Skip to comments.Where Did Syria’s Chemical Weapons Come From?
Posted on 07/14/2012 5:59:02 AM PDT by SumProVita
As the news stories mount regarding Syrian President Bashar al Assads decision to move his chemical weapons stockpile from storage to areas closer to rebel locations, there is one thing the mainstream media is not commenting on: How Syria acquired what is reported to be one of the worlds largest arsenals of bio-chemical WMD? More to the point, what they are not reporting is this: From where did the Assad regime acquire their bio-chemical WMD?
In 2006, former Iraqi general, Georges Sada, who served under Saddam Hussein before he defected, wrote a comprehensive book detailing how the Iraqi Revolutionary Guard moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria, before the US-led action to eliminate Saddam Husseins WMD threat, by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.
As reported in the New York Sun on January 26, 2006:
There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands, Mr. Sada said. I am confident they were taken over.
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Paging Peter “Bush Derangement Syndrome” Boyles.
Not much attention is being paid to this. I wonder why?
No one wants to support George Bush. No one wants to speak against the Muslim Barbarians.
Because it doesn’t fit the MSM’s big lie.
Syria has had a chemical weapons program for many years, which I did not know until yesterday, thanks to a very astute Freeper. Appears they had help from Russia. Imagine that.
Lol, we all were tracking the Iraqi transfer of weapons to Syria. What WMD? Oh you mean THOSE WMD.
its Saddam’s Sryia had no need for a program
Syria has had an extensive chemical weapons program long before events in Iraq. The Israelis were reporting on the Syrian chemical weapons long before 2003.
Syrias chemical weapons program began in the mid 1970s. According to Maj.-Gen. (res.) Yehoshua Saguy, who served as head of Military Intelligence from 1979 to 1983, Egypt assisted the Syrians in starting the program.
It was after the Yom Kippur War which they ultimately lost, and there were rumors about Israels purported nuclear capability, Saguy recalled this week. It was a totalitarian regime so they just diverted funds, purchased some basic capabilities from Egypt and later, with the help of experts from the former Soviet Union, began to build their own independent infrastructure.
It took only a few years for the program to take off, and in 1982 the world witnessed what a dictator with chemical weapons was capable of doing. Hafez Assad ordered his military to quell Muslim Brotherhood protests in Hama. In addition to heavy shelling, the forces also used poisonous gas to kill the protesters.
At a later stage and as a cover, the Syrians established a civilian research facility near Damascus called the Scientific Studies and Research Center to purchase the dual-use technologies it needed for the production of its various chemical weapons: Sarin and VX nerve agents as well as mustard gas.
For goodness’ sake, Saddam shipped them to Syria so our troops wouldn’t find em when they took on Iraq.
And then, of course, all our wonderful and patriotic media cheerleaders chimed in with, “Okay, so where are the WMDs?”
Like they didn’t know.
In the first couple of days of the Iraq invasion, our troops fired on a convoy of Russian vehicles heading for Syria and that sparked off an international objection from Russia that we fired on “diplomats”, who just happened to be Spetznaz troops. We allowed the convoy to proceed and nothing more was said. Not much attention? It was Bush’s fault for firing on defenseless diplomats.
Because Bush hates black people.
Whoops, wrong meme. Bush lied, people died.
Dammit. Once more, with feeling: THERE ARE NO WMDS IN IRAQ OR SYRIA.
Anybody who suggests otherwise is looking for a pretext to invade Syria.
You didn’t think those Russian Marines were just sent to Syria to direct traffic, did you?
Next stop for those pesky nondeclared WMD - offloading to Iranian air or sea transport for Hezbollah/IRG shipment to Iranian safekeeping
Apparently they have no prohibitions to the dark philosophies of “the end justifies the means and the enenmy of my enemy is my friend” and how extra nice for a sizable chunk of US voters stupidly IDing with dems in-spite of this obvious anti-American axis.
speak up GWB...
are these the missing WMD? just bet they are and once again the media won’t report the truth...
WAKE UP AMERICANS...
Nasser’s Egyptian troops in Yemen battled Saudi Arabian troops and their Yemeni clients by using chemical warfare, probably acquired from the USSR, or possibly developed or redeveloped from WWI and WWII German work. The technology has been passed around by a lot of people — to Iraq, Iran, Syria, and other despotates in the ME. Thanks SumProVita.
Yes. As I said yesterday, I was discussing Syria’s SCUD’s and chemical weapons on the internet back in 1997. Had stuff out there in 1999.
Chemical weapons and missiles are nothing new in Syria. Nor from recent events. Not by a long shot.
That being said it is possible some weapons went there. Many of Saddam’s SCUD’s were modified by Gerald Bull. Don’t know about Syria in that regard.
“...anti-war Democrats and Progressives here in the United States will have been complicit in what is tantamount to genocide...
They also don't know that the president is a closet moslem, communist, dog eater. But that doesn't fit the narrative either.
I already suspected this.
Because Saddam and Assad were not allies (Syria fought against him in 1990), the Bush government seemed to less than sure that this supposed transfer ever happened and even if it did, Iraqi Sarin for example degraded to the point of ineffectiveness within a matter of months.
Whatever is left of Saddam era agents are probably still toxic, but not effective as weapons.
Flame away gentlemen, but someone needed to bring this thread back to earth.
So damn insane just hid them there, we knew that 10 years ago.
This might be the single stupidest article or blog post I’ve ever seen - maybe even worse than the “illegal immigrants are bringing bubonic plague to the US!” piece from coachisright.
Thankfully many other replies have pointed out that Syria has had a gigantic chem/bio program extending back to the early 70s, but what I cannot fathom is how someone writes something like this and places it on the Internet for other people to see without even doing 30 seconds of research (such as Googling “Syria chemical weapons history”) so they don’t write something embarrassing.
I think everybody’s way behind the curve on this one.
It doesn’t matter how much of Syria’s stockpile came from Iraq, and how much is homegrown. At some point, if there’s a catastrophe involving use of those weapons, either on Syrian rebels or Isreali’s or Turks or whatever, the MSM will conveniently forget that they said the weapons of mass destruction didn’t exist, and blame Bush for the tragedy, since what they’ll call his reckless policies in Iraq caused those weapons to end up in the irresponsible hands of Assad.
I’ve had multiple classes in agGraduate school program taught by various Bush administration officials, and people highly placed in US military intelligence, from Operation Iraqi Freedom 2003-2004 time period.
When the subject of Iraqi chemical weapons is discussed in class, not a one has even mentioned, much less claimed, that Iraq had a large program and stockpile and moved it to Syria. The discussion has ALWAYS been about why we thought Iraq had an active CW and BW program and stockpile, but it turns out that they didn’t (there were of course scattered, very old chemical shells, etc. left over from the pre-1991 Iraqi programs).
Somehow I think they are more likely to be right than assorted message board posters who refuse to admit they were ever wrong about something.
Most of the time, Pete is probably the best local talk show host in the country, but when it comes to the Bush Family, FDR and Unions, he is the as closed minded as Lil Barry.
It is probable that such weapons did not move from Iraq to Syria...but not impossible. What about all the noise regarding the caravan heading to the Bekaa Valley before Iraq was invaded?
In 2005 I flew along the route that Saddam used to transport his WMD into Syria. We were careful not to cross over the border.
I've been championing Sada's eye-witness reporting on these events during the lead up to the start of "shock and awe."
When will the facts in Sada's tale come to enough people to come to realize what actually happened to Saddam's WMD?
Bush lied!!!! right?
First, thank you for your service! Second, what part of Montana?
I’ll take “Iraq, with Spetsnaz assistance” for $500, SumProVita.
You read my mind.
Syria had their own chemical weapons program, in addition to whatever they got from Saddam. That being said, there were massive convoys between Iraq and Syria for months before the 2nd Gulf war, while France delayed us from action. There were undoubtedly large amounts of chemical weapons that were moved form Iraq to Syria, during that time.
The frustrating thing is that MSM meme was there were no WMD in Iraq and the Bush administration was totally passive in accepting that meme despite all evidence to the contrary. Not only did they never make the case for the transfer in the months leading up to the war, but they also just accepted the media judgement that the weapons they did find never met the ‘threshold’. There were several finds of caches of chemical weapons but they were always characterized as too small or too old to matter. There were numerous finds of missile technology that Iraq was prohibited from having after the 1st Gulf war, but the media reaction was always ‘well that just missile technology, its not WMD’. There were even some biological weapons labs that were found, but the reaction was ‘well maybe they were working on civilian medical projects’.
GWB made many mistakes, but maybe his greatest mistake that we are still living with is he spent his second term totally passive in terms of letting the media paint him and his policies (and by extensive all conservatives) as inept and wrong. To a large extent, that four year silence on the part of GWB gave us the disastrous electoral outcome of 2008.
Lived in Helena since 1971. Thanks
When we wanted to dispose of the chemical weapons at Dugway, we had to build a special incineration facility that cost some hundred million dollars. If we didn't do the same in Iraq, I guarantee that before all sorts of shysters would be coming out of the woodwork and suing the U.S. in international courts every time somebody's goat got sick.
On the other hand, given that Syria already had an extensive wmd stockpile under heavy military security, I can see some back channel communications to Sadam saying that we'll let you you move your munitions to Syria or you can keep them in your inventory and if you attempt to use them on our troops prepare for us to use tactical nukes back on you.
Just some speculation on my part.
I agree with you, and I think it is a pity people are not more cool-headed, and looking at the real historical record.