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Obama Says People Who Watch Fox News Are "Stubborn" (video)
Real Clear Politics ^ | 7/13/12 | staff

Posted on 07/13/2012 12:10:46 PM PDT by Nachum

"So, just in case some of your friends or neighbors or, ya know, Uncle Jim who’s a little stubborn and been watching Fox News and, ya know, he thinks that somehow I raised taxes. Let’s just be clear. We’ve lowered taxes for middle class families since I came in office," President Obama said at a campaign event in Virginia Beach, VA today.

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1 posted on 07/13/2012 12:10:55 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

That’s a pretty scary statement coming from a President of the United States.


2 posted on 07/13/2012 12:12:57 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: Nachum

I guess he didn’t want to attack the SCOTUS again. THEY’RE the ones who deemed it a TAX.


3 posted on 07/13/2012 12:13:37 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Nachum

You bet your boots I’m stubborn and will continue to stubbornly cling to my faith, my family, The United States, Constitution, and my guns!


4 posted on 07/13/2012 12:14:25 PM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: Nachum

I will say right off haven’t seen the vid (no bandwidth) BUT yeah a bit stubborn about the Constitution and your lawless rule!


5 posted on 07/13/2012 12:14:25 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eat my dog!)
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To: Nachum

Like those pesky “stubborn” Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto who wouldn’t walk into the boxcars. DAMN RIGHT we won’t go quietly, you son of a bitch!


6 posted on 07/13/2012 12:15:27 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Nachum

He didn’t go for “bitter, clinging to guns and religion” this time around?


7 posted on 07/13/2012 12:15:35 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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8 posted on 07/13/2012 12:16:10 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

What he really means is that the viewers who watch Fox are like the dudes that finally find the ‘glasses’ that show what the aliens really look like in Roddy Piper’s “They Live.”


9 posted on 07/13/2012 12:17:43 PM PDT by Gaffer (NOVEMBER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Nachum

10 posted on 07/13/2012 12:18:09 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Nachum

Here’s Obama’s problem. The people who actually pay taxes know that’s BS and the people who pay NO taxes don’t care.


11 posted on 07/13/2012 12:18:18 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Nachum

Arrogant, Incompetent, Marxist Dictator Obama has more than earned the “You Lie” nickname that SC R Rep. Joe Wilson gave him. Good call Joe!


12 posted on 07/13/2012 12:18:48 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Gaffer

An aside for the South Park afficionados. There was an episode where two of the ‘cripples’ fought in an alley. That sequence was choreographed verbatim according to the fight scene between Roddy Piper and his co-star.


13 posted on 07/13/2012 12:19:33 PM PDT by Gaffer (NOVEMBER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Nachum; All

in a way he’s right- we are stubborn to our convictions and beliefs and not led around by the nose......

that’s a hell of a lot better than the complete and utter ignorance of the NYSlimes/WaComPost readers and MSNBC/See BS/ABC/NBC viewers...


14 posted on 07/13/2012 12:19:46 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: Nachum

I guess that the TOTUS hadn’t been loaded with “they cling to their guns and religion” at that time.


15 posted on 07/13/2012 12:20:31 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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To: Nachum

Mr. Uniter strikes again.


16 posted on 07/13/2012 12:21:26 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (OWS = The Great American Snivel War)
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To: F15Eagle

He is enjoying that straw just a bit much...


17 posted on 07/13/2012 12:22:32 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Too many thinking Freepers have left the building...)
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To: tsowellfan

Stubborn because he doesn’t drink the Cool Aid.


18 posted on 07/13/2012 12:22:41 PM PDT by Internet Walnut
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To: All

19 posted on 07/13/2012 12:23:08 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Nachum
My rebuttal:

"So, just in case Prezdent Barck Odimbulb, who’s a little racist and wants to start identifying which Hispanics have been buying guns and, ya know, he thinks that somehow it's OK for him to be racist because he's black. Let’s just be clear. You can be a black president, and still be a racist."

And stupid. Let's not forget stupid, like Barack Obama, who is the exact opposite of Condoleezza Rice, who is smart.

Did I mention that Condoleezza is smart, and that Barack is the exact opposite intellectually? In other words, he's not very bright.

20 posted on 07/13/2012 12:24:29 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Nachum
obama is stupid...

and we plan to VOTE him out in November.

21 posted on 07/13/2012 12:26:06 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: Nachum

Wow ... he must watch a LOT of Fox News.


22 posted on 07/13/2012 12:27:01 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Nachum

Real leadership there Barry. Marx and Alynsky are praising you from hell.


23 posted on 07/13/2012 12:27:53 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Nachum

He doesn’t like stubborn things. That’s why he also dislikes facts.


24 posted on 07/13/2012 12:29:37 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Bigun

B. H. O. — K M W A !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


25 posted on 07/13/2012 12:30:04 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Nachum
Let’s just be clear.

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26 posted on 07/13/2012 12:30:04 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Nachum

Hey, Zippy—let’s be clear: You’re an American-hating, Constitution-ignoring,corrupt Communist Manchurian Candidate who should be marching in a gay pride parade.


27 posted on 07/13/2012 12:31:09 PM PDT by exit82
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To: Nachum

BO thinks I’m stubborn because I cling to my guns and my religion....

And keep throwing things at the TV.


28 posted on 07/13/2012 12:31:57 PM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: gov_bean_ counter; F15Eagle
He is enjoying that straw just a bit much...

He's probably just practicing his "Abdullah Hassan al-Asiri"...

29 posted on 07/13/2012 12:35:41 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: gov_bean_ counter

30 posted on 07/13/2012 12:35:41 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Nachum

Liar.

1. Signed increase in tobacco tax
2. Individual mandate TAX for healthcare
3. Employer mandate TAX for healthcare
4. 3.8% surtax on investment income for those making over $250k...goes into effect 2013.
5. 40% tax on ‘cadillac’ healthcare plans (except favored unions)....effective 2018
6. Medicare tax increase from 1.45% to 2.35% for those making over $250k...3.8% if self-employed
7. 2.3% excise tax on medical devices
8. Threshold for itemizing medical expenses changed from 7.5% to 10%.
9. 10% tax on tanning
10. $50,000 fine for hospitals that fail to meet new ‘community health assessment needs’ - read “quiz patients on whether or not they own a gun”
11. Tax on health insurance premiums starts in 2014.


31 posted on 07/13/2012 12:36:02 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: F15Eagle
LOL in Cube!!!

Thanks!!!!

32 posted on 07/13/2012 12:40:05 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Too many thinking Freepers have left the building...)
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To: Nachum

Class warfare. What a “uniter”!


33 posted on 07/13/2012 12:40:51 PM PDT by jeffc (Welcome to the United Socialist States of America)
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To: gov_bean_ counter; kiryandil

Saw it on FR a few weeks ago. Pass it around to folks ya know.

The one on the runway is especially ... well ... kinda ...


34 posted on 07/13/2012 12:43:56 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Nachum

Yeah, you’re right Bam-ster. “Facts are stubborn things.”


35 posted on 07/13/2012 12:44:33 PM PDT by Be Free (Why does Obama have drones conducting domestic spying on our own citizens?)
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To: tsowellfan

This is not the first time the most powerful and “smartest” man on earth has made statements that prove he is mentally challenged.

I would excuse this as dictater wannabee speak except there are numerous examples of his uttering simaler statements that prove beyond a doubt he is an AA moron.


36 posted on 07/13/2012 12:44:36 PM PDT by winodog
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To: Nachum

Obama The Man-Child is as ignorant and/or stupid as any person I have ever met..........


37 posted on 07/13/2012 12:45:55 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: lacrew

It’s not just taxes either Zero...

How about the extra buck we pay for food-grade gasoline?

At 20 gal/wk, that’s another thousand per year, and with the crop failures, it can only go up.

Bought food lately? Wait for the herds to be culled out and burger going to $5.


38 posted on 07/13/2012 12:46:10 PM PDT by glock rocks (optimist / pessimist? I'm an awesomist - There's a dragon in that glass!)
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To: lacrew

On November 4, 2008, The American people had a choice to make. [To Wit]: Whether they wished to live as Government supported slaves ; or live as responsible individuals. The majority of those that voted said, via their votes, that they preferred Governmental slavery. Their wishes are now being fulfilled.


39 posted on 07/13/2012 12:47:30 PM PDT by sport
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To: winodog

I would excuse this as dictator wannabee speak except there are numerous examples where the man has already put some of this speak into action.


40 posted on 07/13/2012 12:47:42 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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41 posted on 07/13/2012 12:48:00 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Nachum

Hey Barack, I don’t watch Faux News, and I know you raised taxes.


42 posted on 07/13/2012 12:48:47 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: tsowellfan

Yep. Bitter clinger to my guns and Bible as well as stubborn.


43 posted on 07/13/2012 12:48:47 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Nachum
"We’ve lowered taxes for middle class families since I came in office"

Yes; if you mean that middle class families have lost their income via layoffs, and they don't "have to pay" income taxes on that lost income.

Other than blacks who vote for a black because he's black, what SANE American who is PRODUCTIVE AND NOT LIVING OFF OTHERS' EARNINGS woul vote for this jackass?

Unfortunately, about 1/2 the Country now pays no taxes, so they think it's okay.

44 posted on 07/13/2012 12:50:30 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Nachum

You bet we are. You don’t know the half of it, Obamugabe. Not the half.


45 posted on 07/13/2012 12:51:10 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Nachum

Is that an example of being “a uniter not a divider”?


46 posted on 07/13/2012 12:52:27 PM PDT by Capn Freedom
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To: Nachum

I guess the thing I hate most about this ignorant S.O.B. is that he talks like he knows everything when he actually knows nothing.


47 posted on 07/13/2012 12:53:04 PM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: Nachum

I am more than stubborn at the idea that putz would be okay with the UN attacking our 2nd Amendment rights.


48 posted on 07/13/2012 12:53:45 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Nachum; All
This statement from President Obama reveals a trait which must be compared with that of early Presidents. Combined with his numerous other veiled and unveiled "attacks" on FOX and its audiences, the lack of trust in a free press and those who are its viewers/readers cries out for comment from that great presidential advocate for a free press and trustworthiness of "the People" and their judgment, Thomas Jefferson.

The "newspaper" presses of Jefferson's day are now the new forms of communication such as FOX and other means not "manipulated and infiltrated" by coercive political power of the prevailing political party.

"The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787. ME 6:57

"The press [is] the only tocsin of a nation. [When it] is completely silenced... all means of a general effort [are] taken away." --Thomas Jefferson to Thomas Cooper, Nov 29, 1802. (*) ME 10:341

"The only security of all is in a free press. The force of public opinion cannot be resisted when permitted freely to be expressed. The agitation it produces must be submitted to. It is necessary, to keep the waters pure." --Thomas Jefferson to Lafayette, 1823. ME 15:491

"The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves, nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe." --Thomas Jefferson to Charles Yancey, 1816. ME 14:384

"The most effectual engines for [pacifying a nation] are the public papers... [A despotic] government always [keeps] a kind of standing army of newswriters who, without any regard to truth or to what should be like truth, [invent] and put into the papers whatever might serve the ministers. This suffices with the mass of the people who have no means of distinguishing the false from the true paragraphs of a newspaper." --Thomas Jefferson to G. K. van Hogendorp, Oct. 13, 1785. (*) ME 5:181, Papers 8:632

"Our liberty cannot be guarded but by the freedom of the press, nor that be limited without danger of losing it." --Thomas Jefferson to John Jay, 1786.

"I am... for freedom of the press, and against all violations of the Constitution to silence by force and not by reason the complaints or criticisms, just or unjust, of our citizens against the conduct of their agents." --Thomas Jefferson to Elbridge Gerry, 1799. ME 10:78

"The art of printing secures us against the retrogradation of reason and information." --Thomas Jefferson to Pierre Paganel, 1811. ME 13:37

"The light which has been shed on mankind by the art of printing has eminently changed the condition of the world... And while printing is preserved, it can no more recede than the sun return on his course." --Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1823. ME 15:465

"The art of printing alone and the vast dissemination of books will maintain the mind where it is and raise the conquering ruffians to the level of the conquered instead of degrading these to that of their conquerors." --Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1821. ME 15:334

"To preserve the freedom of the human mind... and freedom of the press, every spirit should be ready to devote itself to martyrdom; for as long as we may think as we will and speak as we think, the condition of man will proceed in improvement." Thomas Jefferson to William Green Munford, 1799.

"No experiment can be more interesting than that we are now trying, and which we trust will end in establishing the fact, that man may be governed by reason and truth. Our first object should therefore be, to leave open to him all the avenues to truth. The most effectual hitherto found, is the freedom of the press. It is, therefore, the first shut up by those who fear the investigation of their actions." --Thomas Jefferson to John Tyler, 1804. ME 11:33

"Weighing all probabilities of expense as well as of income, there is reasonable ground of confidence that we may now safely dispense with... the postage on newspapers... to facilitate the progress of information." --Thomas Jefferson: 1st Annual Message, 1801. ME 3:331

"No government ought to be without censors, and where the press is free, no one ever will. If virtuous, it need not fear the fair operation of attack and defence. Nature has given to man no other means of sifting out the truth whether in religion, law or politics. I think it as honorable to the government neither to know nor notice its sycophants or censors, as it would be undignified and criminal to pamper the former and persecute the latter." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1792. ME 8:406

"This formidable censor of the public functionaries, by arraigning them at the tribunal of public opinion, produces reform peaceably, which must otherwise be done by revolution. It is also the best instrument for enlightening the mind of man and improving him as a rational, moral, and social being." --Thomas Jefferson to A. Coray, 1823. ME 15:489

"I think an editor should be independent, that is, of personal influence, and not be moved from his opinions on the mere authority of any individual. But, with respect to the general opinion of the political section with which he habitually accords, his duty seems very like that of a member of Congress. Some of these indeed think that independence requires them to follow always their own opinion, without respect for that of others. This has never been my opinion, nor my practice, when I have been of that or any other body. Differing on a particular question from those whom I knew to be of the same political principles with myself, and with whom I generally thought and acted, a consciousness of the fallibility of the human mind, and of my own in particular, with a respect for the accumulated judgment of my friends, has induced me to suspect erroneous impressions in myself, to suppose my own opinion wrong, and to act with them on theirs." --Thomas Jefferson to William Duane, 1811. ME 13:49

"To demand the censors of public measures to be given up for punishment is to renew the demand of the wolves in the fable, that the sheep should give up their dogs as hostages of the peace and confidence established between them." --Thomas Jefferson to William Branch Giles, 1794.

"Our citizens may be deceived for awhile, and have been deceived; but as long as the presses can be protected, we may trust to them for light." --Thomas Jefferson to Archibald Stuart. 1799.

"I am persuaded that the good sense of the people will always be found to be the best army. They may be led astray for a moment, but will soon correct themselves. The people are the only censors of their governors, and even their errors will tend to keep these to the true principles of their institution. To punish these errors too severely would be to suppress the only safeguard of the public liberty. The way to prevent these irregular interpositions of the people is to give them full information of their affairs through the channel of the public papers, and to contrive that those papers should penetrate the whole mass of the people." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787.

"Cherish... the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. Do not be too severe upon their errors, but reclaim them by enlightening them." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787. ME 6:58

"Considering [the] great importance to the public liberty [of the freedom of the press], and the difficulty of submitting it to very precise rules, the laws have thought it less mischievous to give greater scope to its freedom than to the restraint of it." --Thomas Jefferson to the Spanish Commissioners, 1793. ME 9:165

"It is so difficult to draw a clear line of separation between the abuse and the wholesome use of the press, that as yet we have found it better to trust the public judgment, rather than the magistrate, with the discrimination between truth and falsehood. And hitherto the public judgment has performed that office with wonderful correctness." --Thomas Jefferson to M. Pictet, 1803. ME 10:356

"[This is] a country which is afraid to read nothing, and which may be trusted with anything, so long as its reason remains unfettered by law." --Thomas Jefferson to Joseph Milligan, 1816. ME 14:463

"A declaration that the Federal Government will never restrain the presses from printing anything they please will not take away the liability of the printers for false facts printed." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1788. ME 7:98

"Printing presses shall be free except as to false facts published maliciously either to injure the reputation of another (whether followed by pecuniary damages or not) or to expose him to the punishment of the law." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes for a Constitution, 1794.

"Printing presses shall be subject to no other restraint than liableness to legal prosecution for false facts printed and published." --Thomas Jefferson: Draft of Virginia Constitution, 1783. ME 2:298, Papers 6:304

"Since truth and reason have maintained their ground against false opinions in league with false facts, the press confined to truth needs no other legal restraint. The public judgment will correct false reasonings and opinions on a full hearing of all parties, and no other definite line can be drawn between the inestimable liberty of the press and its demoralizing licentiousness. If there be still improprieties which this rule would not restrain, its supplement must be sought in the censorship of public opinion." --Thomas Jefferson: 2nd Inaugural Address, 1805. ME 3:381


49 posted on 07/13/2012 12:53:45 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Nachum

What a Jackass!


50 posted on 07/13/2012 12:54:55 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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