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First Thoughts: Condi for VP; Don't Count on It
MSNBC.MSN.COM ^ | 13 Jul 12

Posted on 07/13/2012 12:00:50 PM PDT by xzins

*** Condi for VP?

Don’t bet on it: Well, we learned last night that the Drudge Report -- with its close ties to the Romney campaign -- still has the power to change the subject, at least for several hours. Its provocative headline: “Romney narrows VP choices; Condi emerges as front-runner.”

But if you believe that Rice (who has never held elective office, who is closely tied to George W. Bush’s unpopular foreign-policy decisions, and who supports abortion rights) is going to be Romney’s VP pick, we have some oceanfront property in Nebraska to sell you.

In fact, this tweet from prominent conservative Erick Erickson should settle things for everyone: “Multiple assurances from Team Romney tonight that Condi is not happening for Veep.”

Meanwhile, a fundraising pitch from Romney Campaign Manager Matt Rhoades seemed to suggest that Romney’s VP choice isn’t happening soon. “Sometime between now and the Republican convention, Mitt will be announcing his choice for VP,” Rhoades writes.

(Excerpt) Read more at firstread.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: condi; elections; romney

1 posted on 07/13/2012 12:00:55 PM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins

Team etch-a-sketch polling on pro-abort Rice as we freep!!!


2 posted on 07/13/2012 12:05:02 PM PDT by Fred (http://www.obamanomicsoutsourced.com/)
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To: xzins
Condi for VP?

Romney is a risk-averse guy, and bringing on Rice, with her connections to the Bush Administration, is fraught with risk .. with very little reward. Ain't gonna happen. It's a smokescreen... fairly well-played, actually.

3 posted on 07/13/2012 12:05:15 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: xzins

I have the greatest of admiration for Dr. Rice, even knowing what some of her political positions are, and I admit that I looked forward to her taking on Hillary Clinton in 2008, but, in retrospect, she’s not a politician, and she’s not the one that Romney needs to shore up his right wing.


4 posted on 07/13/2012 12:05:32 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: xzins

Gov Susana Martinez is the better choice.

Brings in many Hispanic voters.
Helps with women voters.
She is conservative.
She is popular as governor with very good approval ratings.
She gives the ticket good geographical, philosophical & gender balance.


5 posted on 07/13/2012 12:05:42 PM PDT by entropy12 (Hate is the most insidious emotion, it will rot your gut from the inside.)
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To: All
The money quote:

In fact, this tweet from prominent conservative Erick Erickson should settle things for everyone: “Multiple assurances from Team Romney tonight that Condi is not happening for Veep.”

6 posted on 07/13/2012 12:06:09 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Maybe Romney should pick Al Sharpton, Jessee Sr, J. Wright, or Howdy Dowdy. The Lamestream media will crucify him.


7 posted on 07/13/2012 12:07:53 PM PDT by animal172 (Calling the Founding Fathers!! We need your help.)
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To: xzins

If he picks Condi, he is done. Obama etal are hoping.


8 posted on 07/13/2012 12:08:02 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: xzins
Romney's professional Mittbot team are so pedestrian they are looking first to protect their massa' from impeachment by sticking someone in as VP none of us would ever want as President.

That's as simple as it gets.

I suspect Mitt needs an entirely new professional staff ~ but no one of any talent is going to work for this guy after he gets rid of these people.

9 posted on 07/13/2012 12:10:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: xzins

Condi voted for Brock Obama in 08


10 posted on 07/13/2012 12:10:31 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: xzins
First Thoughts: Condi for VP; Don't Count on It

I hope not. I like her less than I like Willard.

11 posted on 07/13/2012 12:11:10 PM PDT by sockmonkey (She could never be a saint, but she thought she could be a martyr if they killed her quick)
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To: entropy12

And it would give him a shot at New Mexico’s electoral votes.

Rubio remains his best choice, but I can see him thinking he could trade hispanic votes if he got a higher percentage of female votes.

The problem with Maritinez, of course, is that she’s a first term governor.

Rubio gives him Florida and more Hispanics.

His problem now is that Obama is at 247 EV’s according to Rasmussen, and that means just 23 more and he’s at the magic 270. Florida and just about any two of the remaining states would be doomsday for Romney.

He’s on a tightrope electorally right now. He needs to peel some of those leaning states away from Obama to change the scenario: Michigan or PA need to go back into play.


12 posted on 07/13/2012 12:13:03 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Is this a political tactic design to pull in disaffected Obama supporters and otherwise independent Democrats?


13 posted on 07/13/2012 12:18:30 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the StatistI)
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To: xzins

It was a publicity stunt...by Drudge and probably by Romney too. Keep everyone interested and talking about you. And WAY more people are interested in the “beauty contest” aspects (who will he choose, who can we talk about) than about the policy issues.


14 posted on 07/13/2012 12:21:26 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: entropy12

I really support her but I think she is highly apprehensive about Palinizing her family.


15 posted on 07/13/2012 12:21:26 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: xzins

It was a publicity stunt...by Drudge and probably by Romney too. Keep everyone interested and talking about you. And WAY more people are interested in the “beauty contest” aspects (who will he choose, who can we talk about) than about the policy issues.


16 posted on 07/13/2012 12:21:40 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: entropy12

I really support her but I think she is highly apprehensive about Palinizing her family.


17 posted on 07/13/2012 12:21:40 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: entropy12; xzins

Martinez has said repeatedly she will not accept a VP slot.

I believe she strongly means this as she is one of the only living family members of her sister who is handicapped (I forget just what) and in Las Cruces, NM. Gov. Martinez has said she couldn’t move her sister from where she is nor could she leave her behind to move to DC.

I tend to believe her as she’s one of the more honest politicians I’ve seen here in NM.


18 posted on 07/13/2012 12:23:18 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: xzins
In Depth with Bill Gertz
Bill Gertz discusses his new book "The Failure Factory," on C-span. [VIDEO]
..."First there was Condoleeza Rice, a classic RINO. Her tenure was marred by the fact that she brought to the White House some of most misguided anticonservative liberals - both Republican and Democrat. She and the president failed to understand the strategic principle of government that picking the wrong people results in the wrong policies." ...

19 posted on 07/13/2012 12:26:58 PM PDT by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." --Kool-Aid)
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To: xzins

Actually the two might be better matched than most people think.

Mitt is at best a sorry mush on abortion. So’s she.


20 posted on 07/13/2012 12:27:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

Given that Mitt is Mitt, and that he’s the only viable choice being served up (short of a coup at the GOP convention) to oust the dearly execrated Barack Obama, it makes some sense to see who posterity might be — this person will probably be heir apparent to the next GOP presidential candidacy. Beauty, schmeauty! What would (person X) look like in the Oval Office. The idea of Condi Rice makes me a bit uneasy. Even Mitt would be more competent.


21 posted on 07/13/2012 12:30:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew)
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To: xzins
This 'Condi Rice as Romney's VP' story is either a trial balloon or just a clever way to get publicity for Romney. I vote for the latter. Rice has her attributes but her Bush baggage is huge, she has never run for any office (and hates 'retail politics)' and she is pro-abortion. Mitt may like the idea of Condi as his VP but if he isn't ready to commit campaign suicide, he'll keep looking - for a conservative running mate.
22 posted on 07/13/2012 12:33:42 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: Jim Scott
In a seemingly unrelated matter, Santorum to campaign for Romney.

There is your VP nominee...

23 posted on 07/13/2012 12:36:58 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Too many thinking Freepers have left the building...)
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To: xzins
Think of what Rubio could accomplish if he publicly stated,

"I'd like to put these VP nomination rumors to rest once and for all. While serving as VP would be a great honor, I'd not be able to accept the office as I am not a Natural Born Citizen. My parents became US Citizens after my birth so by the eligibility requirements specified in Article. II. Section. 1. I'm not eligible.

The fact that the CommiecRAT Party lied about their usurper Obama's status doesn't change the Constitutional Natural Born Citizen requirement."

24 posted on 07/13/2012 12:52:41 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Daveinyork

“she’s not a politician,”

Never run for office means that she may not have been as vetted by the media as thoroughly as a VP candidate should be.


25 posted on 07/13/2012 1:15:44 PM PDT by garjog
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To: garjog

A VP announcement will not be made until the convention. The GOP wants the highest ratings possible. If they announced before the convention, the “suspense” factor would be gone.


26 posted on 07/13/2012 1:19:32 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Santorum would be a sane choice and might help in more than one way. Will Mitt suddenly find the backbone in his own religion when this Rick (”porn is #1 problem in USA”) Santorum finds his stride?


27 posted on 07/13/2012 4:29:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew)
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To: xzins
Obama isn't near 247!

He isn't going to win those GOP States he won last time.

Those polls are way too anti-GOP.

The independent vote is going to swing strongly for Romney and the Democrats know it.

28 posted on 07/14/2012 3:38:18 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

If he could ensure Penn. pickup, it would be very smart.


29 posted on 07/14/2012 3:39:11 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration; P-Marlowe

Many pro-Romney supporters are in denial. I watched it with McCain, too, ftD.

Everyone said those polls didn’t matter, that they were biased, out of touch, inaccurate, and on and on.

Turns out they were correctly tracking that race throughout.

Rasmussen is an extremely balanced pollster. If he says that at this moment in the campaign that Obama is leading with 247 electoral votes, then you can bet that the picture is pretty close to accurate.

Allowing crossover democrats to vote in republican primaries has given republicans a liberal candidate who approves of gay couples, gay couples adopting kids, and big government health care.

What exactly were they thinking? Santorum was right....Romney is exactly the wrong guy to run against Obama.

Join us in voting for the only conservative in the race: Constitution Party candidate, Virgil Goode. Incidentally, ftD, Goode believes the same as you do.


30 posted on 07/14/2012 5:16:01 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
Well, my friend, sometimes the polls are 'juiced'.

The most important group will be the Independents and the polls admit that they are already strongly going for Romney.

The polls are trying to counter this by saying that the Democrats are more enthusiastic then the GOP.

But I don't see it, with a chance to end Obamacare, the GOP rank and file are itching to vote.

Obama has lost much of his own base.

He is not getting those GOP States such as Ind. Vir. NC, Fl., they are going back GOP.

So, I don't know where they are giving him 247 ev's.

The nation has been trending GOP for the last 4 years in every major election, this will not be any different, with the chance to put a dagger into the heart of Obamacare and get rid of this interloper once and for all.

I think Romney gets 300 ev's.

He might even win Mass. :>

31 posted on 07/14/2012 12:21:24 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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