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Where Did Syria’s Chemical Weapons Come From?
Brietbart Big Peace ^ | July 14, 2012 | Frank Salvato

Posted on 07/14/2012 5:59:02 AM PDT by SumProVita

As the news stories mount regarding Syrian President Bashar al Assad’s decision to move his chemical weapons stockpile from storage to areas closer to rebel locations, there is one thing the mainstream media is not commenting on: How Syria acquired what is reported to be one of the world’s largest arsenals of bio-chemical WMD? More to the point, what they are not reporting is this: From where did the Assad regime acquire their bio-chemical WMD?

In 2006, former Iraqi general, Georges Sada, who served under Saddam Hussein before he defected, wrote a comprehensive book detailing how the Iraqi Revolutionary Guard moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria, before the US-led action to eliminate Saddam Hussein’s WMD threat, by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.

As reported in the New York Sun on January 26, 2006:

“‘There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands,’ Mr. Sada said. ‘I am confident they were taken over.’”

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; syria; war
Not much attention is being paid to this. I wonder why?
1 posted on 07/14/2012 5:59:06 AM PDT by SumProVita
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Paging Peter “Bush Derangement Syndrome” Boyles.


2 posted on 07/14/2012 6:00:45 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: SumProVita

Not much attention is being paid to this. I wonder why?

No one wants to support George Bush. No one wants to speak against the Muslim Barbarians.


3 posted on 07/14/2012 6:02:11 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: SumProVita

Because it doesn’t fit the MSM’s big lie.


4 posted on 07/14/2012 6:02:37 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Syria has had a chemical weapons program for many years, which I did not know until yesterday, thanks to a very astute Freeper. Appears they had help from Russia. Imagine that.


5 posted on 07/14/2012 6:04:07 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: SumProVita

Lol, we all were tracking the Iraqi transfer of weapons to Syria. What WMD? Oh you mean THOSE WMD.


6 posted on 07/14/2012 6:05:26 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: ilovesarah2012

its Saddam’s Sryia had no need for a program


7 posted on 07/14/2012 6:06:21 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: SumProVita
When this story first broke, I had my “uh huh” moment! They found Saddam’s WMD stash...imagine that!
8 posted on 07/14/2012 6:11:13 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: SumProVita

Syria has had an extensive chemical weapons program long before events in Iraq. The Israelis were reporting on the Syrian chemical weapons long before 2003.


9 posted on 07/14/2012 6:13:08 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: scooby321

Syria’s chemical weapons program began in the mid 1970s. According to Maj.-Gen. (res.) Yehoshua Saguy, who served as head of Military Intelligence from 1979 to 1983, Egypt assisted the Syrians in starting the program.

“It was after the Yom Kippur War which they ultimately lost, and there were rumors about Israel’s purported nuclear capability,” Saguy recalled this week. “It was a totalitarian regime so they just diverted funds, purchased some basic capabilities from Egypt and later, with the help of experts from the former Soviet Union, began to build their own independent infrastructure.”

It took only a few years for the program to take off, and in 1982 the world witnessed what a dictator with chemical weapons was capable of doing. Hafez Assad ordered his military to quell Muslim Brotherhood protests in Hama. In addition to heavy shelling, the forces also used poisonous gas to kill the protesters.

At a later stage and as a cover, the Syrians established a civilian research facility near Damascus – called the Scientific Studies and Research Center – to purchase the dual-use technologies it needed for the production of its various chemical weapons: Sarin and VX nerve agents as well as mustard gas.

http://www.jpost.com/Features/FrontLines/Article.aspx?id=273925


10 posted on 07/14/2012 6:13:12 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: SumProVita

For goodness’ sake, Saddam shipped them to Syria so our troops wouldn’t find em when they took on Iraq.

And then, of course, all our wonderful and patriotic media cheerleaders chimed in with, “Okay, so where are the WMDs?”

Like they didn’t know.


11 posted on 07/14/2012 6:20:48 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: SumProVita

In the first couple of days of the Iraq invasion, our troops fired on a convoy of Russian vehicles heading for Syria and that sparked off an international objection from Russia that we fired on “diplomats”, who just happened to be Spetznaz troops. We allowed the convoy to proceed and nothing more was said. Not much attention? It was Bush’s fault for firing on defenseless diplomats.


12 posted on 07/14/2012 6:21:38 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: SumProVita
The big question is, just how did Ted Kennedy know before the Iraq War, the WMD’s wouldn't be found in Iraq?
13 posted on 07/14/2012 6:21:50 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: SumProVita

Because Bush hates black people.

Whoops, wrong meme. Bush lied, people died.

Dammit. Once more, with feeling: THERE ARE NO WMDS IN IRAQ OR SYRIA.

Anybody who suggests otherwise is looking for a pretext to invade Syria.


14 posted on 07/14/2012 6:31:20 AM PDT by txhurl (Scott Walker is my President.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

You didn’t think those Russian Marines were just sent to Syria to direct traffic, did you?

Next stop for those pesky nondeclared WMD - offloading to Iranian air or sea transport for Hezbollah/IRG shipment to Iranian safekeeping


15 posted on 07/14/2012 6:31:32 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: ilovesarah2012
It should not be difficult for anyone to see how the dems and liberals along with MSM here are often in alliance with the russians, muslims and most other anti-American factions.

Apparently they have no prohibitions to the dark philosophies of “the end justifies the means and the enenmy of my enemy is my friend” and how extra nice for a sizable chunk of US voters stupidly IDing with dems in-spite of this obvious anti-American axis.

16 posted on 07/14/2012 6:39:04 AM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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speak up GWB...

are these the missing WMD? just bet they are and once again the media won’t report the truth...

WAKE UP AMERICANS...


17 posted on 07/14/2012 6:40:18 AM PDT by haircutter
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Nasser’s Egyptian troops in Yemen battled Saudi Arabian troops and their Yemeni clients by using chemical warfare, probably acquired from the USSR, or possibly developed or redeveloped from WWI and WWII German work. The technology has been passed around by a lot of people — to Iraq, Iran, Syria, and other despotates in the ME. Thanks SumProVita.


18 posted on 07/14/2012 6:42:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SumProVita
Where Did Syria’s Chemical Weapons Come From?

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19 posted on 07/14/2012 6:45:42 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: SumProVita

“...anti-war Democrats and Progressives here in the United States will have been complicit in what is tantamount to genocide...”

Money line.


22 posted on 07/14/2012 6:54:34 AM PDT by moovova (Ladies & Gentlemen...Pandora has left the box.)
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To: Jack Hammer
Jack, they didn't know. They are liberals. Facts that don't fit their narrative are discarded.

They also don't know that the president is a closet moslem, communist, dog eater. But that doesn't fit the narrative either.

23 posted on 07/14/2012 6:55:44 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: SumProVita

I already suspected this.


24 posted on 07/14/2012 6:57:13 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Election 2012- Epic Fail candidate vs Epic Fail President!)
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To: SumProVita

Because Saddam and Assad were not allies (Syria fought against him in 1990), the Bush government seemed to less than sure that this supposed transfer ever happened and even if it did, Iraqi Sarin for example degraded to the point of ineffectiveness within a matter of months.

Whatever is left of Saddam era agents are probably still toxic, but not effective as weapons.

Flame away gentlemen, but someone needed to bring this thread back to earth.


25 posted on 07/14/2012 6:58:16 AM PDT by Stolly
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To: ilovesarah2012

So damn insane just hid them there, we knew that 10 years ago.


26 posted on 07/14/2012 7:06:24 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: SumProVita
IIRC, there were satellite photos taken just before the Gulf War operations commenced showing convoys of trucks moving into, I believe, the Baca(?) valley and Syria from Iraq. I saw the photos here on FR and, of course, no MSM comment then either.

The swine.

27 posted on 07/14/2012 7:11:24 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (I'm for Churchill in 1940!)
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To: SumProVita

This might be the single stupidest article or blog post I’ve ever seen - maybe even worse than the “illegal immigrants are bringing bubonic plague to the US!” piece from coachisright.

Thankfully many other replies have pointed out that Syria has had a gigantic chem/bio program extending back to the early 70s, but what I cannot fathom is how someone writes something like this and places it on the Internet for other people to see without even doing 30 seconds of research (such as Googling “Syria chemical weapons history”) so they don’t write something embarrassing.


28 posted on 07/14/2012 7:32:51 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: SumProVita

I think everybody’s way behind the curve on this one.

It doesn’t matter how much of Syria’s stockpile came from Iraq, and how much is homegrown. At some point, if there’s a catastrophe involving use of those weapons, either on Syrian rebels or Isreali’s or Turks or whatever, the MSM will conveniently forget that they said the weapons of mass destruction didn’t exist, and blame Bush for the tragedy, since what they’ll call his reckless policies in Iraq caused those weapons to end up in the irresponsible hands of Assad.


29 posted on 07/14/2012 7:33:46 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: Stolly

I’ve had multiple classes in agGraduate school program taught by various Bush administration officials, and people highly placed in US military intelligence, from Operation Iraqi Freedom 2003-2004 time period.

When the subject of Iraqi chemical weapons is discussed in class, not a one has even mentioned, much less claimed, that Iraq had a large program and stockpile and moved it to Syria. The discussion has ALWAYS been about why we thought Iraq had an active CW and BW program and stockpile, but it turns out that they didn’t (there were of course scattered, very old chemical shells, etc. left over from the pre-1991 Iraqi programs).

Somehow I think they are more likely to be right than assorted message board posters who refuse to admit they were ever wrong about something.


30 posted on 07/14/2012 7:40:55 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Don't worry, Peter will never admit that Bush did any thing right.
His hatred of the Bush family distorts all of his thoughts about Bush 41 and Bush 43. I think it goes back to the Silverado Saving bust. Neil Bush was on the board of directors and Boyles seemed to blame him for the entire mess.

Most of the time, Pete is probably the best local talk show host in the country, but when it comes to the Bush Family, FDR and Unions, he is the as closed minded as Lil Barry.

31 posted on 07/14/2012 7:53:20 AM PDT by Tupelo (TeaPartier ..... but no longer a Republican)
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To: Strategerist

It is probable that such weapons did not move from Iraq to Syria...but not impossible. What about all the noise regarding the caravan heading to the Bekaa Valley before Iraq was invaded?


32 posted on 07/14/2012 8:27:37 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Bushbacker1

In 2005 I flew along the route that Saddam used to transport his WMD into Syria. We were careful not to cross over the border.


33 posted on 07/14/2012 8:39:57 AM PDT by jesseam (eliev)
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To: SumProVita
Amen on this.

I've been championing Sada's eye-witness reporting on these events during the lead up to the start of "shock and awe."

When will the facts in Sada's tale come to enough people to come to realize what actually happened to Saddam's WMD?

34 posted on 07/14/2012 8:52:37 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: SumProVita

BUT BUT!!!

Bush lied!!!! right?

(didn’t he?.....whaaaaaaa)


35 posted on 07/14/2012 9:12:59 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: jesseam

First, thank you for your service! Second, what part of Montana?


36 posted on 07/14/2012 9:34:09 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: SumProVita

I’ll take “Iraq, with Spetsnaz assistance” for $500, SumProVita.


37 posted on 07/14/2012 9:49:33 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

You read my mind.


38 posted on 07/14/2012 10:16:53 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: SumProVita

Syria had their own chemical weapons program, in addition to whatever they got from Saddam. That being said, there were massive convoys between Iraq and Syria for months before the 2nd Gulf war, while France delayed us from action. There were undoubtedly large amounts of chemical weapons that were moved form Iraq to Syria, during that time.

The frustrating thing is that MSM meme was there were no WMD in Iraq and the Bush administration was totally passive in accepting that meme despite all evidence to the contrary. Not only did they never make the case for the transfer in the months leading up to the war, but they also just accepted the media judgement that the weapons they did find never met the ‘threshold’. There were several finds of caches of chemical weapons but they were always characterized as too small or too old to matter. There were numerous finds of missile technology that Iraq was prohibited from having after the 1st Gulf war, but the media reaction was always ‘well that just missile technology, its not WMD’. There were even some biological weapons labs that were found, but the reaction was ‘well maybe they were working on civilian medical projects’.

GWB made many mistakes, but maybe his greatest mistake that we are still living with is he spent his second term totally passive in terms of letting the media paint him and his policies (and by extensive all conservatives) as inept and wrong. To a large extent, that four year silence on the part of GWB gave us the disastrous electoral outcome of 2008.


39 posted on 07/14/2012 10:56:44 AM PDT by CaptainMorgantown
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To: Bushbacker1

Lived in Helena since 1971. Thanks


40 posted on 07/14/2012 11:52:06 AM PDT by jesseam (eliev)
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To: CaptainMorgantown
I have an operative theory that whatever one hears in the open media is what the powers that be want us to hear, (and by extension, the enemy, who also gets his news from the same sources). I wonder if the lack of evidence of wmd’s as presented by our government was not intentional, starting with the fact that if we admitted we found them,WE would be responsible for stewardship of the munitions. They would have become a major target of the jihadis, the wmd’s would have to have been guarded 24/7 and then comes the problem of disposal.

When we wanted to dispose of the chemical weapons at Dugway, we had to build a special incineration facility that cost some hundred million dollars. If we didn't do the same in Iraq, I guarantee that before all sorts of shysters would be coming out of the woodwork and suing the U.S. in international courts every time somebody's goat got sick.

On the other hand, given that Syria already had an extensive wmd stockpile under heavy military security, I can see some back channel communications to Sadam saying that we'll let you you move your munitions to Syria or you can keep them in your inventory and if you attempt to use them on our troops prepare for us to use tactical nukes back on you.

Just some speculation on my part.

41 posted on 07/14/2012 2:25:24 PM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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To: Stolly

I agree with you, and I think it is a pity people are not more cool-headed, and looking at the real historical record.


42 posted on 07/15/2012 6:11:42 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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