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Miami seeks $40 million in union concessions - “financial urgency” needed to balance budget
Miami Herald ^ | July 13, 2012 | KATHLEEN McGRORY

Posted on 07/14/2012 3:34:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Miami city administrators say they can balance the city’s $485 million operating budget without raising taxes, but it involves winning $40 million in union concessions.

That may be easier said than done. Negotiations with the police union are stalling, Fraternal Order of Police President Armando Aguilar said.

“I didn’t close the door, but I told them my ultimatum: I’m not willing to give up what we gave last year, and not what they want this year,” Aguilar said.

Mayor Tomás Regalado said the city will likely have to declare financial urgency, a provision in state law that allows municipal leaders to unilaterally change employee contracts.

“It seems that they don’t have the appetite to even consider the concessions,” Regalado said. “That leaves no choice for us.”

Either way, the proposed budget is far more complete than it was last July, when staffers were still scrambling to crunch the numbers. Budget director Danny Alfonso plans to have this year’s proposal ready for city commissioners early next week, he said Friday.

The financial picture is brighter than a year ago. Revenues are up, thanks to an increase in property tax values and the number of people seeking building permits and other services from the city. The $485 million proposed budget represents a $2 million increase over last year.

Regalado won’t be recommending an increase in the overall tax rate.

Should the commission accept his proposal, the new rate would be $8.47 for every $1,000 of taxable assessed property value, down from $8.50 last year. The average homeowner would see a savings of $3.54.

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: benefits; municipalbudgets; publicemployees; union

1 posted on 07/14/2012 3:35:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What does this say about public employees when the city government thinks there may be $40 MILLION in concessions that they may be able to give up? Even if they determine it is only $10 million, WHAT DOES THIS SAY?

Places that operate like this will always be left behind by places where the people are more economically savvy; these situations arise mostly in areas where the “consumers” of the services aren’t the ones PAYING FOR THEM (welfare reservations, illegal aliens bridgeheads into the country, etc.).


2 posted on 07/14/2012 3:45:10 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If the original problem doesn’t lie with public unions why does the solution always lie with public unions?


3 posted on 07/14/2012 3:45:56 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Here’s why it’ a union problem....

Still, city officials must fill a $60 million budget hole, a gap that exists because many of last year’s union concessions, such as the moratorium on new police cars, expired after one year. The city must also contribute more to its pension funds this year to offset a loss in revenue from investments.


4 posted on 07/14/2012 4:03:23 AM PDT by Popman (When you elect a clown: expect a circus...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
They are facing that in nearly every American city.

In St Louis the Firefighter Disability payments alone consume half the firefighting budget. Firefighters on full disability are operating tree trimming businesses, pouring concrete, playing golf, playing softball, .... And yet the firefighter union is fighting the city on it tooth and nail to keep this corruption going.

Their image as heroes has turned to full tarnish. They are parasites who would rather see their host city go belly up rather than miss a meal. Once these parasites got a hold, they won't let go.

5 posted on 07/14/2012 4:56:54 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

“...the city will likely have to declare financial urgency...”

That sure speaks volumes about cities’ lib-dem-run admins and public unions’ demands.


6 posted on 07/14/2012 5:07:34 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Parasites? Wow, you have completely lumped every firefighter in this category in one sentence! You are amazing (and ill informed.)

Thank you for that gem! Every organization has a few bad apples. But it seams to me that you are buying the MSM's attack on all the unions.

Yea, it's the unions fault this country is in the toilet. Good grief.

7 posted on 07/14/2012 5:26:29 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: 1010RD

To serve and to protect... the union

A priviledge, not a right, except for us...


8 posted on 07/14/2012 5:27:51 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Sorry, I meant to address this to Cincinatus’ Wife


9 posted on 07/14/2012 5:28:28 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: Uncle Chip
And it looks like Obama and his socialist ilk are preparing to ease their conversion onto the welfare roles.

There was a report last night on "Special Edition" on how Obama (through HHS) is planning to, again, circumvent Congress and waive the "work requirement" of the Welfare Reform Bill that was passed and signed during Clinton's adm. Under the "work or prepare to work" heart of that bill, welfare dropped in half and child poverty dramatically dropped.

Now Obama wants money paid out with no requirement to seek work.

Call your congressman and senators.

10 posted on 07/14/2012 5:32:25 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

I have “lumped” no one anywhere on this thread.


11 posted on 07/14/2012 5:33:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
Actually my post was directed to Uncle Chip. Double sorry!

I am the spouse of “NoKoolAidforMe” and this is my first time posting on this great website.

I usually agree with what I read daily, but this statement just dumbfounds me.......

12 posted on 07/14/2012 5:37:58 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe; Uncle Chip

“Thank you for that gem! Every organization has a few bad apples. But it seams to me that you are buying the MSM’s attack on all the unions.

Yea, it’s the unions fault this country is in the toilet. Good grief.
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I look at unions like a citizen looks at someone with the ebola virus. They are parasites, I have to agree with Freeper UC, but a “few bad apples”? The union members are not holding their leadership accountable. That’s my problem. I respect firemen and LEO’s but do NOT hold the public taxpayer hostage because your salary and pension dictates it.


13 posted on 07/14/2012 5:38:44 AM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
Miami has been called the asshole of florida sense the 60's among natives of Florida

Who cares about Miami

14 posted on 07/14/2012 5:39:40 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: 1010RD
If the original problem doesn’t lie with public unions why does the solution always lie with public unions?

Because cities were stupid enough to practically give the unions all the wanted when times were good. Now that it's time to pay the piper pay and benefits for these same employees sometimes reach 80%-90% of a municipality's budget.

Not many other places to cut.

15 posted on 07/14/2012 5:44:43 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
"But it seams to me that you are buying the MSM's attack on all the unions."

Perpetual unions are a bane on society in general; public unions are an abomination to limited government and a millstone around the neck of the taxpayer.

I do not need the "MSM's" template to figure out the strain organized labor has produced upon civilization, especially public management.
16 posted on 07/14/2012 5:48:48 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
I think Uncle Chip was speaking specifically about the St. Louis FF union, the corruption within it, and the union's bullheaded refusal to agree to any concession... they would rather the city fall than lose their grip on the taxpayer teat.

I, on the other hand, see this as endemic to all unions. Very, very few of the union leaders care about how they get their $$ and who they hurt in the process. And unfortunately the firefighters (police officers, bus drivers, hospital service workers, etc.) have learned from their leaders and now the rot is invading the rank and file, by those who are using the "disability" retirement fraudulently.

17 posted on 07/14/2012 5:55:48 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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To: max americana

There is merit to your statement. I just feel that it is totally unjust to make blanket statements lumping everyone in a group or organization together because of a few dirt bags (parasites), is all.

The cities do not have the legal right to breach the contract mid-way because of financial difficulties. Difficulties, I might add, are generally due to fiscal malfeasance. These political “leaders” are distracting the citizenry with this tactic, and unfortunately, it is working.


18 posted on 07/14/2012 5:55:57 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Good shot but slightly off target.

There are several problems with public unions but IMHO they boil down to politics. The public union bosses provide the politician, local, state and national, two things the politician lusts after - money and manpower.

The money comes from the dues collected which first comes from the tax payer. This, again IMHO, causes no problems if the money moves between the political parties. But, as it has been reported many times it goes to and stays in one party - Democrat.

Manpower comes in two forms. Actual man-hours spent supporting a candidate. Again, I have no problem if the support moves between parties but it don't. The second form of manpower is block voting. While the ballot is supposed to be secret who out there wants to bet the farm on it?

With the power that public union officials wield I don't think there is a simple solution. Having said that I think the recent Supreme Court decision that allows corporations to contribute to political campaigns could be an excellent counter balance to the corrupting political power currently exercised by public unions.

19 posted on 07/14/2012 6:06:49 AM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL and BOHICA)
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To: rollo tomasi

“Perpetual unions are a bane on society in general”

Look around you, America has a middle class largely due to the “unions.”

I do agree that some (NOT ALL) are greedy as hell.

I agree that some (NOT ALL) are only out for themselves.

This problem goes deeper than your anti union stance. This is a systematic approach to destroy the unions thus destroying a very large percentage of the “middle Class” of this country.

Our “leaders” want a 2-class system.


20 posted on 07/14/2012 6:08:36 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
I just feel that it is totally unjust to make blanket statements lumping everyone in a group or organization together because of a few dirt bags (parasites), is all.

Then it is your (husband's) duty to rid his union of the dirt bags. They are the cause of the mess. They are sleeping in the den with you; you all end up with fleas because of them. Do something about it.

Difficulties, I might add, are generally due to fiscal malfeasance.

Exactly! Fraudulently claiming disability, demanding that the taxpayers pay all of their retirement contributions, demanding that the taxpayer pay all (or the great majority of) their health insurance.

Sorry; not much sympathy from me. I've had two raises (<3% each) in 4 years, my boss cut their contribution to my retirement to less than 20% of the 10% I contribute, and my health insurance contribution nearly doubled. I'm lucky to still have a job.

Oh, and my property taxes have gone up every one of those four years to pay for the police, fire, city and county unions' contract demands.

Clean up your unions, get rid of the crooks in leadership, and get rid of the cheaters in the rank and file, and make some concessions yourselves, and maybe then I will believe that you're not parasites. Until then, I remain unconvinced.

21 posted on 07/14/2012 6:12:18 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
it's the unions fault this country is in the toilet.

If the union label fits, wear it!!!

22 posted on 07/14/2012 6:12:51 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I believe it was an executive order so he bypassed Congress on this one.


23 posted on 07/14/2012 6:15:24 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
BTW, you need to get your own screen name. "KoolAidForMe" may be available.

just sayin'

24 posted on 07/14/2012 6:15:54 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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To: onemiddleamerican

Thanks, I’ll look into it.


25 posted on 07/14/2012 6:23:33 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
"Look around you, America has a middle class largely due to the “unions.”

I am looking around me and seeing the middle class in non-union jobs because I currently reside in a right to work State. What I see in general is an artificially inflated economy partially due to an wage imbalance fueled by organized labor. The 20th century bill is coming due, sorry but that is the nature of the beast you are defending.

Look at the history of labor unions since the colonial times, how they were admonished by people who actually built this Country up from actual risk/reward capital, and then spare me your mythical middle-class union hero worship. You are operating out of emotion not reason because historically and empirically you are flat out wrong.
26 posted on 07/14/2012 6:23:55 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

“But it seams to me that you are buying the MSM’s attack on all the unions.”....NOT all the unions. PUBLIC UNIONS. Even FDR said public unions are not sustainable, but Kennedy, as one of his generally stupid moves, OK’d them. Where was the paying public at the negotiating table? Oh, that’s right, the politician, who was looking for votes from the public union. What could go wrong with that? EXACTLY WHAT YOU SEE, NOW.


27 posted on 07/14/2012 6:35:50 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

America has a middle class largely due to the “unions.”...America has an organized crime class (which does a hell of a lot better than you and me) largely due to unions.


28 posted on 07/14/2012 6:39:50 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Here is the deal, the Dem hacks are putting up a good show for their union buddies but in the end when the bankruptcy goes thru they are going to get a haircut, no ifs ands or buts about it.


29 posted on 07/14/2012 6:41:32 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Those contracts were made by liberal politicians and union goons at the table. Votes were promised for bennies.No where was the citizen represented. Simply a matter of the interests of the few (politicians) and the union reps. The citizens got sold out, and continue to do so, every where there are public employee unions.


30 posted on 07/14/2012 6:53:16 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

“Look around you, America has a middle class largely due to the “unions.””

No. We have a middle class because we are a free people, free to engage in commerce with each other. To the extent the middle class is under threat it is because of government - and there is no greater tax amplifier than public sector unions.

Unions are under assault because they are contrary to freedom. That every state is not a “right to work” state is an unconstitutional assault on freedom.

Should someone freely decide to associate themselves without coercion with others and call it a “union”, I’ve got no comment.

Unions are nearly universally an assault on freedom and the constitution - and will be destroyed through the bankruptcy process - one city at a time.

Other than that, I’m “pro-union”.


31 posted on 07/14/2012 7:04:58 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: rollo tomasi

“and then spare me your mythical middle-class union hero worship”

Nothing “mythical” about this statement of middle class in my state.

There is no “hero worship” in any of my posts.

And I submit to you that you are posting out of emotion and you are starting to attack me and my statements.

We are getting off topic here. I simply stated that not all union members are “parasites.”

There are many problems with unions, and I understand what everyone is saying. I happen to agree more (than less) of what I am reading, however, I can only post what I know about me, my family, my experiences, etc, etc.

If the “unions” collapse tomorrow, it would not affect me (or my finances) one bit.

I just hate it when blanket statements are posted and everyone jumps on the wagon to vilify a group or organization.


32 posted on 07/14/2012 7:10:44 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: Uncle Chip

All public employee unions must be eliminated to stop this financial rape of available finances. The day is long past when unions were necessary to level the economic playing field. Today public unions serve to afford power and money for a few social thugs with their lemmings.


33 posted on 07/14/2012 8:32:00 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

50% is way more than “a few”, my friend. It’s even worse in IL. The firefighters and cops double dipping on pensions is literally bankrupting the entire State.

And the only disability most of them are suffering is morbid obesity. Yes, there are a very, very few who are genuinely disabled. But most of them are nebulous back and soft tissue injuries which can never be objectively diagnosed.

It’s a scam.


34 posted on 07/14/2012 8:45:33 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is, it is the only answer.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe


Give me a percentage of organized labor in the United States workforce each decade since 1790. You say the unions built the middle-class/prop that up, prove that premise with numbers.

Next, give me a cost per employee analysis between non-union businesses to union ones. Give me a projection of future earnings plus obligations while correlating why union shops DO NOT suppress the potential means of employing more individuals that would increase supply.

Next, give me a breakdown of obligations from taxpaying citizens in terms of pension funding along with other benefits in which public unions demand. Also, what are the sensible reasons why Active Duty members cannot organize. Why should other State/Federal workers be allowed to organize and military denied that "right" (Emphasis on quotations)? What are the positives to the taxpayers that fund public servants who then are allowed to organize while demanding the said taxpayers to subsidize their lives with the threats of blackmails and strikes? How is that good government?

Please do not give me anymore projections, makes you look childish.
35 posted on 07/14/2012 8:54:28 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: noinfringers2
You got that right. Did you realize that 70% of all firefighters are volunteer. They get paid nothing but do a great job putting out fires and cost the taxpayer nothing.

In order to pay for public union pensions cities are now eliminating fire and police and other services altogether and putting the onus on the backs of the residents -- all so they can continue to make outrageous retirement payments. That has to stop.

Orange County California firefighters are paid $150,000/yr and they seldom leave the station except to rescue the occasional cat from a drain. The only entity doing well in California is CALPERS -- the public employee retirement system. I wonder why???

36 posted on 07/14/2012 8:55:35 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The prevailing mindset in many public unions is on display when they are asked to delay a raise in order to prevent the layoffs of their fellow union members. Too often their reply has been, “Too bad for them but screw ‘em and give us our raise.”


37 posted on 07/14/2012 9:49:53 AM PDT by JPG (Whatever semantics are used, it is still a TAX.)
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