haven nations and island regimes around the world eagerly welcome disenchanted rich Americans with quick citizenship, business deals and protections from the US Justice Department and the IRS. Among the popular spots: Australia, Norway, Singapore, Cayman Islands, Costa Rica, Guernsey and Antigua.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americans; citizenship; taxes; wealth

1 posted on 07/13/2012 9:58:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind


2 posted on 07/13/2012 10:00:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow, a whole .000006% of the population bails out. At that rates we only have a couple of hundred years before everyone is gone.

By the way, better off without them in the coming struggles.


3 posted on 07/13/2012 10:07:11 AM PDT by 11Bush
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To: SeekAndFind
I have a Dr. friend who is building a house in Belize and fully intends to Bug Out with family, permanently. He is convinced the Republic is irrevocably broken
4 posted on 07/13/2012 10:14:20 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: 11Bush

Yeah, i ain’t buying the scare tactics either.


5 posted on 07/13/2012 10:16:31 AM PDT by Clock King
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To: 11Bush

>>Wow, a whole .000006% of the population bails out. At that rates we only have a couple of hundred years before everyone is gone.

By the way, better off without them in the coming struggles.<<

The point is wealth can and will travel if pushed away. I moved out of California for the same reason: the administration made it crystal clear that my hard work is something to be punished, not rewarded. I ain’t rich by any means but am pretty comfortable and in the upper quintile of income (and thus a target). I won’t stay where I am not wanted (just my money is wanted). You can imagine how much tax revenue I took with me (5 figures). Add to that I have no kids and only drive < 1,500 miles a year (I travel for work) and California sent away quite an income stream in its arrogance.

The attack on the “rich” today is the same at the Federal level. How long would YOU put up with being told you are greedy and evil and will be a target just because you succeeded in what WAS the American Dream? Eventually you would flip everyone off, take your ball and go somewhere where they are happy to see you. And that place is NOT obozo’s America.


6 posted on 07/13/2012 10:18:49 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Guns Walked -- People Died -- Holder Lied -- Obama Golfed (thanks, Secret Agent Man))
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To: 11Bush

Wonder how much that .000006% contributed to the economy, property tax, charitable contributions, etc. Agree the volume is comically small and our great country will obviously survive... but there’s an impact of people Going Galt.


7 posted on 07/13/2012 10:18:59 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Can we cut the BS and just say it like it is?)
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To: 11Bush

I figure it’s actually about 3/1000 of 1 percent, and they’re from the productive half of society. When the wealthy take their football, it will be harder to play the game here.


8 posted on 07/13/2012 10:19:15 AM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: Made In The USA
And where does Galt go? From what other country has the same liberties and freedoms that we have? Guns, speech, religion,, etc. Name it.

If ya don't wanna stand here and fight. Then please do the best Sir Robin impression and run away.

9 posted on 07/13/2012 10:23:05 AM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: HangnJudge

I am convinced that the Republic is irrevocably BROKE. The interest payments on the debt alone will destroy the middle class standard of living. It’s simple math.
Prepare accordingly.


10 posted on 07/13/2012 10:23:05 AM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, how much money did they take with them?


11 posted on 07/13/2012 10:23:16 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Little Ray

All of it:) Another point is how much are these uber wealthy individuals(and other wealthy Americans)no longer investing in American companies? How much money has been lost due to foreign companies and investors pulling their money out or no longer investing in the US because of the current anti-business and class warfare brought on by the current communists posing as US politicians?


12 posted on 07/13/2012 10:32:29 AM PDT by ebersole
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To: 11Bush
Wow, a whole .000006% of the population bails out. At that rates we only have a couple of hundred years before everyone is gone.

Some of the rich have other alternatives. If they have decision-making power of wages and/or prices, they can (and do) effectively shift their tax burden onto average folks in the form of lower (or foregone planned increases to) wages, or higher (or foregone planned decreases to) prices. It's those without such control (like socialite and Dem supporter Denise Rich, who recently bailed out) that can then only escape these taxes by leaving.

The point is, the rich HAVE alternatives, and if they can't shift higher taxes onto us, they they will leave, and in ever increasing numbers until we become a more business-friendly country again. In the meantime, Dems can demogogue "tax the rich" all they want, but directly or indirectly, it's the average person who pays all the taxes.
13 posted on 07/13/2012 10:37:07 AM PDT by zencycler
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To: Little Ray
So, how much money did they take with them?

Seriously: about half what they started with.

The US has built a wall around its inmates, but instead of concrete that wall is built of asset-confiscation.

14 posted on 07/13/2012 11:02:35 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: zencycler
The history of the federal income tax tells us that the rich can beat the system, and they do this by getting the government to shift the burden onto the populace as a whole.
15 posted on 07/13/2012 11:07:03 AM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Some are philosophically disgusted at the course our country is taking, in all kinds of ways. They're making a strong protest of 'enough is enough.' But largely, it's an economic decision."

Good riddance!

So much for "...we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

16 posted on 07/13/2012 11:09:47 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: agere_contra

That is, if they just jump through all the hoops. The wealthy are clever enough to jump through some of them while their agents do run around the rest of them.


17 posted on 07/13/2012 11:13:05 AM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: RobbyS
Until we truly become a socialist country, the real levels of power over our economy exist in private enterprise, not in government. So my point is the rich don't need government to shift the tax burden onto us. Whatever taxes they are assessed are ultimately shifted onto us in the form of lower (or foregone increases to) wages or higher (or foregone decreases to) prices.

Tax cuts take longer to "trickle down" since corporations can enjoy the increased after-tax profits until competitive pressures force them to consider wage increases or price improvements. But tax increases are guaranteed to trickle down very quickly, since ultimately, people are in business to make after-tax profits.
18 posted on 07/13/2012 11:22:49 AM PDT by zencycler
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To: 11Bush

Yeah, wait til it gets to the 1% who pay the bills.


19 posted on 07/13/2012 11:32:43 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: agere_contra; ebersole

So we have lost a huge sum in wealth and talent; the situation is so bad that these folks are willing to take a major hit to their net worth just to get away.

In a rational nation, that would be called a “clue.”


20 posted on 07/13/2012 11:43:08 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Little Ray

“In a rational nation, that would be called a “clue.””
Most nations in decline are not overly full of rational people.


21 posted on 07/13/2012 12:25:38 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Be strong in truth!)
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To: SeekAndFind

With no rich people who will pay the bills...
FREE healthcare may end up being pretty expensive..


22 posted on 07/13/2012 12:41:25 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: DTogo

RE: So much for “...we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.”

We gotta remember, that was in the context of getting rid of the yoke of a King who was oppressing and taxing them.


23 posted on 07/13/2012 1:49:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind
We gotta remember, that was in the context of getting rid of the yoke of a KingPresident who was oppressing and taxing them.

Very minor "history repeating itself" adjustment for ya. ;^)

24 posted on 07/13/2012 2:36:39 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s see...

Remain a citizen of the most free nation ever to exist on planet earth and have a radical communist Muslim illegal for a president, or renounce citizenship.

Hmm. Tough choice.

Point being, I never thought I would live to see the day when I would admit there could be some upside to renouncing one’s US citizenship. Heck, I can’t even say the phrase “renounce US citizenship” without thinking of the story “Man without a Country”, so deep an impression it made on me in my youth.

Ouch! Like Aesop’s fable’s, once again I stumble across a book that I read as a child that helped me appreciate liberty and develop patriotism. Contrast that against modern children, the vast majority of them never read a single patriot book from their parents. No wonder they become brainwashed so easily.

Man Without a Country is a short story, linked below:

http://www.bartleby.com/310/6/1.html


25 posted on 07/13/2012 3:00:09 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: RobbyS
The history of the federal income tax tells us that the rich can beat the system, and they do this by getting the government to shift the burden onto the populace as a whole.

You can't be serious. Are you ignorant to the fact 50% of that whole populace pays no federal or state income taxes? There goes half your claim.

Are you ignorant to the fact that the top 10% pay 71% of Federal income tax, or that the top 1% pay 38% of all federal income taxes?

I admit that the rich have the means to beat the system to some extent, reducing their paper liabilities dramatically, but your claim that the whole population is paying the tax burden is preposterous and far from true.

26 posted on 07/13/2012 3:05:13 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: agere_contra

From Top Secret!

Hillary Flammond: My uncle was born in America.
Nick Rivers: Oh, really?
Hillary Flammond: But he was one of the lucky ones. He managed to escape in a balloon during the Jimmy Carter presidency.


27 posted on 07/13/2012 3:06:49 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

The progressives intended that ONLY the 1% pay the tax on income. But during the war, the government jacked up the rates AND began to create brackets for less wealthy people in order to prosecute the war, just as in the Civil War. After the War, the rich got the rates lowers, but the less wealthy continued to share the burden. In 1935 FDR declared class warfare on the rich, as a way of lowering the deficit. When the war came, however, the rates went up against and now , for the first time, the truly middle-class person was forced into the system with the introduction of the withholding tax. After the war, the top rates remained low, but the wealthy began to work the system and their lobbyists began the win exceptions for their interests. The medical insurance scheme was just one way to reward employees without paying them higher wages.


28 posted on 07/13/2012 4:45:00 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Meanwhile, our troops are fighting and dying to protect their way of life. Some people are shameless.


29 posted on 07/14/2012 4:18:15 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: zencycler

I am not saying anything more than what Aristotle is attributed as saying, which is that those who own the wealth, own the government. In a socialist state, of course, that might include a different set of people.But this word “private.” does it means anything more than not under the direct control of the State?


30 posted on 07/14/2012 10:06:49 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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